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What do you think of Sergio Ramos as a potential signing?

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Cina said:
Who cares anyway? I'm a complete arsehole when I'm playing football. I played 5v5 astro the other day and called some poor guy a little prick cause he accidentally ran into me, and proceeded to man mark him the entire game and make sure he could do nothing with the football.
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Isn't it possible that you're a complete arsehole anyway and you just let it run free on a football pitch?

It's like with people who are mean drunks: they're probably cnuts even when sober but they hide it better. I always liked emotional drunks better.
 
Varun said:
I probably shouldn't bring this up in this thread but do you really believe Ramos is a bigger cnut than Rooney or Giggsy?
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Eh, this isn't hello Magazine, what footballers do off the football pitch is irrelevant to me. Giggs was a brilliant footballer and a great sportsman. Ramos has frequently set out to hurt his fellow professional. I'm not judging him as some people think the odd 'reducer' is part of the sport. Off the field he might be into midget porn or satanism or might bring his grandmother to church every Sunday but as we are looking to sign footballers and not moral paragons I don't care. If a players off filed activity somehow damages his use a a footballer I might be interested, like excessive drinking etc, but other people's domestic issues are no real concern of mine.
 
Siorac said:
Isn't it possible that you're a complete arsehole anyway and you just let it run free on a football pitch?

It's like with people who are mean drunks: they're probably cnuts even when sober but they hide it better. I always liked emotional drunks better.
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I'd like to think I'm a nice person off the pitch. I am however ridiculously competitive and when you're in that zone you can be a different person. Loads of people behave differently on the pitch to normal every day life.
 
Cina said:
I'd like to think I'm a nice person off the pitch. I am however ridiculously competitive and when you're in that zone you can be a different person. Loads of people behave differently on the pitch to normal every day life.
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This is true. As a kid we played football almost all our waking hours. In the games at the end of the road with no refs and the like there was very little cheating, free kicks and whether the ball hit the post (jumper) or not were all settled fairly amicably. But on the weekend in the league it was totally different. There was a ref and he decided, and not always correctly. I was a forward and quite small, so got dragged and pushed and pulled all the time, and as it was in the days of tackling being encouraged and injury being a thing for girls, I got a good kicking, frequently. So I 'fought' back. I would dive anytime I felt a hand on my back, I felt justified that if I don't get 6 legit frees I had no issue getting one dodgy one. I was a pain in the arse for refs and defenders. I adored Denis Law as a kid and copied him a bit, constantly talking and claiming for stuff, but never taking my eye off the ball. I would do almost anything to win a football match, including roaring at team mates who looked liked they weren't arsed.

On topic, I've never liked Ramos, but in the wonderful hypocrisy that we allowe ourselves as football fans, he might be exactly what we need.
 
Varun said:
I did ask you to list all those that are better than him. Your list had numerous names who aren't better and even the ones that are, would not be available.

I wasn't talking about the availability of financial data. Read my post again if you need to. My point is simply about being as definitive as you are about wages and fees and what would be value and what wouldn't be.

We have digressed way too much, agreed. So let's leave it at this when it comes to the rest of the post.
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I listed players who in my opinion are better defenders than him. Like I said, you pay the kind of cash we are talking about for Ramos, and a lot of them will become available.

And, yes, let's forget about the financial stuff as we are digressing away from the topic.

Coming back to Ramos - there are certain red flags that make me wary of us going for him. The story when it broke it was that he is not happy that Madird haven't opened a contract negotiation with 2 years left on the contract. It's not that a 29+ year old, who has played most of his career at Madrid, has suddenly discovered his love for Manchester United. We are either getting played for a new contract or will get a player whose primary goal is to get paid. I really question his motivation as it looks like he'll be only coming to us because he was not able to extract his last big pay day from Madird. We already saw with di Maria this season how it can negatively affect a player and hamper their performances.

Others have already mentioned his histrionics and cuntiness, which sorry, are not signs of leadership in my book. He is a red card waiting to happen and it will be harder for him in England, where he won't be able to get away with some of stuff that he gets away with being a Madrid player in Spain.

I am not a fan of Hummels but if we are strictly looking for a ball playing defender then I would much rather have him than Ramos. He is the right age and will come with the right motivation. The injuries - well, it's Manchester United defense, that's how we roll.
 
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Cina said:
I'd like to think I'm a nice person off the pitch. I am however ridiculously competitive and when you're in that zone you can be a different person. Loads of people behave differently on the pitch to normal every day life.
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Back in school, we had this "rival" class and we played football against them quite often. They were always very heated affairs; I particularly remember one game when there was occasionally some football amid all the fighting. At one point a bunch of us ended up in some bushes kissing the shit out of each other.

Which, now that I read it back, sounds quite homoerotic in a way.
 
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crossy1686 said:
I think it's completely subjective and we won't know how 'dirty' he is until he plays a season in the Premier League. In saying that, some of his red cards for Madrid are suspect if you read that article. It also says he averages a red card for Madrid every 20 games, does anyone know what Vidic's average was? Or Keane for that matter?
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Keane wasn't all that much IMO - 7 or something like it, doubt Vidic will have more. Ramos has more than V. Jones and Barton combined.

I don't believe he should have less, for that matter but more. I think he has 180 bookings in his career, that is a booking every second game.
 
Love how some are trying to justify his thuggish antics because he is linked with us. He's always had a dirty side to his game. Not quite Pepe levels of cnut but still more so than any of our current crop of players (Even Fellaini).
 
Orton said:
Love how some are trying to justify his thuggish antics because he is linked with us. He's always had a dirty side to his game. Not quite Pepe levels of cnut but still more so than any of our current crop of players (Even Fellaini).
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I'm no Fellaini fan but I think he more of a big clumsy clown than a cnut?
 
moses said:
I'm no Fellaini fan but I think he more of a big clumsy clown than a cnut?
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The last day of the season ring any bells, or any of those uncalled for elbows that he seems to get away with more often than not?

Anyway this is the Ramos thread, and Ramos is most certainly a cnut of a player, a very good player but a cnut none the less. It's never acceptable to just punch a player square in the face in a football match. Regardless of who it's against. Spitting, punching, kicking, acting, diving... I've seen him do the lot.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
Scholes was quite reckless in a large percentage of his tackles, Rooney's had many instances of childish behaviour - recently against West Ham and Cardiff (13/14), and lets all kick out at any racist person.

I couldn't care less about their behaviour on the pitch, as long as it doesn't exceed normality. When emotions are high, you're going to act in ways that you shouldn't, its called... errr... being human; many here seem to be unaware. We need a tough nut like Ramos, especially, given he's actually a brilliant defender.
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I wouldn't call him a tough nut. There's a difference between that and being a dirty cheat that drops like a sack of shit when barely touched.
 
pocco said:
A different type. He's an embarrassment on the pitch at times. I'm surprised we're interested in a player like this, but under the current regime nothing surprises me.
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R'hllor said:
Guess i should say on field cnut,i didnt see what Rooney and Giggs done off the field,that does not mean they both arent cnuts of highest order for doing so. Its weird,maybe its just me but man there is something i cant stand in players like Ratface,Busquets etc.,maybe they are all great off field but when it comes to their action on the field,does it matter?
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moses said:
Eh, this isn't hello Magazine, what footballers do off the football pitch is irrelevant to me. Giggs was a brilliant footballer and a great sportsman. Ramos has frequently set out to hurt his fellow professional. I'm not judging him as some people think the odd 'reducer' is part of the sport. Off the field he might be into midget porn or satanism or might bring his grandmother to church every Sunday but as we are looking to sign footballers and not moral paragons I don't care. If a players off filed activity somehow damages his use a a footballer I might be interested, like excessive drinking etc, but other people's domestic issues are no real concern of mine.
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On the pitch, we haven't had our share of cnuts? Do you all want Fellaini thrown out of the club due to his stamping or elbowing? What about Rooney's elbows, want him gone too? Scholesy when he went through people late to leave a mark? How about keano when he did it numerous times. Did you deem them all too much of a cnut to play for us?

We've had our fair share of cnuts on and off the pitch, just like any other club in the world.
 
Rozay said:
Has anyone mentioned the fact that he's beautiful, or is that totally irrelevant these days?
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I was about to say he is almost (obviously only almost) giving Becks competition with all that handsomeness!
 
Orton said:
The last day of the season ring any bells, or any of those uncalled for elbows that he seems to get away with more often than not?
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Maybe so. I tend to give him no 'credit' and think everything he does is an accident.
 
Varun said:
On the pitch, we haven't had our share of cnuts? Do you all want Fellaini thrown out of the club due to his stamping or elbowing? What about Rooney's elbows, want him gone too? Scholesy when he went through people late to leave a mark? How about keano when he did it numerous times. Did you deem them all too much of a cnut to play for us?

We've had our fair share of cnuts on and off the pitch, just like any other club in the world.
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Absloutely, Keane was a god to me, but that isn't the point I was making. in these terms Giggs was a saint is all I was saying.
 
Varun said:
On the pitch, we haven't had our share of cnuts? Do you all want Fellaini thrown out of the club due to his stamping or elbowing? What about Rooney's elbows, want him gone too? Scholesy when he went through people late to leave a mark? How about keano when he did it numerous times. Did you deem them all too much of a cnut to play for us?

We've had our fair share of cnuts on and off the pitch, just like any other club in the world.
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Yet they didn't have as many red cards combined as Ramos alone.
 
diarm said:
Of that list, I think only Silva and Terry are better than him and Boateng is about equal. The rest are worse. That's not to say I don't think Ramos is a little overrated, just that the standard of central defenders is as low as it's been in my lifetime.

We didn't know how lucky we were with Rio and Vidic, or Stam before that, or Bruce and Pallister before that.
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Silva and Terry at their best were better, but currently they are not. I would say that he is the best CB in the world together with Pique, Godin and possibly Boateng. From these, only ique was clearly better last season (dismissing the first couple of months when Pique was genuinely awful).
 
Varun said:
On the pitch, we haven't had our share of cnuts? Do you all want Fellaini thrown out of the club due to his stamping or elbowing? What about Rooney's elbows, want him gone too? Scholesy when he went through people late to leave a mark? How about keano when he did it numerous times. Did you deem them all too much of a cnut to play for us?

We've had our fair share of cnuts on and off the pitch, just like any other club in the world.
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Watch those videos and remind yourself what a joke he can be. When have you ever seen any of our players act like that? People need to feck off with the Scholes comparison. He made a bad tackle every now and then and took his punishment no fuss. You're going on as if he did it every game, there's no comparison.
 
He's a "winner" regardless of how you much you think he's a cnut. Ronaldo play acted, Keane had some horrific tackles but they had the winning mentality that we need in our team again.
 
united_99 said:
I was about to say he is almost (obviously only almost) giving Becks competition with all that handsomeness!
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Mata, Blind, Herrera, Shaw, Falcao. There's a Woody theme; he's always got his marketing head on (I'm obviously not disregarding their footballing ability).

We will ignore the tattooed Argies.
 
sullydnl said:
Some people seem bemused that other don't rate Ramos all that highly, so I looked at a Madrid fan site to check what they thought of him. Enjoy:


Disclaimer: I'm not saying they're right, some of those posts read like the more stupid opinions we tend to get on this site. Still though, it's fair to say we're not the only ones with a few reservations when it comes to Sergio.....
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Posts that are written after he apparently asked to leave.

You can go in De Gea thread and find far worse. A lot of people have said in the last past months that De Gea was a liability for half of his time here (which would mean 2/4 seasons), despite that he was the best keeper in the league in his second season here, and our best player for the last two seasons (at least in the last season he was the best keeper too).
 
Now we have started comparing the aggresiveness of some of our legends with the thuggery and cuntiness of this diving and moaning cnut. Jesus Christ!

Sign a new fecking contract Sergio!

pocco said:
Madrid and Ramos going to discuss a new contract according to ESPN.
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Good.
 
pocco said:
Watch those videos and remind yourself what a joke he can be. When have you ever seen any of our players act like that? People need to feck off with the Scholes comparison. He made a bad tackle every now and then and took his punishment no fuss. You're going on as if he did it every game, there's no comparison.
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But Ramos does?

Dude, most footballers act like idiots here and then, who seriously cares?

De Gea isn't signing a contract, Rafael is a hot head, Evans spits on people, Smalling dresses up like a terrorist, Vidic acted like an angry thug, Rio missed drugs tests, Evra was a street fighter, Keane used to stamp on people, Rooney stamps on peoples nuts, Scholes was the worst tackler in our history. Shit happens. Ramos would be a signing that, along with one or two more, could propel us towards winning the league and that's all that matters. Yes he can be a little bitch, but aren't all of us bitches?
 
Insanity said:
Now we have started comparing the aggresiveness of some of our legends with the thuggery and cuntiness of this diving and moaning cnut. Jesus Christ!

Sign a new fecking contract Sergio!



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You wouldn't want one of the best ball playing cb's because he's a bit of a prick ?
 
Captain Hindsight said:
But Ramos does?

Dude, most footballers act like idiots here and then, who seriously cares?

De Gea isn't signing a contract, Rafael is a hot head, Evans spits on people, Smalling dresses up like a terrorist, Vidic acted like an angry thug, Rio missed drugs tests, Evra was a street fighter, Keane used to stamp on people, Rooney stamps on peoples nuts, Scholes was the worst tackler in our history. Shit happens. Ramos would be a signing that, along with one or two more, could propel us towards winning the league and that's all that matters. Yes he can be a little bitch, but aren't all of us bitches?
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Vidic acted like a thug? When was this?
Evra was exemplary on and off the pitch. Seriously, why try to rewrite history? We all remember their times here and know you're talking rubbish.

Scholes our worst tackler in history :lol: Talk about stretching the truth.
 
moses said:
Absloutely, Keane was a god to me, but that isn't the point I was making. in these terms Giggs was a saint is all I was saying.
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Giggs is. No doubt. My point wasn't just about him. We've had our cnuts before, we'll have them in the future too. Ramos is one too and that's no reason to turn him down.
Siorac said:
Yet they didn't have as many red cards combined as Ramos alone.
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Doesn't mean they aren't cnuts.

pocco said:
Watch those videos and remind yourself what a joke he can be. When have you ever seen any of our players act like that? People need to feck off with the Scholes comparison. He made a bad tackle every now and then and took his punishment no fuss. You're going on as if he did it every game, there's no comparison.
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Ramos does it every game? Oh and I don't need to see the videos again. He is a cnut. I don't deny that. My point is that being a cnut was never a reason for us to not have a player before.

Scholes do isn't just make bad tackles btw. It wasn't accidental by any means.
 
Varun said:
On the pitch, we haven't had our share of cnuts? Do you all want Fellaini thrown out of the club due to his stamping or elbowing? What about Rooney's elbows, want him gone too? Scholesy when he went through people late to leave a mark? How about keano when he did it numerous times. Did you deem them all too much of a cnut to play for us?

We've had our fair share of cnuts on and off the pitch, just like any other club in the world.
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Seems you dont understand why i dont want him here,just as i would not like to see Busquets or Suarez in our shirt,none of those 2 are in Afro elbow mode but does not change a thing about my feelings towards them.Like i said its weird and guess i dont know how better to explain it.
 
Insanity said:
Now we have started comparing the aggresiveness of some of our legends with the thuggery and cuntiness of this diving and moaning cnut. Jesus Christ!

Sign a new fecking contract Sergio!



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:lol:

You should stay away from this. You don't seem to be someone that'd take this well. Aggressiveness when done by one of our own. Cuntishness and thuggery when done by someone else.
 
ESPN have had articles about their sources understanding alot of United related things in the past (last season we weren't done on deadline day with just Falcao according to their sources), with Miguel DeLooney claiming alot of United transfer related news as facts and they've never come true.

It is still very much ON.
 
R'hllor said:
Seems you dont understand why i dont want him here,just as i would not like to see Busquets or Suarez in our shirt,none of those 2 are in Afro elbow mode but does not change a thing about my feelings towards them.Like i said its weird and guess i dont know how better to explain it.
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I understand mate. Your reasons stem out of personal dislike. I feel the same about terry. One can't put a proper pulse on the reason but it's there.

Ditto Suarez and Tevez but the reasons there are obvious
 
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