Insanity.
Sergio Busquets for 25 million Pounds
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Insanity.
Drugs are bad.
As a player I'd have him over Carrick as a person he can fook right off.
I agree with this post. Like after all, it's all down to Busquets that 4 of the 5 players in front of him and 2 behind him are world class. Xabi and Khedira can't do what he does together, 50-60mil should cover it.
Would Fergie (in the fantasy land where this happened) get onto him about some of the odious crap?
Truth be told, he's not done a lot with Nani and the "death challenges" he "receives" nearly every match, and Ronaldo was a bit of a law unto himself.
Truth be told, he's not done a lot with Nani and the "death challenges" he "receives" nearly every match, and Ronaldo was a bit of a law unto himself.
Be a good signing but he's just negotiating his new contract at Barca.
His agent will be using our 'interest' so Barca offer him more money.
Signing a new 5 year deal apparently.
There's a shock.
There's a shock.
Barcelona would've been mad to let go of Busquets.
He's an absolutely cracking player, and I can't believe he's only in his early 20s. World class in every sense of the term, though he's not the type of midfielder we should be looking at in my opinion (not just because he's a complete bellend).
What gets me is this whole Fabregas situation. It seems almost written in the stars that he's going to end up at Barcelona, but where will he fit in? Re-arranging their formation in terms of their front 3 (Villa, Pedro, Messi) would be a very, very stupid thing to do, and it's not as if Xavi and Iniesta are going to be displaced in favour of anyone. This leaves Busquets, who is not only a fantastic player, but who is also made for that line-up.
He's an absolutely cracking player, and I can't believe he's only in his early 20s. World class in every sense of the term, though he's not the type of midfielder we should be looking at in my opinion (not just because he's a complete bellend).
What gets me is this whole Fabregas situation. It seems almost written in the stars that he's going to end up at Barcelona, but where will he fit in? Re-arranging their formation in terms of their front 3 (Villa, Pedro, Messi) would be a very, very stupid thing to do, and it's not as if Xavi and Iniesta are going to be displaced in favour of anyone. This leaves Busquets, who is not only a fantastic player, but who is also made for that line-up.
He's signed a new deal till 2015
What a surprise
Think that was in reality always on the cards
Indeed. Barca first team players dont leave off their own back.
Surprise, Surprise !!!
he's a Barca lifer like Xavi and Iniesta and probably Messi.
Busquets is getting better all the time. Anyone seen him play alongside Mascherano? he's given a more forward role and has put in excellent performances doing so. He's an all round gem of a player.
Busquets is getting better all the time. Anyone seen him play alongside Mascherano? he's given a more forward role and has put in excellent performances doing so. He's an all round gem of a player.
NO THANKS! We have Darren Fletcher whom is a superior footballer, we need attacking midfielders. I'd love a Messi, a Iniesta, a Xavi, and even a Villa but that diving cnut is not fecking worth it! His dive against Inter is one of the most disgraceful things I ever saw on a football pitch.
You do realise he plays regularly in the Barcelona and Spain midfield?
I'm a Darren Fletcher fanboi, but that's a ridiculous statement to make. Busquets is just a class act, another world class Barca midfielder in making, a despicable cnut though.
This. When I see past my blinded hatred of the man I see a fantastic footballer, some though chose not to rate him because of the fact that he is a serial prat and some fail to see what he offers as a player. Being a starter for Barcelona and Spain says it all really. As much as I like Fletcher he really is a vastly superior player.
didnt think we need him and happy he staying at barca
This is also one thing I don't understand. Carrick is our only natural defensive MF. If we loose him or if he lost his form we are missing a key-player.
Everybody rave about VDS,Vidic and Rio, and rightly so but don't forget Michael Carrick's contribution.
Carrick is only 30 years old and probably have couple of good year in him but sooner or later we need a good replacement. I don't know if Pogba is suited to play as a DM but otherwise this is a area we need to look after.
Most people fails to take Barcelona's situation into context. La Liga is one of the worst leagues in Europe right now. Barcelona and Real Madrid are taking most of the country's TV income with individual TV deals. And that is destroying the league, because the small teams, don't have money. There are often not full stadiums as Spain has been hit hard by the financial crisis. Acadamies cost money to run. 20 years ago every South American ended up in Spain, and that is what made the league so strong in the past. Now they go everywhere else as well as the South American teams gets better finances, and wont sell their prime talent without a decent amount of money. The last couple of years La Liga has become worse and worse.
If things don't change down there, it will not surprise me if Barcelona or Real Madrid manages a 114 point season soon. How can you fail as a defensive midfielder when you only have a handful of challenging matches each season? And to be fair he is not always good in those either. When they had Yaya Toure he was the clear second choice, and I would not say he is doing better up here in a real league than Fletcher. It is also a bit of the Arsenal invincibles, that defence was not that strong. They did not need to be because of the extraordinary attack. Barcelona have a bit of the same thing.
When we get linked to the prime players in Holland, for example Suarez - everyone is saying it is such a bad league. Fact is Spain is not much better than Holland. If you take 10-20 in La Liga vs 8 to 18th in the Dutch league, I don't believe that the Spanish teams would dominate such a league at all. If you compared them with Germany, Italy or France - I think the dutch league would struggle more. If you excluded the 30 best players from both national sides, I think Holland might get the best team, Spain would not dominate them, I know that. When you think about there lives 46 million people in Spain, and only 16 millions in Holland... If you took 10-20 in the English league and put them against any other league, England would dominate. There is simply no easy games in the Premier League. Despite of this fact Barcelona usually end up conceding more than us, that tells you something of how great the United defence is, even though we have done rather bad this season... Fletcher is a big part of that strong defence.
Our cup game against Southampton is almost a harder match than Levante is for Barcelona... Busquets does so great, because he is almost never tested, Fletcher has hard matches all the time. Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson would all do far better at Barcelona than at United - main reason, easier opposition.
I stopped reading there. You're a nonce.
Are you having a laugh? These two comments show so much blatant ignorance. La Liga is flights above the the Eredivisie and if you think otherwise then you are seriously deluded. I hate people that harp on about how poor La Liga allegedly is when either Barca or Real trounce someone.
Yes, those two teams are arguably the best two teams in the world, and Atletico Madrid, Villareal, Sevilla and Valencia also have some talented players... But the top sides does not make the league, even though Ajax became Champions of Europe in 1995 - and probably was one of the best teams in the world back then - that did not make the Dutch league among the best in Europe, same thing about the German league around the end of the 90's and the beginning if the 00s when German clubs had Champions League finals in 97, 99, 00, and 02 - Germany was still not considered alongside Italy, Spain or England. The likes of Almería, Málaga and Levante pulls the Spanish league just as much down as Real Madrid and Barcelona pulls it up... Those teams might have relegated from the Championship, they are utterly useless.
Its about the average team, not the best one. And that average team is poor. For example Stoke, Newcastle, Everton, right now even Liverpool are pretty average English teams. There is a lot of quality there.
Yeah I understand where you are coming from. Thing is when Ajax won the Champions League it was more a case that they had a golden generation of players that left for bigger clubs pretty soon after that. The rest of the teams bar maybe PSV where all pretty poor, the Eredivisie will never be considered alongside the big leagues in Europe as they can’t compete financially and generally their best players leave to go play in Italy, England, Spain etc. Germany is a bit of a different story, I personally think that the Bundesliga is underated, just a personal opinion though, the stadiums are fantastic and there is a lot of good football played. The German League though is considered a relatively strong league, and back when Bayern and Dortmund were competing in the Champions League finals the league wasn’t considered alongside Italy, Spain etc because there wasn’t enough competition beyond those two. Lets not forget back then Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea had made no significant mark on the Champions Legaue.
You have just named the bottom 3 teams in Spain to try make a point, take the bottom 3 in England, Wigan, West Ham and Wolves, are they really much better than Almeria, Malaga and Levante? I don’t think so to be honest. Especially Malaga who I think will stay up as they have invested heavily lately due to their new owners and appointed Manuel Pellegerini as manager. Stoke, Everton and Newcastle, ok yeah they are all strong teams for ‘supposed’ average Premiership teams, but lets not forget that it was Villareal who knocked Everton out of the Cahampions League qualifiers not so long ago. Take Espanyol, Bilbao and Getafe, they are all 'average' Spanish sides and I am not so sure that they are any worse then the 3 English sides that you mentioned. If you go take a look and compare the two league tables you will see that they are actually quite similar as in between 4th and 5th place in La Liga there is a 3 point gap whereas in the Premiership there is a 4 point gap.
I will agree that the fight for the title in the Premiership is a much more intriguing battle as in Spain the gulf between the 2 powerhouses and the rest is at present quite a distance. But I would not write off the rest of the teams in the league, Sky now show between 2 and 4 La Liga games every weekend and believe me other sides can play apart from the big two. The comparison to the Eredivisie was simply crazy and I don’t think the situation mirrors anything like when Ajax, Bayern or Dortmund won the Champions League. The Spanish league is competitive and it is pure ignorance to say that Stoke, Newcastle etc are any better than the average team in Spain. People constantly try to discredit Barcelona by writing off the league as weak, this is simply not the case and reality is that Barcelona are an exceptional side and capable of beating most teams in Europe let alone La Liga.
Good post, but I think you're under-rating the German league somewhat. Throughout the 1990s it was amongst the strongest in Europe with its coefficient well above the Premiership until 2001. The likes of Dortmund and Bayern had some great teams in Europe and neither coasted the Bundesliga, with the winners usually averaging about 70 points, dropping plenty of points along the way.
I think they might have been one of the best leagues back then. But I think very few thought that.
The thing about Italy and Germany is that they produce tons of talent, and rather few exports. France and Holland also produce tons of talent but the main difference is that they have a lot of exports. Spain hasn't produced as much as these countries. As a matter of fact, most of the big players in Spanish players comes either from the Barcelona reserves or the Real Madrid reserves. I think the main reason Spain has been high up there because they have brought in tons of Argentinians, Brazilians and other South Americans - because South American did not have money. Now these go everywhere and the "Spanish monopoly" is fading. That alongside the individual TV deals is a big cancer to Spanish football, and they need to repair a lot of things in that country.
England probably did not claim the #1 league in the world spot until the last half of the previous decade. In the beginning of the last decade Italy was #1. They had Parma, Lazio, Roma, Inter, AC Milan and Juventus all battling it out for the scudetto and the Champions League spots... Then Italy was "killed by the scandal".
To answer like this. Lets combine the squads of the relegation candidates.
The five teams per today I feel confident will be in the relegation battle will be Birmingham, West Brom, West Ham, Wigan & Wolves. If we combine their squads... You see a pile of good goalkeepers, not a world beating defence but still a pretty good one, a very strong midfield, and decent forwards.
4-5-1?
Green (England International)
Hennesey (Wales International)
Hahnemann (USA International)
Foster (England International)
Carson (England International)
Myhill (Wales International)
Kirkland (England International)
Al Habsi (Oman International)
Bridge (England international)
Macienne (Has trained with the England squad, was he called up? talented kid)
Upson (England international)
Caldwell (Scotland international)
Figeroa (Honduras International)
Scharner (Austria International)
Zuiverloon
Shorey (England International)
Hitzlsperger (Germany International)
Parker (England International)
Spector(USA International)
Hunt (Ireland International)
Jarvis (I would not be surprised if he get a cap before he retires)
N'Zongbia (France International)
Cleverley (Future England International)
Thomas (Honduras International)
Larsson (Sweden International)
Bentley (England International)
Tchoyi (Cameroon International)
Doyle (Ireland International)
Fletcher(Scotland International)
Cole (England International)
Rodallega (Columbia International)
Odemwingie (Nigeria International)
Zigic (Serbia International)
Every single ones of these would improve a pretty good team for example Liverpool. And to be fair, this squad could fight in the top of any league, it would not be as good as Barcelona, Manchester United or Real Madrid. In England I am not sure if they could make it to the Champions Leauge, in most other leagues I am pretty confident that they could. If I did this with midtable teams such as Aston Villa, Stoke, Newcastle, Sunderland, Liverpool we would get a team capable of fighting in the top of any league. You will not be able to do that, with the "under Europe" Spanish teams.
Most teams in England just have a couple of real quality players. I think all these teams could have been mid-table in Spain. I really do.
Getafe is very unstable. Bilbao could have been a lot better if it had not been for the only Basque players rule they have put upon themselves. But those are clubs in contention of Europe, the ones I mentioned are not this season. And there is another reason, the past years top teams has not really improved much, while the "mid table sides have" there is a evolution in England. In Spain, there is a fecking devolution - and that is scary for Spanish football. The decent and bad sides in Spain needs more money, because they dont even have enough to run their academies properly. In the beginning of last decade several sides could win in Spain, Atletico Madrid, Deportivo, Valencia... In 1998 Real Betis set the world transfer record in Denilson, it did not last for long but still... That cannot happen anymore, because all the TV income goes to two clubs, and that aint right. If I played in a bottom Spanish side I would refuse to be on TV they way those rights are today. People say Italy is corrupt... what the feck should one call Spain? Think about Negredo... They sold him, he became great, buy back clause to sign him for nothing, sell him expensive... That is fecking disgusting.