Said it perfectly.
Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger | We've got both baby!
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Said it perfectly.
Schneiderlin would be a dream signing for us - at the right age with good 7-8 years ahead of him, Premier league proven, strong tackler with good overall contribution, could grow with us to become even more better.
Schweinsteiger is a CL and WC winner, in fact he was a leader on those teams and we need that.
Calling Schneiderlin a 'Dream' signing is a bit melodramatic. He's a midfielder from a midtable team. He is good but he's in no way, shape or form a dream signing. Yeah, signing for United should be a dream come true for him. Thanks.
Schweinsteiger because his experience in the Champions League would be invaluable to us this season. We need to put our stamp back on that competition as quickly as possible as well. Given all he has achieved and faced in his career so far I'd imagine he'd take to the Premier League like a duck to water too. You know what you're going to get with him and they're the type of lads that's wanted now.
Wow, didn't expect to be part of the majority there...
Could not disagree more, a dream signing doesn't have to be the best XI player, Schneiderlin will be crucial for us due to him being a CM, dream signing
absolutely shocked at how one sided this vote it, people are completely over stating Schneiderlin's abilities I believe. He is a good player, not a great. Does he have room to improve, certainly.
The ideal scenario though is to have them both, we get a mix of experience with Schneiderlin's potential. Working with Carrick and Schweinsteiger would be great for him.
The ideal scenario though is to have them both, we get a mix of experience with Schneiderlin's potential. Working with Carrick and Schweinsteiger would be great for him.
I agree that both would be ideal but most people including myself are also considering their respective ages and Schneiderlin also has experience of the EPL.
If you'd have asked me a few years back, Schweinsteiger would have been my number one CM choice.
Im also not sure that schweinsteiger wants to leave Bayern. It might be that we can't have him rather then we don't want him.
We need a defensive box to box and Schweinsteiger isn't one, Guardiola used him like a running midfielder and he wasn't at his best, he is still good though, so I would take him as a competition with Carrick for the deep lying play maker role, but if I can only choose one, I will choose the midfielder who brings the physical presence.
I get that, his injuries are a worry of course. We desperately need experience though and Bastian is the obvious choice really.
I say I am surprised because the question is one or the other and I thought it would of been a lot closer.
Fitness aside, Bastian everyday.
Schneiderlin
1) Young
2) PL proven
3) Less injury prone
Getting both would just be super though
1) Young
2) PL proven
3) Less injury prone
Getting both would just be super though
Schneiderlin medical today at United...apparently.
If that's true, I hope he really lives up to the expectations of the 748 people who chose him over Schweinsteiger
If that's true, I hope he really lives up to the expectations of the 748 people who chose him over Schweinsteiger
No need to roll your eyes, people picked him because of the things Kaos said in the post above yours. Age, used to the league and less injury prone. It wasn't simply down to who is the better player.If that's true, I hope he really lives up to the expectations of the 748 people who chose him over Schweinsteiger
Well, if that were the only criteria, we'd have kept Cleverly.
You sound unhappy with this signing?Schneiderlin medical today at United...apparently.
If that's true, I hope he really lives up to the expectations of the 748 people who chose him over Schweinsteiger
Yeah because Schneiderlin and Cleverley are the same player.
Not unhappy. Not ecstatic either. In my eyes, he's a average player who looks good in a midtable team. I will support him once he signs for us but I'm still skeptical about his prowess.
No, but the criteria that Ixion pointed to apply to both.
I guess a defensive midfielder or defence minded midfielder isn't usually meant to get one ecstatic anyway. They usually perform a vital role without getting anyone off of their chairs. That's probably why people are actually happy about this rather than him becoming the next great midfielder.
For goodness sake, obviously ability is a factor and Schneiderlin is a hell of a lot better than Cleverly. Schweinsteiger is a better player than Schneiderlin but he's good enough that when you weigh other things up a lot of people can see it makes more sense to sign him. We'll get 7-8 years out of him rather than 2-3 and he's an excellent player.
I get your point. Was just pointing to the obvious flaw in the criteria you directed me towards. Was just being cheeky.
Not entirely true. Gundogan or Vidal would have gotten me ecstatic.
The majority of the fans at this point care more about the endurance of a transfer, especially a midfielder hence the poll results. Morgan brings age, potential, work rate and athleticism to the table, while Sebastian has seen and done it all and will mainly contribute with his experience for a potential 2-3 years. Schneiderlin has the upper hand in age, physicality, hunger, but in no way does that have to hint at a undervaluation of a potential Schweinsteiger transfer. Signing both would be ideal, you'll get your hands on both sides of the spectrum.
Neither of those are particularly defensive midfielders. Vidal tackles a lot but he's mostly played further forward as a Box to Box kinda player
Vidal has played as a defensive midfielder. And Gundogan is a complete midfielder akin to Carrick.
Very different players. This guy seems to be defence minded. Gundogan is a passing/playmaking midfielder who can do a bit of defending.
Vidal is a bit of everything rolled into one so fair enough he's obviously far better than schneiderlin but I'd argue that if we're looking to sign schweinstiger, Vidal would make sense, and we don't even know whether he's interested really.
Fixed that for you.
He could've been called a 'complete midfielder' before his injury problems that ruled him out of the game for what, a year? Now he's not exactly the same player he's been before and there are and will be question marks over his health, it does seem a bit strange that Bayern, United, Arsenal and Barcelona who were allegedly so eager to get him cooled their interest, no?
As for Vidal, he could've played as a CDM but it doesn't make him one. You could as well say that Herrera or even Rooney played CDM yet neither is a true CDM, akin to Schneiderlin. We could get another all-around midfielder who's great with everything and all that and still not fix our problem that occurs once Carrick is injured.
Schweinsteiger only because he's one of my favorite players and I would love to see him at United.
I think that your answer is exactly how I feel too.
Also if the transfer amounts being quoted for both I think 35-37 million are true, why not both?
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Come on he has been the top DM/box-to-box midfielder in the league and Southampton has been a very good team with very limited resources in past couple of years. His stats match any top DM in the world and he has had many outstanding performances over the recent years. Most importantly, he is the type of midfielder we have been crying out for years, and at the right age and fair price range too.
I think we'll be after Schweinsteiger even after we've signed Schneiderlin. They're different players and add different qualities to the side, preferable scenario would to have them both here which would make our midfield one of the strongest in the world.
Vidal started his career as a CDM until he developed into a box-to-box midfielder at Juventus.
Interesting. Koeman says there has been no serious bid from United for Schneiderlin.
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Koeman: No serious United bid for Schneiderlin
Amid transfer talk of a move to Manchester United for Morgan Schneiderlin, Ronald Koeman plays down the rumours.
Southampton manager Ronald Koeman has revealed the club are yet to receive a "serious bid" for Morgan Schneiderlin for Manchester United, despite speculation the midfielder is poised to move to Old Trafford.
The 25-year-old, who has been at Southampton since 2008, is being strongly linked with United, but Koeman insists recent rumours of a done deal are premature.
"We have the situation with Morgan Schneiderlin, we will have to wait what will happen," said Koeman in an interview on the club's official YouTube channel.
"Until now, we have not a serious bid for him from Man United.
"We will wait, but okay that's business that normally starts from now [the start of pre-season]. And it's no problem, it's the first day. "
Schneiderlin has represented Southampton in the top three tiers of English football, making 256 appearances for the club in all competitions.
Source: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/koeman-no-serious-united-bid-schneiderlin
46 min ago
Koeman: No serious United bid for Schneiderlin
Amid transfer talk of a move to Manchester United for Morgan Schneiderlin, Ronald Koeman plays down the rumours.
Southampton manager Ronald Koeman has revealed the club are yet to receive a "serious bid" for Morgan Schneiderlin for Manchester United, despite speculation the midfielder is poised to move to Old Trafford.
The 25-year-old, who has been at Southampton since 2008, is being strongly linked with United, but Koeman insists recent rumours of a done deal are premature.
"We have the situation with Morgan Schneiderlin, we will have to wait what will happen," said Koeman in an interview on the club's official YouTube channel.
"Until now, we have not a serious bid for him from Man United.
"We will wait, but okay that's business that normally starts from now [the start of pre-season]. And it's no problem, it's the first day. "
Schneiderlin has represented Southampton in the top three tiers of English football, making 256 appearances for the club in all competitions.
Source: http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/koeman-no-serious-united-bid-schneiderlin
Why couldn't you just post that in the Schneiderlin thread rather than bumping your own thread?
He very rarely played as a CDM at Leverkusen or for the nationalteam. At Leverkusen he sometimes even played as a number 10 in a diamond, most of the time he was used as a more attacking box to box midfielder or filled in as a fullback when necessary. He actually was Leverkusen's top scorer in 10/11 when they finished 2nd. His role in Bielsa's Chile side at the World Cup 2010 was also more that of a left sided box to box midfielder in crazy gung-ho 343ish tactics and he was constantly running up and down the pitch.
What?
I remember he initially played as a defensive mid even when he started at Juventus. And I have seen him play as a defensive mid for Leverkusen. But, yes, primarily his best contributions have come as an attacking box-to-box midfielder. But, he's a very intelligent midfielder in the sense that he positions himself cleverly when in defense mode.
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