I am uncomfortable with the age myself and anything above the 20-25m mark would be ridiculous. However Ramos would add quality and experience in defense and because of his age he will permit Jones a second chance to claim a first team role
Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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I am uncomfortable with the age myself and anything above the 20-25m mark would be ridiculous. However Ramos would add quality and experience in defense and because of his age he will permit Jones a second chance to claim a first team role
Ramos is not the only player than can improve our starting XI.
It is not pointless, financial information is available free on the net. It can be discussed like millions of other pointless discussions we have on this site, which also we have no control over.
I am not saying I know better than Woodward or VG, I am giving my opinion, like you or anyone else. The club also appointed Moyes, and then Woorward managed to feck up two transfer windows. Then we appointed VG and didn't come out looking like geniuses in another window. I am not being overly dramatic in my concern. Much bigger entities than Manchester United have fallen like a pack of cards before. Souness and the then Liverpool board laid the foundation for the current state of one of the most successful football clubs in England. Milan cannot finish higher than 7th and they were champions in 2010-11.
We have spent close to 235m pounds in two years and are still looking for 5-6 first team players. That to me suggests that may be the higher ups are a bit clueless without Fergie's control.
And please, do not assume that I am in any way suggesting that buying or not buying Ramos will bring us down. We have digressed far away from that now.
This is a discussion forum for a club in Manchester, which you and me sitting in India discuss on a daily basis. Let's not start talking about weird.
I think it's completely subjective and we won't know how 'dirty' he is until he plays a season in the Premier League. In saying that, some of his red cards for Madrid are suspect if you read that article. It also says he averages a red card for Madrid every 20 games, does anyone know what Vidic's average was? Or Keane for that matter?
I did ask you to list all those that are better than him. Your list had numerous names who aren't better and even the ones that are, would not be available.
I wasn't talking about the availability of financial data. Read my post again if you need to. My point is simply about being as definitive as you are about wages and fees and what would be value and what wouldn't be.
We have digressed way too much, agreed. So let's leave it at this when it comes to the rest of the post.
I can't imagine another club on this planet (well, maybe Barca), who's fans would not want Ramos in their team. I suppose it just highlights a certain section of our fans who think United are the centre of the universe and only the best (which Ramos actually is) will do - even though we haven't had the best for many years.
I think we will be very lucky if we did get Ramos. Very lucky.
I think we will be very lucky if we did get Ramos. Very lucky.
Anyone would think he was John Terry based on all the cnut calling. A racist, shag you mates bird, coke head scummy parents and a truly genuine fecking tw@t is definitely worthy of the title cnut. What has Ramos done to get such a rep, I know he is a primadonna on the pitch but anything else.... just curious?
He's a cynical thug, always was, always will be.
He's also a moaning, diving, cheating cnut. Terry is actually far less scummy on the pitch and even he's still a despicable player. Ramos is just unbearable, every time I see him I just want to punch him. I don't want him anywhere near the club.
He's rash, his disciplinary record is shocking and he's just thoroughly dislikeable. I'm praying this transfer falls through, that he'll get that new contract.
Nothing. People hate him because he elbows here and there (all defenders do it by the way), pumped up for the clasicos, falls a bit easy at times, but nothing to deserve the hate he gets. When he scored against Atletico in the final, you could see the hate on the caf. Thats also a reason, he denied the hipster club to win the CL. He generally represents Real or what Real stand for.
Most of his actions are during clasicos or against Atletico, in a lof of other games he behaves pretty normal.
Can we stop chasing the wind and go for Otamendi now?
Someone put it very well earlier.
Don't spend money - glazers are cheapstakes, pocketing the massive revenue.
Spend money - we are throwing money away. No one cares about the long term future of the club.
The visual effects, the voiceover, the music and of course the fine actors (on the pitch, in the technical area and of course in the stands as well). Possibly the most dramatic enactment of a football match I've ever seen.
In terms of discipline I don't think that he is a lot worse than Vidic, Yes his yellow cards record is ridiculous but half of them wouldn't have been given in the PL.
So now they've agreed to sell, and we're just haggling over the price, how about just offer them DDG + €10m, they can call that whatever they like. €90m and they've also got another galaticos with DDG being the most expensive keeper ever ever...
Has anyone mentioned the fact that he's beautiful, or is that totally irrelevant these days?
Reminds me why I hate this cnut. Dropped a brick in that first video when Godin stood up to him.
Those videos show him to be a passionate and somewhat crazy cnut I'll agree. He doesn't reach the levels of detest that I have reserved for Terry though and that's not due to a rivalry with Chelsea I just really really hate the fecker.
I'm either or with regards to signing (not for 90m euros) so I'd be happy if he comes regardless of his on the field temper. I would also be just as happy with Otamendi or Hummels but my muppet b0ner is on ice for Schneiderlin although not in the superstar levels of Ramos or Schweinsteiger.
I'm perfectly happy for us to get Ramos, I think he'll be a great addition. But I hate the way we are once again ending up being bent over by Madrid here.
We are looking at sending them possibly our most valuable player, who is 24, entirely against our will. They are sending us a 29 year-old whose relationship with the club has broken down and needs moving on.
It is us who should be in the driving seat here, calling the shots, and milking them for all they are worth. Especially given that they are one of a couple of clubs who can genuinely claim to be bigger than us, and so for once we should be benefiting from big-club tax.
Personally I don't think we should be paying them a penny - a straight swap should be the worst deal we accept. Instead, I hear about us "going back in" with improved offers after they turn down £35m (!), while the signs are that DDG will be going for under £20m.
We are looking at sending them possibly our most valuable player, who is 24, entirely against our will. They are sending us a 29 year-old whose relationship with the club has broken down and needs moving on.
It is us who should be in the driving seat here, calling the shots, and milking them for all they are worth. Especially given that they are one of a couple of clubs who can genuinely claim to be bigger than us, and so for once we should be benefiting from big-club tax.
Personally I don't think we should be paying them a penny - a straight swap should be the worst deal we accept. Instead, I hear about us "going back in" with improved offers after they turn down £35m (!), while the signs are that DDG will be going for under £20m.
I think we need Ramos to tell both us and Madrid that he definitely wants the move. That should reduce the fee. Madrid might regret turning down our first offer, (if true) since they're basically gambling on him not wanting to come out and say this.
It is hard to say who is or should be in the driving seat. Ramos actually loves Real, it is Perez that he doesnt like. While De Gea wants to go, with 1 year left on his contract, but the situation at United is perfect for him. Ramos has 2 years left with a massive buyout clause, he wont be cheap.
The thing is they can afford to sell Ramos, while de Gea is much more valuable to us than Ramos to them. I dont see why we should be in a better position. Maybe you would like it, but Real have a clear advantage. They want De Gea, as long as he isnt involved in a deal, this wont happen, unless we make a crazy bid.
Voted for "Hell no",maybe its stupid and i dont have issue with this qualities as player but he is special type of cnut,so really dont want him near us.
I probably shouldn't bring this up in this thread but do you really believe Ramos is a bigger cnut than Rooney or Giggsy?
Oh get off it.
We've had a fair share of insane players over the years. Keane, Scholes, Rooney and Cantona to name a few. Heck, the latter kung fu kicked a fecking spectator...
Lets start buying "nice" players and see how far we get with them.
A different type. He's an embarrassment on the pitch at times. I'm surprised we're interested in a player like this, but under the current regime nothing surprises me.
This is just crazy. He is no worse that other players we have had. Giggs , Keane , Best and Eric all spring to mind . He would improve the team by a huge margin.
Scholes doesn't belong in this conversation. Rooney isn't that bad on the pitch. Cantons kicked a racist supporter, which you conveniently missed out
FFS some of the comments getting posted are frankly just fecking stupid .
Other than the kick against Messi, i dont know what people are on about. Costa, Mandzukic and Godin are cnuts themselves. And as i said, it is always against Barca and Atletico. 2 teams full of cnuts, i dont think we can count that as normal games or normal behaviour. Messi himself behaves like one in the clasico at times.
This might sound weird to some of you lovebirds but his cuntishness is part of why I like him so much.
Guess i should say on field cnut,i didnt see what Rooney and Giggs done off the field,that does not mean they both arent cnuts of highest order for doing so. Its weird,maybe its just me but man there is something i cant stand in players like Ratface,Busquets etc.,maybe they are all great off field but when it comes to their action on the field,does it matter?
I've always liked Ramos, despite him being a total prick. In fact there's a lot of footballers who are total pricks who I like, maybe I'm just into bad boys?
Scholes was quite reckless in a large percentage of his tackles, Rooney's had many instances of childish behaviour - recently against West Ham and Cardiff (13/14), and lets all kick out at any racist person.
I couldn't care less about their behaviour on the pitch, as long as it doesn't exceed normality. When emotions are high, you're going to act in ways that you shouldn't, its called... errr... being human; many here seem to be unaware. We need a tough nut like Ramos, especially, given he's actually a brilliant defender.
Dunno who said he wouldnt.
Who cares anyway? I'm a complete arsehole when I'm playing football. I played 5v5 astro the other day and called some poor guy a little prick cause he accidentally ran into me, and proceeded to man mark him the entire game and make sure he could do nothing with the football.
How tall was he?
Not very. I did get myself headbutted by a 6ft 5 guy a few years ago though because he made an awkward tackle on me so I started giving him shit for the entire rest of the match. Got him sent off though, totally worth it.
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