He doesn't have busquets passing accuracy, few do. Mctominay is a casimiro or fernandinho or khedira. Break up play and recycle possession.
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His composure is fantastic. I'm not saying he's a better player than Herrera because he's obviously not right now but composure wise he's better than Herrera.
I agree but I'm not even saying Pogba level passing but just think individually he would really become a top player if he would improve on that aspect of his game. There will be some games that Pogba won't be able to play and just to have that ability to make a crossfield pass would help the ball reach our wingers much quicker than having to make short simple passes he does, it would also make him harder to anticipate. If it's something he can gain then there are only positives from it.
Have to eat my words and say he's been fecking immense when it mattered.
I think his positioning is far better than Ander's as well. Herrera often times goes charging in to a player only for that player to do a quick turn leaving Ander far behind him and our midfield exposed. Whereas with Scott, he knows exactly when to commit and when not to. A real Jose player if I've ever seen one.
I don't get the spoiler part. Is it.. doing the often unappreciative works, follows instructions and support everyone silently?
Edit: Can't see how in any way it's akin to 'spoiler'.Not really an important qs, just curiosity.
Means as in spoiling the opponent's attacks and spoiling the rhythm to the game when needed. Basically a hard working midfielder that puts an end to opponent's attacks.
“The fans they can do what they want,” Mourinho said. “I am not upset at all with that reaction [about Rashford]. But I am upset with the reaction they had with Scott McTominay. A kid of 20 years old was making all the right decisions and they wanted him to make the wrong decisions. When he decides to break the intensity of the game, it was a wonderful solution and the fans reacted against the kid. That was the bad one. To react against me, that was not the problem.”
I also groaned when he made that backwards pass because I thought we had an attack on but maybe it was the right decision. Liverpool were dominating at that point so it makes sense to keep possession and take a bit of the sting out of the game.
I also groaned when he made that backwards pass because I thought we had an attack on but maybe it was the right decision. Liverpool were dominating at that point so it makes sense to keep possession and take a bit of the sting out of the game.
My young fella was moaning at that exact moment too. I had to explain about the need to slow things down and get a foot back in the game. Tricky when you’re dealing with a massively hyped eight year old and your own nerves are frazzled as feck.
I genuinely don't remember hearing any boos... Not in my section of the Stretty at least.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention
Maybe I wasn't paying attention
Very good today.
Executed his role perfectly.
Executed his role perfectly.
It was pretty clear on tv tbh, just seemed like isolated parts of the crowd. I was mad at him for a split second before thinking he was 100% right to do what he did. It was pretty impressive tbh.
The interesting part about that specific move, IIRC, was that it was the point in the match where we literally killed all their momentum in the game and I don't think they manged to apply as much pressure as they did in the previous 20 minutes. If I am correct, then it was a brilliant decision from Scott as we kept the ball for a little while before slowing the game down and essentially killing Liverpool off.
Watching the game today, there was a quote I remember reading on here or from a journalist which I think was echoing Mourinho about how how he’s been asked to keep it simple but there’s a lot more in his locker when he’s found his feet.
I think we saw a bit of that today, he has a bit of swagger when he got on the ball and played some really good passes at times.
I think we saw a bit of that today, he has a bit of swagger when he got on the ball and played some really good passes at times.
Great performance today, especially when thrown in so late. A proper midfielder. Discovering this lad is The best thing about United this season imho.
I think his composure is really apparent even if he doesn't play penetrating passes. He rarely hoofs it up aimlessly under pressure and issue with several players in our squad.
Did very well today, I think. Made the right moves, mostly - kept cool, not least, not overwhelmed at all, looked like he belonged out there.
Anyone else notice how for the little times with first team football, he has an unfortunate knack of being on the receive end of some nasty (deliberately or not) play from different players? Weird especially as holding midfielder.
Inexperienced young players get targeted. Part and parcel of the game but he will deal with it.
That back pass was actually extremely mature from McTominay, the last thing the game needed was being end to end. The Liverpool players were not pressing effectively against our defenders at that point, that back pass led to a sustained bit of possession for us and took the sting out of the game.
I thought he was superb today and he will continue to grow. No idea why people keep shitting on him, just enjoy the ride and enjoy what he becomes and have a sense of pride in doing it. Absolutely chuffed for him to be getting rewards under Mourinho for such a maturity in development.
There was a big groan, but he did the right thing. A big part of why we were successful today was not giving the ball away too often and allowing Liverpool to break. There was nothing on so he went safety first.
There’s still a number of idiots in the Stretford End who think Fergie succeeded by being gung ho every game and instructed players to only ever pass forwards. These are the same people who tell Sanchez he is shit when he’s always forcing the pass instead of being a bit more patient at times.
Oh okay, that makes much sense. Forgot about that other reference/usage of the word "spoiler". Though it's like "spoiler of cars" or the "spoiler tag" that is common in any forums like..
..this one.
Yup, he's a nuisance to play against.
Energy, effort, fair reading of opponents movements and passes, at times always in your face, always follow you around when you're approaching his area, always try to disturb your play, discipline in doing a repetition of all these, etc. I imagine it's so annoying having him at the opposite team.He played well. Ran his legs off, tackled well and kept it simple and performed a water carrier role. My only criticism would be Scott always goes safe, he plays it square or back or short every time he gets the ball. It's not a bad thing, it's just safety first most of the time. He is young and I hope he progresses well and gets his head up and learns to look for forward passes before back passes. The defence aren't so great at passing forwards so the midfield need to do it for them. I want him to be Carrick mk2 and I believe he is well on his way. Don't know why we keep looking at Dier, McTominay is well on his way to becoming him and surpassing him.
His use of his body is stunning when you consider how late he grew into his frame. He uses his body like he has been bullying other players with his size for ages. The great part is that he is doing all of this while having a lot of room to add muscle to enhance this aspect of his game.
It should be less of an ask, but it is probably easier to get someone who focuses on doing the simple things right every time to expand their game than get the insanely talented player with concentration issues to knuckle down and focus on doing the simple things perfectly.
I'm not sure about being targeted. I think the reason is because he's just gets on the feck with it and impressively doesn't hide i.e he will go hunting, chasing, pressing, tackling for the ball etc without much second thought.
Fellani leaving in the summer could be the best thing for this kid because we potentially have a heir to the Flecther of the team,
I think you're doing a disservice to Herrera here. Not to take away from McTominay because you can't ask for more, but since joining United, in the big games and games where we've been on the back foot, Herrera's been one of the few players who could keep his composure and play football. His performance away to Liverpool last year is one of the best individual performances post Sir Alex, imo.
No need to be passive aggressive. I think people forget Cleverley put in similar performances in for us in 12/13 - especially in the beginning of the season in a midfield 3 of himself, Carrick and Rooney. He did just as well as McTominay did yesterday away to City (3-2 against the league champions), Chelsea (3-2 against the European champions) and Arsenal at home. Not to mention he was doing fine against Real Madrid before Nani's red.Luckily he'll reach Cleverley level.
This could solve a few problems for Jose in terms of who to buy this summer.
C’mon, why are people afraid to say it how it is? He’s played better than Herrera has. Herrera is honesty so overrated I can’t believe people were mentioning him being captain the past summer. He’s a bench option and been a disappointment for most parts of the season. I’ll go ahead and say it, Scott’s better than Anders. Not hating on him, he’s an effective role/bench player but just not the player some thought/think he is.
The most effective combination since Scholes and Carrick.
Starting to get the hang of Mctominay. His interceptions is becoming more prominent.
Starting to get the hang of Mctominay. His interceptions is becoming more prominent.
Based on a sample of 4-5 games, you think Scott is better than Herrera? That too when McTominay has had average games in that lot. And you find Herrera being overrated after those comments?
He seems to be tough as nails. Has this ability to attract 2 or 3 players to himself and then gets absolutely clattered, only to get up and do it all over again.
Very good point. I guess he's learning from the master. I often amazed on how Pogba could make the illusion that he's a big bully playing in playground.
Herrera was amazing for us last season. His role changed slightly this season with Matic coming in and he's struggled.
He could flourish again next season and just be one of those types of players to have up and down seasons, obviously that would mean he's not good enough for here, but at his peak he's put in far greater performances than McTominay, and I've been a big fan of McTominay since he broke through.
He is a little limited in looking for a through pass or a ball over the top but i guess what he is doing is incredible at that age and with the mindset is amazing. Andreas perreira must be kicking himself, Every squad needs a mctominay who will give a solid 6-7/10 every game. Modern day fletcher, hopefully he can grow like fletcher did and add a long shot or more adventurous passing in his game as he learns more.
Obviously he is limited in creativity but what I'll say is I personally don't even want him to be that creative. What I want from him is what I saw today, composure on the ball, simple passing to open up the play, not just passing back to the defenders the moment someone's in your face. He doesn't need to be able to create openings for others, just timely forward passing into feet and space for the forwards will make life hell of a lot easier for our attack.
I’m slowly changing my view on him, that was a tremendous performance and he showed real discipline and a great temperament. Beginning to remind me of Fletcher when he first got into the team.
The things that he is good in are hard to notice for normal fans - positioning, decision making, work rate, composure and discipline, that's why he is being criticized as a non-player all this while. He also seems to be unfazed by the big occasions, evidenced by his performances against Chelsea and Liverpool. These are attributes that are way more important to the squad instead of being the pacy, fancy, super technical flair player that most fans these days seems to only love and care about.
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