Carrick was accused of passing sideways more than any player in the club's history. Not every sideways pass is wrong either. Sometimes it makes sense.
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Ofcourse, but not during counter attack . I like Scott, tall , strong good on the ball. Just think he plays like every eye is watching him all the time.
He's so mature for his age, quite rare to see from a young, inexperienced midfielder. Needs to start doing a bit more with the ball though, and make himself available for passes more often. That will likely come with more experience and confidence though.
He is a good destroyer but a poor passer in the final third. He has been very consistent at that. He does what is expected of him and coaches love players that do that. Going forward there will be a role for him in our squad. Hopefully he develops some finesse and composure when part of the attack.
Why all the negativity? As
many of you guys say, he will probably develop to be a good squad player at best, but players like that are vital to any winning team. You don’t need 20 world class players in your team, but a team that works well together. Fergie said that a player’s mentality and temperament was more important than his footballing skills and he would know. Paul McGuiness said that McTominay is very brave and offers everything for the sake of the team. Carrick also said that the kid has taken some big steps forward this season and named him his successor. A perfectly balanced mix of world class talent and reliable and hard-working squad players was the answer to the old man’s success. McTominay has been in the club since he was a little kid. To have players who understands the club and who has true feelings for it is essensial in my eyes. Herrera has been totaly out of form this season too and he is 27 now. I would much rather let Scott have some game time.
many of you guys say, he will probably develop to be a good squad player at best, but players like that are vital to any winning team. You don’t need 20 world class players in your team, but a team that works well together. Fergie said that a player’s mentality and temperament was more important than his footballing skills and he would know. Paul McGuiness said that McTominay is very brave and offers everything for the sake of the team. Carrick also said that the kid has taken some big steps forward this season and named him his successor. A perfectly balanced mix of world class talent and reliable and hard-working squad players was the answer to the old man’s success. McTominay has been in the club since he was a little kid. To have players who understands the club and who has true feelings for it is essensial in my eyes. Herrera has been totaly out of form this season too and he is 27 now. I would much rather let Scott have some game time.
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First team for West Ham and first team for United though are completely different.
I still stand by what I said a few pages back,Most likely Loaned out next season and he will eventually leave,nothing special about the kid, will still have a nice career though.
Bit harsh but he has absolutely nothing about him. Gets dispossessed easily, doesn’t seem to have a proper eye for a pass and generally seems a bit slow. He’s only really in there for his size. Will probably be playing for Burton in a couple of years.
He has no physical presence and he's weak as anything. But his technique is incredible. Probably the must natural one-touch passer in the squad.
You sure you're in the right thread?
I am. I think you're not.
Some of the comments on here 
He was good tonight. I enjoyed his performance. Plays with bravery, energy and work rate. Keeps it simple which is normal for a player of his age coming into the first team.
He was good tonight. I enjoyed his performance. Plays with bravery, energy and work rate. Keeps it simple which is normal for a player of his age coming into the first team.
Yes Pogba is horrible at positioning at times, especially in a defensive aspect because he doesn't even bother half the time. What does that have to do with McTominay? Nothing.
On what consistent basis? What consistent basis are you judging him to have great positioning? There is none, has positioning and awareness have consistently been poor.
A regular in a PL winning side, 79 apps for us, 13 caps for England, and another 128 PL apps at other clubs currently a regular at the 11th place side and people get uptight like its a ridiculous criticism to say like Cleverley. He'll be lucky to end up with half of those numbers Cleverley has.
Some of you guys will eat some humble pies in the next few years. The kid has grit more than pogba has ever been at the club right now. If it had been pereira or gomes making the stride like he does right now. Most people will give glowing reviews no doubt.
Give the kid some time and a chance ffs, some people on here. Is he supposed to be Xavi or Zidane level already?
He's alright, nothing special, only being picked because he's 21 and big physically. Give it a few years and he'll probably just be playing for a smaller club, which is fine too.
He really wasn't. Got bullied off the ball, lost possession, and made some poor passes. I would go with naive, not brave.Some of the comments on here
He was good tonight. I enjoyed his performance. Plays with bravery, energy and work rate. Keeps it simple which is normal for a player of his age coming into the first team.
He looks like Cleverly 2.0, nothing wrong with that mind you.
Clev seems to be doing ok at Everton
Clev seems to be doing ok at Everton
Except he is at Watford.
That they are but the picture you painted of Carrick wasn’t quite the reality. He was quite highly rated from he broke into the West Ham team.
My point was that Carrick didn’t really become a great player until a little while into his Spurs career. McTominay has a few years of his career to get to Carrick levels considering he is a few years younger than a very good Carrick.
My point was that Carrick wasn’t some nobody out on loan at 21. He was a much better player than McTominay currently is.
Am sure you meant Cleverley.
McuTominay is okay without been remarkable. Players can develop surprisingly, I hope we can. We need more Youth players in the first team.
Good post. I agree
No, people really only appreciated Carrick's job toward the end (around 12/13 title season), before that, from when we first bought him, he was slated non-stop, and often for passing sideways.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/mar/11/michael-carrick-manchester-united
https://footballunitedblogs.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/the-curious-likeness-of-xavi-and-carrick-2/
This is in defense of Carrick at the time: said:
Search this forum and I'm sure you'll find many thousands of posts. Carrick was a sideways merchant to a lot of people for a long time, and an easy target after a loss or draw when insatiable Keane comparisons came in.
Not to mention the difference between 2001 and 2018.
McTominay alongside Matic could be the answer. McTominay box to box, Matic holding, Pogba left sided midfielder/winger.
Buy a world class midfielder to fill McTominay's position for a bit, until he's completely ready, and let him be understudy. Should be Herrera but I don't think he's dynamic enough.
Buy a world class midfielder to fill McTominay's position for a bit, until he's completely ready, and let him be understudy. Should be Herrera but I don't think he's dynamic enough.
Great post. In my opinion, it is very difficult to evaluate midfielders. Even Ferguson got it wrong on more than one occasion.
Some people here though appears to find it easy to write of talents that our coaching staff believe in. They have little respect for the fact that our coaching staff;
a) Have more experience in evaluating players and actually do this for a living at one of the best clubs in the world,
b) Have seen more from the players and know them better,
I’m not saying that we should not debate it. But the manner in which some do tells you more about their own apprehension than the player they are talking about.
Its also a bit interesting because quite a few seem to not appreciate the less flashy players. That is also a bit telling.
Still don't see it. Hopefully, he'll go out on loan next season and Perreira will get the chances Tommy is getting this season.
I could be wrong but, looking back at yesterdays game, it seemed as if he was torn between sitting back and pushing forward. IIRC, he's pretty much been deployed as a DM but yesterday, he was expected to do a little more work in the final third of the pitch which, I felt, had him a little lost. Much improved in the 2nd half where he'd have been given some clear instructions for Mourinho. He also seem far too honest to me, gets fouled (especially by yesterdays bastard opponent), never complains and never seems to even ask for a FK. I can't quite put my finger on it but I really like the kid and think the comfort in which he's played this season bodes well for his future.
If his name was McTominho I bet people 'would see it'.
There is a category of players that the world does not rave about early because they don't do flicks and tricks. They keep things simple and the beauty of their game is often well hidden in that simplicity. They don't give you goals, they don't assist much, they are just like the gear box in a car - committed, hidden. For a long time, some people wonder of what use they are or if they are as good as a few others think. Then one day, someone will suddenly realize their incredible value and then others will gradually catch on.
Players like Carrick, Busquet, Mikel and Khedira.
One day, Scott is going to be a great in that group. I can see it clearly in the kid.
Players like Carrick, Busquet, Mikel and Khedira.
One day, Scott is going to be a great in that group. I can see it clearly in the kid.
Think he’ll be useful to us next year. Not sure about Pereira’s United career after going out on loan.
IMO, he should have listened to Jose and stayed with us this season. He would have got plenty of opportunities to shine and make his claim for the first team. Think he has a lot of talent and should come back despite defying Jose and pushing for a loan this season. It would be a shame if he is let go because of his attitude or whatever.
I think Jose puts a lot of value on that sort of attitude though.
If he can start learning how to improve his passing range I think he will do well with us. I like him, he has the right mentality and does the basics well, he's also very composed on the ball and has got good physicality. But his passing is not expansive enough, hopefully Carrick can help him with this when he's part of the coaching staff next season.
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