he will be a very refined and quicker version of Afro man. I really like the positions he takes up in midfield
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We're probably losing Fellaini and Carrick in the summer, possibly Herrera as well so assuming we bring in only one midfielder he will get plenty of chances next year.
that's exactly what I think of him as well.
Being inexperienced, his confidence seems to be growing with every minute he plays. He makes runs, dribbles with the ball and tries to pass the tougher pass, all the while making mistakes that a youngster generally makes as it is.
I think he can be an amalgamation of Matic and Fella.
One in his time here is not bad.
Passing definitive judgment on a young Academy graduate who is just starting to feel his way through the senior league must be orgasmic for some people.
He reminds me a lot of Ryan Tunnicliffe - decent player, hard worker who has some technical ability but perhaps lacks the mental side for being a defensive midfielder, or the passing range or vision to be a United-level box to box.
Hopefully Jose can work on his understanding of the game and forge a player out of him.
Hopefully Jose can work on his understanding of the game and forge a player out of him.
Think he's a step above Tunners.
Yeah, a bit more quality on the ball, to be fair. Hopefully he has a eureka moment on the defensive side, because I think currently he is a bit off with tracking runners off him.
Agreed. That's something that can come in time so hopefully he can iron that out. He's a fairly decent tackler.
Cool.You're not somebody who understands football particularly well, then
Hopefully when McTominay gets a better rating on FM, you'll be able to see how good he is
That's hilarious. I don't even play FM anymore. My eyes can make the judgment that isn't a better passer than those players, only Fellaini I'd agree with. You keep over rating average players though, but don't laugh at Scouse fans for doing the same.
I get the feeling that's what Jose sees as well, hence so many appearances in a 3 playing mostly the same role Fellaini does, if we can't get him to sign an extension then I think McTominay will be his direct replacement in Mourinho's eyes.
he's not better than Weir, Rothwell or Pearson at their age, yet he gets game-time due to his physicality and spirit, which is two things Jose likes in his players. If he wants to make another Fellaini out of him, I am okay with that, he's young yet not the youngest but he has to play more, he won't grow if he stays and play 5 games a year, he needs proper loan and show his talent playing 30-40 games a year, the problem is he's average at everything pretty much so if there is a club to take him and give him the game time.
I don't personally rate McTominay, he's more Tunnincliffe or Cleverley at best than Lingard/ Fletcher who would develop later in their career into a key players and we shouldnt be developing a player who has a chance to be a good squadie for us, we should be developing top potential players who with limited gametime might not fullfill their potential fully yet be good players for us at worst.
McTominay is lucky because there's no other CM around in the reserves to compete with him. Willock and Redmond are just not good enough and others are a little bit too young to "be trusted" by manager for a squad role. I would personally give the game time to Ethan Hamilton, he looked very talented every time I watched him, could be developed into a great CM, just see nothing when I look at McTominay, he has D. Drinkwater potential at best and he's certainly not good enough for us, just because he end up in Chelsea doesn't make him make him the player who the biggest club should play against the likes of Barcelona, RM, PSG in the champions league
I don't personally rate McTominay, he's more Tunnincliffe or Cleverley at best than Lingard/ Fletcher who would develop later in their career into a key players and we shouldnt be developing a player who has a chance to be a good squadie for us, we should be developing top potential players who with limited gametime might not fullfill their potential fully yet be good players for us at worst.
McTominay is lucky because there's no other CM around in the reserves to compete with him. Willock and Redmond are just not good enough and others are a little bit too young to "be trusted" by manager for a squad role. I would personally give the game time to Ethan Hamilton, he looked very talented every time I watched him, could be developed into a great CM, just see nothing when I look at McTominay, he has D. Drinkwater potential at best and he's certainly not good enough for us, just because he end up in Chelsea doesn't make him make him the player who the biggest club should play against the likes of Barcelona, RM, PSG in the champions league
I don’t understand what you’re getting at here.
I’ve always seen the purpose of an Academy as to provide the club with squad players, so that transfer funds can be spent on bigger stars. Sure, occasionally you’ll develop your own star, but it would be counter productive to buy backups.
I like him. All action box to box midfielder. No stand out attributes, but looks pretty good at everything.
He seems to be developing very well. The fact that Mourinho is giving him such a lot of game time is a hugely positive indication of how highly he’s rated.
You've lost me; surely a good academy squaddie is the best value-for-money you can have? Look back through Fergies years and you will surely see the value of a solid academy graduate being an integral part of the squad?
That’s exactly what I said...
I stand hilariously and humbly corrected.
No worriesIn short we should be developing only the biggest talents, McTominay is not in the top bracket at all, if everything goes well for him he will be a squad player at best but other players might get overlooked with higher ceiling. And I agree only partly, the academy should produce players for the first team to save money on big transfers, but we should be aiming to develop only the biggest talents as the game time and chances are very limited, we are short of quality in that department so thats why McTominay got his chance.
But what we should have done is to buy a player like we did with Powell a couple of years ago, unfortunately it didnt turn out well and nobody, in the years of chaos, replaced him. It happened with Traore now but he's a bit too young to make the step up yet, and is only new to the team. Interesting will be who comes to the team in the summer. Anyway I thought McTominay's time could go to Tuanzebe who played as DM before and wouldn't look out of place there and imo will end up AT LEAST a squad player for us with an outside chance to become a starter one day.
So my problem is that we are giving the precious and limited game time to really average players instead to potential starters for our club. However McTominay got lucky again as Fellaini will leave and TFM and now Tuanzebe went out on loan, so he's got a chance to impress. Chance some players wouldn't get because of timing.
It’s like you think they’re actively trying to “just” produce average players.
They’re trying to develop top level talent, but that’s a 1 in a million event... it is just much more common to end up with players of squad level talent, and there’s nothing wrong with that as you don’t have to spend money on your bench.
Teams need reliable, loyal to the club, squad players, and if McTominay can be that, then I think that’s fantastic.
Pearson is only a "better player" because he never got to the first team. He was great for the youth teams but had some very obvious weaknesses to his game that couldn't be overcome. He had his ceiling and it was nowhere near Manchester United first team. McTominay has less of those weaknesses. Tuanzebe didn't get time in midfield, because shockingly, he's not a midfielder. There's no point keeping and playing someone in a position they won't become. He's better off on loan, same as Fosu-Mensah.
He’s 21 - I don’t really see anything special thus far. Harry Winks is also 21, and although he has done nothing to suggest he is anything other than a decent young player, he is obviously more active and involved during games.
I am a fan of bringing up talents, but not for the sake of it. Rashford had obvious talent, McTominay does not. Right now he looks like the type of player that ends up at Burnley or Stoke at best, if not the Championship. Hope he proves me very wrong though!
I am a fan of bringing up talents, but not for the sake of it. Rashford had obvious talent, McTominay does not. Right now he looks like the type of player that ends up at Burnley or Stoke at best, if not the Championship. Hope he proves me very wrong though!
Think he made a lot right decisions and ran into the right channels last game.
Lacks quality over the board when it comes to execution. Just needs to up his standard in order to be a good/great player. I have a faulty memory, but I think it's been the case whenever I've had my eyes on him before as well.
Lacks quality over the board when it comes to execution. Just needs to up his standard in order to be a good/great player. I have a faulty memory, but I think it's been the case whenever I've had my eyes on him before as well.
Thought he was bang average in his first few appearances but im starting to warm up to him. He's actually pretty good with the ball at his feet
He has enough ability to become a squad player for us but he should go on loan next season. One or even two seasons playing 30-40 matches a season will really help him grow. Maybe we can interest Burnley in a two season loan for a modest fee if he plays a certain number of games, it could be win win.
This thread is hilarious; so many people are hellbent on pegging him at a specific level, completely ignoring that he's a 21 year old midfielder.
He has good moments and bad moments; tends to start poorly and grow into the game; good physical attributes (almost always wins headers).
We are probably losing Fellaini, and the manager is preparing Mctominay to take over. This is very good for his development.
He has good moments and bad moments; tends to start poorly and grow into the game; good physical attributes (almost always wins headers).
We are probably losing Fellaini, and the manager is preparing Mctominay to take over. This is very good for his development.
At the moment he reminds me the physical gifted Cleverley. But we should still keep him for a while and let him develop and see what happen. There is nothing wrong to keep him for a squad player, it's better than spending a lot of money on players that end up moaning for first team or not good enough or average players. He's done better than I expected this season so far, I never thought he will even get some chances to play when I saw him last season against Palace.
I like a few things about him but I suppose they should come with a health warning because I haven't seen him in person yet.
1. He has good positional sense. More often than not he is in position to receive a pass or make a tackle when required.
2. He has good speed over short distances and wins most of the 5 yard foot races that he finds himself in
3. The biggest indicator of his ability for me is the speed and tempo of his passing. He hits precise, perfectly timed and firmly hit passes and he never appears rushed.
I understand that many fans want to see a player burst on to the scene and make a spectacular statement (like Angel did last Friday and good luck to him) but most top players announce themselves by consistently doing the right thing and acting in the correct manner. I think this lad has huge ability and would be delighted to see him get more chances to impress this season. I think that Mourinho believes in him too.
Still hasnt figured it out what kind/type of midfielder he is.
He's a box to box midfielder.
Big trust put in him by Jose. Come on Scott!
Big day for him. I hope he does well!
More like sending a message to Pogba and having no one else to play. Anders injured as well?
It’s still big trust in a player to play him in what is still a crucial game.
Take your chance Scott.
Its a home game against the 17th ranked team.
What’s your point? Did we not drop points to Southampton at home this season? Southampton are below Huddersfield.
Nice another league start appearance for him after the Bournemouth game, hope he performs very well and show Jose that you don't actually need to spend huge amount of money just to win a PL game.
Could be a big game for him. It could work out well to have two properly defensive mids screening the back four.
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