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If you have to choose one, would you prefer United buy Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger?

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We need to go for both but if I could only pick one then it would be Schneiderlin since he's younger, played in the PL for a few years now and is proven here and he's overall a better defensive midfielder. Schweinstieger is a legend and one of the best midfielders of my generation. I would be more than happy to have him at United so yeah hopefully we go for both. They would be excellent additions to our squad :)
 
If we get both, would it be Schneiderlin or Schweinsteiger in the defensive midfield role? Schweinsteiger played most of his games last season in the centre, and he has experience on the left side of the midfield.

For me it'd be Schneiderlin in DM behind a CM partnership of Schweinsteiger and Herrera. The good thing about these midfielders is that they're pretty versatile, they can offer United a good variety of options in the middle.
 
It's not so easy as to say either Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin. It depends on what other transfers we make, for example if we get Ramos I'd be more than happy to take Schneiderlin. But if we opt for say Otamendi, I'd go for Schweinsteiger.

Basically, we need at least 1 experienced player this summer for either defence or CM. Far too many potential players.
 
iBoss said:
Carrick, Herrera, Blind, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin lets goooo
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I wonder what will happen with Fellaini if we do end up bringing in Schneiderlin and Scheweinsteiger. Is there much chance of LvG selling him for the right price? He was awesome last season but I just don't think he fit's in LvG's long term plans. I suppose we can just use him as a plan B but I doubt Fellaini would be happy sitting on the bench every week.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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I wonder what will happen with Fellaini if we do end up bringing in Schneiderlin and Scheweinsteiger. Is there much chance of LvG selling him for the right price? He was awesome last season but I just don't think he fit's in LvG's long term plans. I suppose we can just use him as a plan B but I doubt Fellaini would be happy sitting on the bench every week.
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Don't see us selling him. I admire the way he came back this season but have in my mind he should be that Plan B option rather than an automatic starter.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
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I wonder what will happen with Fellaini if we do end up bringing in Schneiderlin and Scheweinsteiger. Is there much chance of LvG selling him for the right price? He was awesome last season but I just don't think he fit's in LvG's long term plans. I suppose we can just use him as a plan B but I doubt Fellaini would be happy sitting on the bench every week.
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I think it's Carrick who would be shown the door as soon as he shows signs of aging, at least before Fellaini.
 
I'm against signing both Schwein and Schneid.

I reckon that will mean that Herrera will drop out because Van Gaal seems pretty content to play Fellaini since he offers "something different". Also I think it will mean that the young 'uns like Perreira won't get a look in.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
I'm against signing both Schwein and Schneid.

I reckon that will mean that Herrera will drop out because Van Gaal seems pretty content to play Fellaini since he offers "something different". Also I think it will mean that the young 'uns like Perreira won't get a look in.
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So we should sign nobody in midfield. Great.
 
The almost three times higher vote for Schneiderlin, in my opinion, indicates the average age of Caf members.

I'm guessing most (not all) of the votes for him are from the younger teen/pre-teen crowd who have clearly not witnessed the brilliance of Schweinsteiger.

I'd go out on a limb and say that Schneiderlin, even when he reaches his supposed upcoming "peak" won't be anywhere close to the influence, the effect, the knowledge and the prowess that Schweinsteiger would bring to the field, dressing room and training ground.

And for the love of God, 31 for a CM is NOT the end of career age. And does anyone here have stats supporting their claims that Schweinsteiger is highly injury prone now?
 
MZX7 said:
The almost three times higher vote for Schneiderlin, in my opinion, indicates the average age of Caf members.

I'm guessing most (not all) of the votes for him are from the younger teen/pre-teen crowd who have clearly not witnessed the brilliance of Schweinsteiger.

I'd go out on a limb and say that Schneiderlin, even when he reaches his supposed upcoming "peak" won't be anywhere close to the influence, the effect, the knowledge and the prowess that Schweinsteiger would bring to the field, dressing room and training ground.

And for the love of God, 31 for a CM is NOT the end of career age. And does anyone here have stats supporting their claims that Schweinsteiger is highly injury prone now?
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He missed 22 games last season, 28 games the season before that, 4 games before that and 17 before that.

If that's not injury prone then I don't know what is.

Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bastian-schweinsteiger/verletzungen/spieler/2514
 
MZX7 said:
The almost three times higher vote for Schneiderlin, in my opinion, indicates the average age of Caf members.

I'm guessing most (not all) of the votes for him are from the younger teen/pre-teen crowd who have clearly not witnessed the brilliance of Schweinsteiger.

I'd go out on a limb and say that Schneiderlin, even when he reaches his supposed upcoming "peak" won't be anywhere close to the influence, the effect, the knowledge and the prowess that Schweinsteiger would bring to the field, dressing room and training ground.

And for the love of God, 31 for a CM is NOT the end of career age. And does anyone here have stats supporting their claims that Schweinsteiger is highly injury prone now?
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^ This. Basically.

Don't get me wrong, Morgan would be a FANTASTIC signing, but I'd just about go for Bastian, for many of the reasons you've outlined above.

Of course, the best outcome here is that we get BOTH of them :devil:
 
I clearly want us to sign both. But, gun to my head, i gonna have to say schweinsteiger. His immediate impact would be amazing in my eyes. He knows LVG's style inside out and would do great in any midfield role especially at the holding mid role where he played for club and country. Schneiderlin is great and i see him as a young carrick and would be a fantastic addition but i just feel if i had to pick one i think bastian would have the greater impact for this season.
 
Difficult decision.

Obviously the Schwein is a better more experienced player. However, his injury record and Schneiderlin being settled in the UK and having Premiership experience leads me to vote for him. Being selfish it would be great if United signed both players.
 
Raw said:
He missed 22 games last season, 28 games the season before that, 4 games before that and 17 before that.

If that's not injury prone then I don't know what is.

Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bastian-schweinsteiger/verletzungen/spieler/2514
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Varun said:
Don't you think there's a difference between being injury prone and having 1 injury that keeps you out for a month or so while being fit and playing the entire year other than that?

He played every league game bar 2 since his return from injury in Nov last season.

The season before, he missed 3 straight months due to 1 single injury. Played every game before and after that.

That's not an injury prone player. That's one who's just been injured.

He had broken his collar bone the year before. Its not "spinning things", its just delving deeper and finding out why he's missed games and whether these absences have been frequent making him an injury prone player or not.

The more pertinent question is how these layoffs have impacted his performances. That's something for the regular Bundesliga watchers though.
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Quoting a post of mine from the other thread.
 
Varun said:
Quoting a post of mine from the other thread.
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@Varun Thanks for that. People are underestimating the effect of having Schweinsteiger just putting on a United jersey.

Everyone is more attracted to what's shiny and new apparently, even though it may turn out to be pretty ordinary "Made in China" stuff when you own it.
 
Both ideally, but that's not an original sentiment.

If we were only to get one I think I might have to say Schweinsteiger. His experience and class might add more to the team than Schneiderlin's attributes. We also have Carrick and Blind already in Schneiderlin's position. While there are question marks over Carrick's fitness and Schneiderlin would be a step up from Blind in that role, I think we would be enhanced more by replacing Fellaini with Schweinsteiger than Blind with Schneiderlin.

Although I'd still have reservations about spending big money (wages mainly) on an older, more established player with a big reputation after we got stung with Di Maria and, in particular, Falcao last year. And even if he was as good as he could potentially be for us, Schweinsteiger isn't a long-term fix.
 
As almost everybody has said, both would be perfect.

If we could only take one? Schneiderlin.

Schweinsteiger is a legend and the better player but durability is more of an immediate issue than quality imo. Carrick is likely in his final year and has had injury problems in recent years, so we shouldn't be as dependent on him as we clearly are. We're also very dependent on Herrera staying fit atm too.

Given how dependent we are on the fitness of those players it would really be a big risk to bring in someone else with injury issues too. Schneiderlin would be the less spectacular but more steady choice in that scenario.

If we do sign Schweinsteiger it should be as a sort of bonus, adding extra quality and competition to our midfield. If we actually have to depend on the mid we bring in then Schneiderlin is the way to go.
 
devilish said:
That's what I thought but by the looks of it things I believe that 4-2-3-1 will suit us better. First of all its more attacking minded than 4-3-3. Secondly it would put Depay, Di Maria, Mata and Fellaini in a more advanced role which suits them better, which, in turn, will mean more goals. That system would be great for United with Rooney occasionally dropping deep and Depay, Di Maria and Mata exchanging roles and cut deep in the opponents defense. Our rivals wouldnt know what had hitten them.

I believe that LVG had finally acknowledge the lack of physicality this squad had and the need for width. Schneiderlin, Carrick, Bastian and Blind would provide enough cover to win the ball and protect the defense.
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Frankly I don't see a spot for Fellaini if we sign both Schweini and Schneiderlin. We could play a variant of 4-3-3 with the 3rd midfielder pushed further. (which is what I guess you mean when you mention 4-2-3-1. Herrera could be that guy who will play the third midfielder's role and we know he's very good there.

With regards to the final third I don't believe there would be much change in the roles for the likes of Depay, Young or Mata. Maybe once in a while AdM could be used as the third midfielder but I can't be certain of that.He will definitely be pushed into the final third of the pitch though.

Interesting times ahead. The pre-season would be a good indicator on how we could line up formation wise.
 
MDFC Manager said:
We could, but LvG prefers the other variant of the 4-3-3. I.e, Carrick and Schwein/Schneid together and Herrera ahead of them.
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That would be great in my opinion. Herrera has excelled there before and he definitely has the quality to that again.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Is Schniedelin the 'one', though? Does he genuinely have the potential to be one of the world's best midfielders like Schweinstiger has been? I've never heard anyone suggest so.
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Ye im with you on this one. People tend to overrate these type of players quite easily if they managed to do fine in the BPL for a sub top club.

Remember how Joe Allen was "the english xavi" during his Swansea days?
 
My preference would be Schneiderlin. I realise he may never reach the kind of levels set by Schweinsteiger, but he's still capable of excelling at a club aspiring to win the title. He's only second to Matic as far as DM/CM hybrids in the league go, just 25 and has years of Premier League experience. In contrast, Schweinsteiger would be arriving for a similar fee, is 31, riddled with injuries and unaccustomed to the Premier League.

Ideally we'll get both though. That quality and variety we will have with our midfield options will be incredible.
 
Schneiderlin would seem to be an ideal long term replacement (for want of a better word) for Carrick, so I'd plump for him. As most others have said though, both would be ideal.
 
Rezyuz said:
Ye im with you on this one. People tend to overrate these type of players quite easily if they managed to do fine in the BPL for a sub top club.

Remember how Joe Allen was "the english xavi" during his Swansea days?
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I'm not saying he isn't right for us, but if we want to have a top midfield it may not change our need, now or I'm the future, for a top class midfielder at some point.
 
Schweinsteiger is a much more classy well rounded player. But he is now older and may be past his best. Schneiderlin is a solid performer who potentially can be even better but it's ridiculously difficult to choose between the two because bastian is older.
 
Having 2 ball playing CB's shielded by Schneiderlin could be a wonderful thing.

Either way; schweinsteiger is the exact type of player that will drill in van gaals tactics further in to the players head. After all this was a fairly average winger who became one of the best midfielders ever due to van gaal. Van gaal has already hinted at altering player positions with regards to Mcnair, Januzaj and other young players. Someone like schweinsteiger's importance cant be underestimated.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Having 2 ball playing CB's shielded by Schneiderlin could be a wonderful thing.

Either way; schweinsteiger is the exact type of player that will drill in van gaals tactics further in to the players head. After all this was a fairly average winger who became one of the best midfielders ever due to van gaal. Van gaal has already hinted at altering player positions with regards to Mcnair, Januzaj and other young players. Someone like schweinsteiger's importance cant be underestimated.
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Good points regarding the Schwein.

Looks like Morgan could be a done deal. Would be interesting to see if anyone would now be against adding the Schwein as well.
 
Schneiderlin is good but he can become great at United and playing alongside Schweinsteiger. Get them both!

Buying Schneiderlin along would be a risk, great if it pays off, if it doesn't we will be back to square one looking for Carrick replacement and going through the whole building process again and again.
 
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