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nowadays attacking players aren't confined to playing wide or up-top, with the amount of interchanging, e.g Messi/Etoo at Barca, Rooney/Ronaldo, etc
 
nowadays attacking players aren't confined to playing wide or up-top, with the amount of interchanging, e.g Messi/Etoo at Barca, Rooney/Ronaldo, etc
True, but in the sense that I would not put Kun on the wing in a 4-4-2 like Rooney or Ronaldo.

Yes, he can do a job for us there, but he's more devastating in the middle. If drifting wide helps him then he'll do that, but wide positions are not his strength.
 
not 4-4-2

4-3-3
it works for us (2 titles and 2 champs league finals in 2 years)
 
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We've played 4-3-3 in about 25% of our games in the last three seasons Paz.
 
I know what a 4-3-3 is!

I know, but I'm just highlighting how the front three are so intertwined and you can't just tell an attacker to stick in the center and 2 on each wings, there are three positions and they all have the freedom to fill each one as play progresses IMO
 
Ronaldo constantly drifting inside and roaming up front, makes our 442 or 4231 whatever you want to call it, close to a 433. Especially since he never tracks back. However, it's true that we haven't fielded 3 true center mids very often, because of the absence of Hargreaves.
 
I don't think it is Paz.

At least not in general. In the Champions League it is, for away games at least.

random post from a random matchday thread I searched for

That team selection has certainly surprised me but it's still a quality team.

I expect them to line up like this:

VDS
Neville Vidic Evans Evra
Fletcher Scholes Anderson
Ronaldo --------------- Giggs
Rooney​

https://www.redcafe.net/6112288-post215.html

United vs Portsmouth in the league
 
really? I'm sure it is our predominant formation :confused:

Well then you've got a very short memory.

We've played it a bit more this season than the previous two, but just a bit.
 
In the way that we employ the formation in big matches, could just as well be a 4-5-1 as a 4-3-3. We're not playing it to dink it around like Barca. Fergie utilizes the three man midfield to clog things up.
 
We switch up alot to the 4-3-3, we rarely start with it which I think is what BRwneds gettign at.

The way our players can transform their positional shape during a match is testament to SAF and the coaching staff.
 
Not when you understand the tactics of the formation and how it works. It can become 4-5-1 but then you are changing the principles of the team from attacking to defending.

Ok. So it's a 4-5-1 while we're defending. But when we attack it becomes a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 or even 4-4-2 at times. Wonderful.
 
Actually we play 4-2-3-1. We revert to 3 men in midfield when defending and leave the 2 wingers forward to occupy opposing fullbacks.

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Who's our lone centre forward been then?

Berbatov certainly hasn't played that far up on his own, he's almost looked closer to being a midfielder than that. Rooney has, but not for a long time. Ronaldo did, but only right at the end.
 
Who's our lone centre forward been then?

Berbatov certainly hasn't played that far up on his own, he's almost looked closer to being a midfielder than that. Rooney has, but not for a long time. Ronaldo did, but only right at the end.

this is the problem we have imo. Ronaldo is usually the furthest player up the field, even if he is on the wing.

Rooney and Berbatov play deep so as to basically occupy the "AM" central position, and we lack a real #9 CF who leads the line, and with Ronaldo gone i think that should be our priority position to strengthen, along with a "real" defensive midfielder.
 
Who's our lone centre forward been then?

Berbatov certainly hasn't played that far up on his own, he's almost looked closer to being a midfielder than that. Rooney has, but not for a long time. Ronaldo did, but only right at the end.

When Rooney's not on the wing he plays there, and he plays the role well.

When Tevez played with Berbatov he played there, just not particularly well.
 
Manchester United are reportedly ready to pay €60 million to sign Sergio Aguero from Atletico Madrid this summer.

The Argentine striker was not in great form last season but is still regarded as one of the best young talents in Europe and United are apparently keen to bring him to Old Trafford.

However, as was reported earlier today, Atletico have stated that they will not be accepting any bids for Aguero or Diego Forlan, so any offer would have to be above his buy-out clause.

Marca reports that since Cristiano Ronaldo is all but gone from Old Trafford, United are ready to spend the €60 million to bring 'Kun' in.

One positive factor for the English club is that they have a good relationship with IMG, who negotiate matters for the Argentine forward amongst others.

Apparently the player himself would not be against a move to United, and he would be an ideal replacement for not only Cristiano Ronaldo, but also Carlos Tevez.

The Argentine looks set to move to cross-city rivals Manchester City, leaving United short up front and in need of a new forward.

The Red Devils' plan is reportedly to talk to Atletico about a possible deal and to try and negotiate a suitable price for the forward.

If the Spanish club are not willing to sell for under the buy-out clause, then it is thought that United are willing to pay the €60 million fee.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/engla...ted-ready-to-pay-60-million-for-sergio-aguero

yesssss, come onnn, sign him already!! :drool:
atleast we're linked now, inching slowly towards a transfer....
 
Manchester United has set its target on the 'Kun' Agüero. According to published José Félix Díaz and Alberto R. MARK barber in the newspaper on Tuesday, the English, who have much money after the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, namely 96 million, considered the Argentine could be the ideal replacement for the vacancy left in Old Trafford and the Portuguese "Apache" Tevez.

The British had set to work in their offensive on the 'Kun' and has already initiated contacts with the multinational company that represents it. Ferguson takes an interest in the South for some time, but the presence of Tevez, a player with similar characteristics, it prevented the British raised their signing. Now that his compatriot has left United, Agüero has become an attractive target for Manchester, which now has only three staff in rams: Rooney, Berbatov and the young Italian Machede.

A circumstance that might facilitate the operation are the excellent relations that Manchester United has with the company representing IMG, which is managing the affairs of Agüero. This company has even pledged to work as scouts in Spain to the English club.

Agüero has always liked to Old Trafford, but Tevez to exit have not been hiring

Meanwhile Atletico remains steadfast in his idea of not selling their stars and refers to the clause of the Argentine, which is 60 million euros plus VAT.

The intention of Manchester, and more specifically, David Gill, CEO, and Alex Ferguson, is to negotiate with Atlético seeking a reduction of the clause, but time would not have a problem at all rojiblanco pay if he refuses to negotiate.

Juventus was negotiated in Madrid
On the other hand, Juventus has been negotiating with Atletico in recent days. In fact, his sporting director, Alessio Secco, traveled to Madrid last week. Although they have not transcended the names of those players spoke, it appears that the crisis facing Italian football makes feasible the 'Vecchia Signora' might be interested in Agüero and Forlan. Hence they might have been talking about the possible departure of Maxi Rodríguez in the direction of Italy or the arrival of Trezeguet to the Ribera del Manzanares.

http://www.marca.com/2009/06/23/futbol/equipos/atletico/1245778063.html

:drool: :drool: :drool:
 
fecking excellent

....VDS/Foster......
Rafael....Rio...Vidic...Valencia
Aguero...Carrick......Rooney
Benzema..Berbatov....Costa
 
....VDS/Foster......
Rafael....Rio...Vidic...Valencia
Aguero...Carrick......Rooney
Benzema..Berbatov....Costa
Too defensive.

I have lost my all respect to the Argies. Who knows what will Aguero want after three years in Manchester? Move to City or Chelsea?

Let's try to buy Benzema, Costa and Valencia.
 
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