He'd have been in the same bracket as Kieran Richardson and Darron Gibson. He'd have been around the first team for a few seasons, maybe had a season or two where he hit double figures for appearances, and then ultimately sent packing to make a career elsewhere.
Scott McTominay | Napoli
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He'd have been in the same bracket as Kieran Richardson and Darron Gibson. He'd have been around the first team for a few seasons, maybe had a season or two where he hit double figures for appearances, and then ultimately sent packing to make a career elsewhere.
Yep I’d agree with that. They are more apt comparisons
Great leap, tbf.
What's happened? Surely unrelated to selling Scott McTominay?
Brave header, great goal
Great header, but no one was pining for him when he hardly touched the ball last week and gave up tracking a runner that cost Napoli 2 points. When all you see is the good bits from players who leave it isn’t a very clear perspective.
Nobody should’ve pined for him anymore, period. He’s moved on, so should everyone. I don't think we were even pining hard after Ronaldo moved to Real, so it's kind of weird if this is the sentiment for Scott McTom.
Tonight sums him up, good header but he’s hardly touched the ball and has completed about 10 passes in an hour. Good from him he’s playing every week, scored six goals but he’s still the same player with all the same problems.
Been poor since the goal. Classic McTominay performance.
Still, I'd take him over Zirkzee and Hojlund.
Still, I'd take him over Zirkzee and Hojlund.
He did need moving on but there’s so many players that should’ve been sold ahead of him.
The amount of times we could’ve done with his random goals this season is waaaay too high.
The amount of times we could’ve done with his random goals this season is waaaay too high.
Yay! another thread bump = another goal for McTom
Happy for him.
Happy for him.
Delighted for him
Score an unmarked header from a corner
Complete 17 of 30 passes
The Scott McTominay Experience ladies and gentleman.
Complete 17 of 30 passes
The Scott McTominay Experience ladies and gentleman.
So tell us what we all want to know, did McTominay make you cry ?
He is a reliable and at times even brilliant system player, as such a valuable pick once you understand (like Conte) how to use him at best… same applies to other current Napoli players, mainly Lukaku, Politano, Anguissa.
No. It was Manchester United that made me cry. He is a more than useful player who we sold for a meagre amount
Would still be our best centre forward probably.
Quality control
Agreed. McT up front for us this season would very likely get more goals and assists than those two dickheads combined.
That’s more a sad indictment of our recruitment policy than a praising of McT. A lot of us wanted him gone - me included - because we should be signing and developing better players than him.
I watched a bit in the 2nd half and every time he needed to make a pass forward, he lost the ball.
Modern day fans. See a goal and will cry about letting him go, wont talk about the chance he missed from 2 yards before that though, or watch the full 90 minutes.
He hasn't been that different to the player he was here. He's a solid player, nothing more, nothing less.
The narrative is just to shit on United whenever and ex player (or loaned out) does something.
The problem with playing Scott is that you’re playing him over over a superior football player.
He’s fairly limited in what he contributes which is getting at the end of chances and outside of that he’s just a warm body on the field.
If you’re desperate for a goal in the last 15 mins, sure Scott makes sense, but otherwise you’re better off playing a player who can do anything better than what he can do.
Why are they dickheads?
Grow up
Yeah, that’s the issue with system players, you have Hojilund from Atalanta and Zirkzee from Bologna and we have Koopmeiners from Atalanta as well. Superior players are rare, though, they cost an arm and a leg and must be really persuaded to accept difficult propositions (say, like current United or Juventus) instead of easier fit (say, like current Liverpool and Inter)?
Geez. All this because they're not as good at football as you'd like them to be...
He had way more ability and dedication than either of those. They went to Everton and Sunderland to be also rans, he went to a CL team and is one of their best players.
I'm not saying his career would have panned out the same as theirs, but that his time at United would have gone similarly. At best he'd have been a John O'Shea type. Never a starter, but around as a decent squad option for a fair chunk of his career.
Ultimately, he wouldn't have been a regular starter under Fergie because we'd have had better players in his position.
If we'd been run remotely competently he'd have had a fraction of the game time he was actually given. I like Scott and I'm glad he's doing well, but it was clear throughout his time at the club that his game was limited.
We'd still be cack with McTominay. We wouldn't concede any less chances, we wouldn't control the game better, we wouldn't create more goal opportunities (probably would score a few more, I'll give him that)
Some pretty average players got a lot of gametime under Fergie.. Cleverley, Welbeck, Silvestre, Rafael all had seasons where they were picked for every game. None of these were world beaters (Rafael maybe had the potential to be in fairness). I think McTominay would've played loads under him. Not as absolute first choice but he'd be a constant rotation and would play a majority of games. We weren't a team of superstars under him.
Nah.
A lot of his goals come from unchecked runs into the box because the defenders are occupied by the centre forwards. If he was to actually play as the centre forward himself he'd be absolutely terrible. Way worse than Hojlund and Zirkzee.
Some of you lot need to watch previous games that McTominay played for United. He was good to average in every 1 to 7 games. Nearly every other game he went hiding in our midfield.
Bingo. Collyer genuinely seems like he is better at all midfield aspects besides arriving late in the box to get a few goals.
He can actually lay off a ball to a team mate which makes him a cut above the current Hojlund at link up (which is sad), and he actually gets in half decent positions in the box which arguably makes him better than current Zirkzee. I'm not trying to overhype McTominay here and I'm glad we cashed in really, just stating that I think as a more experienced player who looks after the ball better than Hojlund and has a better instinct in the box than Zirkzee I think he might have been our best option still.
I can't believe people are using McTominay and looking after the ball in the same sentence.
Just because Hojlund is so bad does not mean McTominay will do any better, he would be just as bad in the PL.
Just because Hojlund is so bad does not mean McTominay will do any better, he would be just as bad in the PL.
Exactly. Or just go on FBRef and look at his stats comparison, pretty much every passing metric one could think of will be coloured bright red.
He's literally the same player he was at United - good at making late runs into the box and getting the odd goal, obviously strong in the air and can hit a decent cross-field ball. And that's basically it.
Napoli have found the right role for him where he can use his frame and energy to carry the ball upfield in space and concentrate on getting in the right positions in and around the box but limiting the amount of times he has to touch the ball. United can't afford such passengers in the side.
Its not even about being in the right role or not, he scored goal last season for us.
Its just that fans dont watch 90 minutes of him to see how he plays during the entire game.
Fans unless you support your own club, judge players on G/A but when they play for the club judge them on underlying stats and the good old eye test.
Revisionism still exists, he has not improved, fans just forget how crap he was on the ball.
Hence the John O'Shea comparison.
He certainly wasn't reaching Darren Fletcher levels of team importance, which was essentially the point I was responding to.
O'Shea gets so much grief. Amazing squad player - could play so many positions. Look up the Figo nutmeg and the arsenal chip.