Seamus Coleman

Mogget said:
Yep, Baines and Coleman certainly showed their class against Chelsea this season.
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Slightly odd to pick one game.
I could pick up on Arsenal being destroyed by Liverpool, City, Everton and Chelsea last year, us being destroyed by City three years ago, Barcelona being destroyed by Bayern, followed by Bayern being destroyed by Madrid.

That wouldn't leave many defensive players of 'class' in the top teams, would it?
Especially Arsenal, who tend to get hammered more than anyone.
 
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limerickcitykid said:
Coleman did actually. He was great that match, wasn't at fault for any of the goals and did a good job going forward getting an assist and setting up Mirallas for a near miss.
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He scored an og, didn't he? I remember Costa getting in his face after it.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Well your overrating of Welbeck so far has bordered on the hilarious and if anyone dares to criticise him for any particular match, you get all defensive. Just funny from you of all people. You picked one single game against a top team as a stick to beat two very good players. It's just odd. Rewind to last season when both had very very good games against plenty of top teams.

Edit: Not to mention you actually picked an absolutely bat shit mental match where both defences looked like pub teams.
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Alright then, show me these posts where I overrated Welbeck. The most outlandish thing I've said about him is that I think he could go on to be a top striker because he's well rounded, nothing at all about his current ability.
 
Speak said:
Slightly odd to pick one game.
I could pick up on Arsenal being destroyed by Liverpool, City, Everton and Chelsea last year, us being destroyed by City three years ago, Barcelona being destroyed by Bayern, followed by Bayern being destroyed by Madrid.

That wouldn't leave many defensive players of 'class' in the top teams, would it?
Especially Arsenal, who tend to get hammered more than anyone.
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Golly, I guess Arsenal having a shit defence means you totally disproved my point about Coleman.

Basically "You're wrong because the team you support is shit".
 
limerickcitykid said:
Wasn't his fault though, someone goes through all the goals earlier in the thread.
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I thought Hazard beat him and then when getting back Coleman knocked it into the net?

EDIT: Found the post you were on about, seems it was McCarthy that got beat by Hazard.
 
Mogget said:
Golly, I guess Arsenal having a shit defence means you totally disproved my point about Coleman.

Basically "You're wrong because the team you support is shit".
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What about the other teams? Shit defences all around too, I guess....
Because being badly beaten in a game proves a lack of class.

Fair enough if you don't rate them. That's just a really bad way of putting your point across.
 
Mogget said:
Alright then, show me these posts where I overrated Welbeck. The most outlandish thing I've said about him is that I think he could go on to be a top striker because he's well rounded, nothing at all about his current ability.
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I'm pretty sure you have got all antsy when people have criticised particular games in which he has played poor. Maybe it's not you, but I'm pretty sure it was.

Anyhow, it's very odd you picked that game out. As others have said, Coleman actually played pretty well, don't really remember much of Baines. What was your point? That Coleman can't do it against top teams? Because thats utter bollox. He's had plenty of great performances against top teams.
 
sizzling sausages said:
I thought Hazard beat him and then when getting back Coleman knocked it into the net?

EDIT: Found the post you were on about, seems it was McCarthy that got beat by Hazard.
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Yep, there is highlights of the match on youtube. Hazards rounds McCarthy with ease and Coleman has to try cover for him by making a last ditch sliding block which unfortunately deflects in.
 
Robbie Boy said:
I'm pretty sure you have got all antsy when people have criticised particular games in which he has played poor. Maybe it's not you, but I'm pretty sure it was.

Anyhow, it's very odd you picked that game out. As others have said, Coleman actually played pretty well, don't really remember much of Baines. What was your point? That Coleman can't do it against top teams? Because that utter bollox. He's had plenty of great performances against top teams.
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It's not odd, because the original poster said Coleman plays well against the top English teams and that was the first game that came to mind where, imo, he didn't play well.
 
Mogget said:
It's not odd, because the original poster said Coleman plays well against the top English teams and that was the first game that came to mind where, imo, he didn't play well.
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Well it is odd. Why didn't you look into it a-bit more if you wanted to get involved in the debate? You obviously haven't watched much of Coleman if you have come to the conclusion that he can't play well against big teams. He was in the team of the season FFS, surely that means he must have had some good games against the top teams, no? That Chelsea game was a metal match and he honestly didn't do much wrong.

Goal.com ratings from that match:
Everton's best player was unlucky to score an own goal. Made terrific chances including an assist for Mirallas and defended Hazard well

http://www.goal.com/en-ie/match/everton-vs-chelsea/1703539/ratings


 
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Coleman had a good game against Chelsea, the fact youre saying he played poor because of the scoreline suggests you didnt watch it...the OG was extremely unlucky too.
 
I didn't say he played poorly ;)

I just don't think he played well in that match. The majority of his great games have come against lower tier opposition.
 
From another site:

Seamus Coleman – 7
Nullified Eden Hazard’s threat for most of the afternoon and even his own goal, when Hazard ran through it wasn’t Coleman who the Belgian skipped past with ease. In the first half the full-back was Everton’s most creative threat and he whipped in a terrific cross for Kevin Mirallas’ goal.
 
Robbie Boy said:
But he didn't? He got an assist and marked Hazard well, for the most part.

You came in with a silly sweeping statement and now you're getting called out. It happens.
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That's an easy statement to make but difficult for me to disprove without going back and watching the whole match again.

Since you're so convinced I'm wrong, I assume it'll be easy for you to name the other great games he's had against top opposition.
 
Well two separate websites and several posters said he was good. I don't know what further proof you need? You came in here with a stupid statement, basically insinuating because of one 'apparent' bad game against Chelesa, Coleman can't do it against the top teams. Since it's been proven that he actually didn't play bad - even if he did, it was one game, but he didn't - this surely proves you're wrong?

You will have to let the Everton fans tell you that. I can't think off the top of my head, but sure, I barely remember a-lot of our games last season. Fans and players player of the year and PFA team of the year, would make me assume that he had a-few good performances against the top teams.

@BigDunc9 - Off the top of your head, did Coleman have many good games last season against the top teams?
 
Robbie Boy said:
@BigDunc9 - Off the top of your head, did Coleman have many good games last season against the top teams?
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He was excellent at home to United and Arsenal arguably MOTM in both. Against Chelsea at the Bridge he was superb defensively against the best winger he can face in the league. I can't remember the other ones because they was earlier in the season. Them 3 performances stick out and I remember being very impressed with his performance against Hazard because we all know he is as good as any one going forward but that display proved he can defend well against a World Class player. He also put in a MOTM performance against England I recall.
 
BigDunc9 said:
He was excellent at home to United and Arsenal arguably MOTM in both. Against Chelsea at the Bridge he was superb defensively against the best winger he can face in the league. I can't remember the other ones because they was earlier in the season. Them 3 performances stick out and I remember being very impressed with his performance against Hazard because we all know he is as good as any one going forward but that display proved he can defend well against a World Class player. He also put in a MOTM performance against England I recall.
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Cheers.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Coleman was probably as good as Rafael is now two years ago anyway.
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Posts like these is why I feel there is a genuine British/Irish bias in favor of Coleman. Rafael was touted as a close competitor to Zabaleta two years back when Zabaleta was better than what he is now. Coleman only started to do well towards the second half of that season. He was not even close to Rafael's level over the course of the full season. Statements like that make my head hurt.
 
Hope his injury isn't a bad one because he has been fantastic this season. He was brilliant again today and is looking like the leagues best right back with Zabaleta not playing and Ivanovic trying to.
 
BigDunc9 said:
Hope his injury isn't a bad one because he has been fantastic this season. He was brilliant again today and is looking like the leagues best right back with Zabaleta not playing and Ivanovic trying to.
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Our man Darmian hasn't been half bad himself (won our player of the month thing), but I agree that Coleman has had a great start to the season.
 
Aye, he's been very good in the games I've seen. Costa doesn't seem to like him much either, which is basically a character reference.
 
Unlikely lad said:
Our man Darmian hasn't been half bad himself (won our player of the month thing), but I agree that Coleman has had a great start to the season.
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Yes he has been very good this season but I have only seen little of him so I don't want to be to rash putting him up there.
 
BigDunc9 said:
Yes he has been very good this season but I have only seen little of him so I don't want to be to rash putting him up there.
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He's better than Coleman defensively but not the same threat going forward.
 
Bump up. Apparently the odds for signing him have been slashed to 1/3
 
60 mill, 60 mill Séamus Coleman!
 
Think it's only MEN reporting this. I somehow can't see it happening. I do love ouel Seamus with the perpetually perplexed look on his face but why the feck would we want him at this stage, especially with Valencia in flying form.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Think it's only MEN reporting this. I somehow can't see it happening. I do love ouel Seamus with the perpetually perplexed look on his face but why the feck would we want him at this stage, especially with Valencia in flying form.
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Could we play him as a right-footed left full?
 
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