Sami Khedira

Brightonian said:
All things which Vidal would do whilst being a much, much better player. Which I think was DWelbz19's point. Fair enough if you think we should get a proper DM to play behind Herrera rather than a box-to-box player to play next to him. But Khedira isn't the former, he's just a hard-working but otherwise quite shit example of the latter.
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Vidal is a different player. He is not as good as Khedira in defense and he can't play a DM at all. He is much more of attacking player a CM/AM in fact. Vidal and Ander could work as well, because Vidal does have enough power and skill to win the ball back, but it will be a quite open and attacking option. In fact, i would risk it against a top side, esp like Chelsea. But Khedira-Ander is a very good combination against your average joes and against top teams as well. As for Khedira qualities, his place in Real and in German national team speaks louder than any praise(or criticism for that matter) on the forum really.

And i don't want a true DM to partner Ander. You need to re-read my post again. I was saying that a true DM will be a waste since we will have 4 player that are almost exclusively on defensive duties. It may be okay in knock-out tournaments, but for a league it's way to defensive. United will dominate like matches against 14 teams at least. So playing 3-5-2 with a clear holding DM just would not make sense in the majority on the matches.
 
Lane said:
Vidal is a different player. He is not as good as Khedira in defense and he can't play a DM at all. He is much more of attacking player a CM/AM in fact. Vidal and Ander could work as well, because Vidal does have enough power and skill to win the ball back, but it will be a quite open and attacking option. In fact, i would risk it against a top side, esp like Chelsea. But Khedira-Ander is a very good combination against your average joes and against top teams as well. As for Khedira qualities, his place in Real and in German national team speaks louder than any praise(or criticism for that matter) on the forum really.
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Khedira isn't more defensive than Vidal. I'd say both are very similar in how they approach the game, Vidal is just better at it. Khedira's lack of positional discipline cost Germany several times and Schweinsteiger was forced to play a very strict holding role whenever they played as a midfield 2. At the World Cup in Brazil, Khedira usually played the furthest forward out of the 3 midfielders with Kroos as a CM and Schweinsteiger or Lahm as a DM. Real had similar problems with the Khedira/Alonso partnership in a 4231. However I agree that you don't need a holding midfielder in a 352.
 
Lane said:
Vidal is a different player. He is not as good as Khedira in defense and he can't play a DM at all. He is much more of attacking player a CM/AM in fact. Vidal and Ander could work as well, because Vidal does have enough power and skill to win the ball back, but it will be a quite open and attacking option. In fact, i would risk it against a top side, esp like Chelsea. But Khedira-Ander is a very good combination against your average joes and against top teams as well. As for Khedira qualities, his place in Real and in German national team speaks louder than any praise(or criticism for that matter) on the forum really.

And i don't want a true DM to partner Ander. You need to re-read my post again. I was saying that a true DM will be a waste since we will have 4 player that are almost exclusively on defensive duties. It may be okay in knock-out tournaments, but for a league it's way to defensive. United will dominate like matches against 14 teams at least. So playing 3-5-2 with a clear holding DM just would not make sense in the majority on the matches.
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I know you weren't saying we should get a DM, but some people are.

And I don't agree that Khedira can play as a DM. He does a defensive job but it's box-to-box, not sitting deep. Which Vidal does over the course of his normal game anyway. So we'd be no less solid with Vidal-Herrera than Khedira-Herrera. For games against the top sides we could just drop a striker and play Carrick behind them.
 
Brightonian said:
I know you weren't saying we should get a DM, but some people are.

And I don't agree that Khedira can play as a DM. He does a defensive job but it's box-to-box, not sitting deep. Which Vidal does over the course of his normal game anyway. So we'd be no less solid with Vidal-Herrera than Khedira-Herrera. For games against the top sides we could just drop a striker and play Carrick behind them.
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Khedira played as a DM more than enough at Real, for Anci and Mourinho.
While Khedira was far from 100%, Anci did put him as a DM in CL final and Ancelotti is not exactly an idiot. As for Khedira's defensive job, it's no exactly b2b although he can play like that as well. Yes, he does not sit deep and cover, but Busquets is not sitting back as well. For example. Bender, the Dortmund one, also does not sit deep and plays in a similar, active manner.
For me, Khedira-Ander is much more defensively sound pivot and also more balanced there is a clear DM/AM division. Ander is more creative player, more focused on passing and playmaking, while Khedira is more defensive one, more focused on pressing, winning ball back, etc.
Vidal and Ander is a more 50-50 split, the sort of same as Lampard-Gerrard.
Balu said:
Khedira isn't more defensive than Vidal. I'd say both are very similar in how they approach the game, Vidal is just better at it. Khedira's lack of positional discipline cost Germany several times and Schweinsteiger was forced to play a very strict holding role whenever they played as a midfield 2. At the World Cup in Brazil, Khedira usually played the furthest forward out of the 3 midfielders with Kroos as a CM and Schweinsteiger or Lahm as a DM. Real had similar problems with the Khedira/Alonso partnership in a 4231. However I agree that you don't need a holding midfielder in a 352.
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Khedira's "lack of positional discipline" also was the key to a 7-1 win over Brazil where he was one the best player on the pitch. As for his position, he played in DM role more than enough for Real. Vidal never played a DM, he even more likely be playing AM, even behind a forward one, than a DM, which could be seen in Chile games.
 
He near enough never played as a defensive midfielder for Real Madrid, don't have a clue why you say he did.

In the Champions League final he did because of Alonso's suspension, no other reason. He was poor but that's to be expected given his injury status at the time. Otherwise though you could count on one hand the amount of times he played as a defensive midfielder for them, and you wouldn't even need a finger to count the amount of good ones there.
 
He'd be decent for us as a 6, sitting behind Herrera, but it would be a bit of a waste. I think he'd maybe do better to sign elsewhere, where he can play as an 8 and press and link play, which are his best qualities. Any team playing a 4-3-3 could use him, basically. He'd actually be a decent signing for Barca if they're serious about playing more directly and Xavi leaves:

Neymar---Suarez---Messi (Pedro)
-----Iniesta---Rakitic------(Khedira)
----------Busquets---------(Mascherano)

looks like a really interesting front 6, and a nice compact squad with versatile players who all do different things. Only thing maybe missing is a 9 to throw on as a penalty box presence.

Or he'll go to Chelsea and play in front of Matic once Cesc infuriates Mourinho playing deeper and has to be used as a 10 with only one of Oscar, Willian or Schurrle being first choice on the right.

If there was a 3rd German team that was actually good (I thought Wolfsburg would spend money to add to their decent core of Rodriguez, Gustavo and De Bruyne but it's all Europa League level players after that) or Milan got their head out of their ass and realized they need to buy some proper footballers.
 
Lane said:
Khedira's "lack of positional discipline" also was the key to a 7-1 win over Brazil where he was one the best player on the pitch. As for his position, he played in DM role more than enough for Real. Vidal never played a DM, he even more likely be playing AM, even behind a forward one, than a DM, which could be seen in Chile games.
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Not sure what Khedira vs Brazil has to do with the discussion about him in a defensive midfield role. He played pretty much exactly like you describe Vidal's best role, an attacking box to box midfielder who did a lot of work in pressing in Brazil's half and made constantly runs inside the opponent's box. Of course he was brilliant in that game, but he was used to his strengths. I don't really care if Khedira played as a DM a few times for Real, he certainly isn't good in that role and he didn't start regularly in that position at any time during his career. I don't even remember him doing a good job as a DM when he had to help out in that role for a game or two.
 
Lane said:
Vidal is a different player. He is not as good as Khedira in defense and he can't play a DM at all. He is much more of attacking player a CM/AM in fact. Vidal and Ander could work as well, because Vidal does have enough power and skill to win the ball back, but it will be a quite open and attacking option. In fact, i would risk it against a top side, esp like Chelsea. But Khedira-Ander is a very good combination against your average joes and against top teams as well. As for Khedira qualities, his place in Real and in German national team speaks louder than any praise(or criticism for that matter) on the forum really.

And i don't want a true DM to partner Ander. You need to re-read my post again. I was saying that a true DM will be a waste since we will have 4 player that are almost exclusively on defensive duties. It may be okay in knock-out tournaments, but for a league it's way to defensive. United will dominate like matches against 14 teams at least. So playing 3-5-2 with a clear holding DM just would not make sense in the majority on the matches.
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I'm not sure that is serious.
 
Lane said:
Vidal is a different player. He is not as good as Khedira in defense and he can't play a DM at all. He is much more of attacking player a CM/AM in fact. Vidal and Ander could work as well, because Vidal does have enough power and skill to win the ball back, but it will be a quite open and attacking option. In fact, i would risk it against a top side, esp like Chelsea. But Khedira-Ander is a very good combination against your average joes and against top teams as well. As for Khedira qualities, his place in Real and in German national team speaks louder than any praise(or criticism for that matter) on the forum really.

And i don't want a true DM to partner Ander. You need to re-read my post again. I was saying that a true DM will be a waste since we will have 4 player that are almost exclusively on defensive duties. It may be okay in knock-out tournaments, but for a league it's way to defensive. United will dominate like matches against 14 teams at least. So playing 3-5-2 with a clear holding DM just would not make sense in the majority on the matches.
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Really?
 
Enigma_87 said:
I'm not sure that is serious.
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Cassidy said:
Really?
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Yes. Vidal can't really play with a AM in the two-man midfield, it will harm him, as he is a true box-to-box, who likes to get forward, in the box and score. That's why if he will play with Ander Herrera in a 3-5-2 behind Mata, they both will be forced to keep their play in check.
Khedira is not and anchorman a holding midfielder, but he is a defensive one, usually (that means in the club career) he does not get as forward as Vidal and he is much more accustomed to pressing and water-carrying than actually being with the ball near the box as Vidal. So his partnership with someone like Ander is much more balanced in terms of there is a clear DM/CM and CM/AM distinction between the two. Khedira is also much more comfortable with defending deeper rather than "enforcing". If we kind of take a look on these descriptions on a stats level, we will see that Vidal will have more tackles as he is more explosive enforcer that can get you the ball even in the opponents half or closer to the half-line, but Khedira will have much better dribbled past stats. As he prefers to defend deeper.
 
I genuinely don't think you've seen Khedira play regularly. He does everything you say he doesn't do - getting forward and getting on the ball in and around the box (without being useful) and he doesn't prefer to defend deeper.

His best asset is that he can pressure defences and win the ball high up the pitch, and his movement going forward is outstanding, often running in behind defences. On the ball he's not very good though, and he is slow to get back defensively. Basically he's a more solid but much less gifted version of Vidal, but both occupy the same areas of the pitch.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I genuinely don't think you've seen Khedira play regularly. He does everything you say he doesn't do - getting forward and getting on the ball in and around the box (without being useful) and he doesn't prefer to defend deeper.

His best asset is that he can pressure defences and win the ball high up the pitch, and his movement going forward is outstanding. On the ball he's not very good though, and he is slow to get back defensively. Basically he's a more solid but much less gifted version of Vidal, but both occupy the same areas of the pitch.
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You got it in one mate
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I genuinely don't think you've seen Khedira play regularly. He does everything you say he doesn't do - getting forward and getting on the ball in and around the box (without being useful) and he doesn't prefer to defend deeper.

His best asset is that he can pressure defences and win the ball high up the pitch, and his movement going forward is outstanding, often running in behind defences. On the ball he's not very good though, and he is slow to get back defensively. Basically he's a more solid but much less gifted version of Vidal, but both occupy the same areas of the pitch.
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Have you seen him play in CL final?
 
Lane said:
Yes. Vidal can't really play with a AM in the two-man midfield, it will harm him, as he is a true box-to-box, who likes to get forward, in the box and score. That's why if he will play with Ander Herrera in a 3-5-2 behind Mata, they both will be forced to keep their play in check.
Khedira is not and anchorman a holding midfielder, but he is a defensive one, usually (that means in the club career) he does not get as forward as Vidal and he is much more accustomed to pressing and water-carrying than actually being with the ball near the box as Vidal. So his partnership with someone like Ander is much more balanced in terms of there is a clear DM/CM and CM/AM distinction between the two. Khedira is also much more comfortable with defending deeper rather than "enforcing". If we kind of take a look on these descriptions on a stats level, we will see that Vidal will have more tackles as he is more explosive enforcer that can get you the ball even in the opponents half or closer to the half-line, but Khedira will have much better dribbled past stats. As he prefers to defend deeper.
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First of who says Vidal will play in a two man midfield? With Mata, Carrick and Herrera we have similar players in terms of roles to what he already has at Juve with Pirlo, Pogba and Marchisio. I think he'll fit in just fine.

Vidal has enormous amount of energy and can cover the spaces really fast. For example the game against Spain which is more recent he was all over the pitch. He can regain position, no question about it.

As for Khedira, I'm not sure you actually follow him at Real, but in most of the cases he's not a defensive midfielder, he usually plays in more advanced position than Alonso and most of the cases he's not even in his own half if Real are pressing high up the pitch. He tends to get into the box and it's not uncommon to have several touches in the box in many of the games. He carries the ball forward but he's not comfortable with it. As mentioned above, he can not regain position in the same sense Vidal does.

I'm not so sure about when playing for Germany but for Real
Khedira is also much more comfortable with defending deeper rather than "enforcing"
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this is simply not true.

Also when it comes to defensive capabilities, Khedira is not a patch on Vidal.

Vidal is one of the best tacklers in the game and has much better positional sense than Khedira.
 
Lane said:
Have you seen him play in CL final?
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Along with near enough every single game he's played since joining Real Madrid, yes.

I already said above, the only reason he played there was that Alonso was suspended. He was dreadful, but in this case it was probably fitness related more than position.
 
His best performance this year was the semi-finals vs Brazil, as the furthest forward in a three man midfield who was able to power and surge through the middle with great off the ball movement through constant high pressure which didn't allow Brazil to get free from their own half. It was mainly fuelled through exploiting the spaces left by the attackers seeking to freely drift into spaces. That's the sort of player he is, what he thrives at. And it isn't what we need.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Along with near enough every single game he's played since joining Real Madrid, yes.

I already said above, the only reason he played there was that Alonso was suspended. He was dreadful, but in this case it was probably fitness related more than position.
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He was not worse that most of the players on the field really, both teams played pretty dire in the 90 minutes.
Ancelotti still put him into the DM position. True enough he used to partner with Alonso, but he still played in much more defensive position than Vidal is playing at Juve. And never did he play a true box-to-box with so much attacking freedom as Vidal had.

Enigma_87 said:
First of who says Vidal will play in a two man midfield? With Mata, Carrick and Herrera we have similar players in terms of roles to what he already has at Juve with Pirlo, Pogba and Marchisio. I think he'll fit in just fine.

Vidal has enormous amount of energy and can cover the spaces really fast. For example the game against Spain which is more recent he was all over the pitch. He can regain position, no question about it.
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Vidal can play in United in a different formation, role. Sure. What i was saying is that Khedira is more of defensive player, so he will be okay in this 2-man midifeld, while Vidal as a more of a AM/CM would not.

Enigma_87 said:
Also when it comes to defensive capabilities, Khedira is not a patch on Vidal.
Vidal is one of the best tacklers in the game and has much better positional sense than Khedira.
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In respective leagues (many games).
Vidal's dribbled past: 2014 - 1.7, 2013 - 1.9, 2012 - 1.6
Khedira's dribbled past: 2014 - 0.5, 2013 - 0.8, 2012 - 0.5

That is what i am talking about. One is clearly the enforcer, pressing type. The other is while able to do that, but a much more refined defender, much harder to beat.
 
Vidal is much better at defending than Khedira, like I said some days ago, Khedira as number 6 could be a disaster imo. With a back 5 and in midfield with Herrera it could work. But Vidal is attacking and defending-wise clear better. I don't know how someone can describe Vidal as number 10, he is more a number 6 than a number 10 (in the end he is a 8) and played in this position and also as a defender in his career. Yeah he plays further up the pitch for Juve, but only because Pirlo sits deep and Vidal and his partner do the defensive work and protect him.
The dribbled past stats just show me that he is better with the ball than Khedira, who has no abilities to go past a player regularly. He is also superior in defensive stats. He is just a fecking complete midfielder, that's the reason why teams can also push him forward, because he has the skills for it, but that doesn't mean he would be wasted in a deeper role, at Leverkusen he was a beast number 6 and played as a decent fullback too, in our 3-5-2 system he and Ander would be a dream couple imo.
 
Vidal played a couple of games as sweeper in a back 3/5. Its unthinkable that Khedira could do that. They are similar kind of players, but Vidal is just better. That said Vidal´s numbers are misleading. The majority of his goals are pens.
 
Pyroblazer said:
The dribbled past stats just show me that he is better with the ball than Khedira, who has no abilities to go past a player regularly. He is also superior in defensive stats.
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Which is your shortcoming and lack of understanding in the matter, because "dribbled past" is about other players dribbling past Khadira/Vidal rather than them dribbling past other players, that is simply dribbling.
This stat show that Khedira is more accustomed to defending deeper and protecting the space rather than Vidal who is a more of a "commit a tackle anyway, if a player will pass me through, others will take care of him".
 
Lane said:
Which is your shortcoming and lack of understanding in the matter, because "dribbled past" is about other players dribbling past Khadira/Vidal rather than them dribbling past other players, that is simply dribbling.
This stat show that Khedira is more accustomed to defending deeper and protecting the space rather than Vidal who is a more of a "commit a tackle anyway, if a player will pass me through, others will take care of him".
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Ah ok my fault then, didn't look at the stats accurately enough, but doesn't change my opinion, I am not a fan of statistics anyway, Vidal is just the superior tackler and defender for me. And like I said he plays further up the pitch for Juve at the moment, that affects the stats, because he has players behind him and has to play more aggressive, but I would still play him as a number 6 above Khedira any day and week. He was fantastic at Leverkusen and already there it was obvious that he can play in different positions, they used him as fullback, LM and even as a number 10 in some games. When I just watch Germany, I always feel sorry for Schweinsteiger, because he has to do all the defensive work for Khedira, who just runs forward like a headless chicken. Some here saying he had a good World Cup, but when he showed some good things it was in most cases something going forward (Brazil made him look like Zidane), really nothing that showed me he is a great number 6.
 
Pyroblazer said:
Ah ok my fault then, didn't look at the stats accurately enough, but doesn't change my opinion, I am not a fan of statistics anyway, Vidal is just the superior tackler and defender for me. And like I said he plays further up the pitch for Juve at the moment, that affects the stats, because he has players behind him and has to play more aggressive, but I would still play him as a number 6 above Khedira any day and week. He was fantastic at Leverkusen and already there it was obvious that he can play in different positions, they used him as fullback, LM and even as a number 10 in some games. When I just watch Germany, I always feel sorry for Schweinsteiger, because he has to do all the defensive work for Khedira, who just runs forward like a headless chicken. Some here saying he had a good World Cup, but when he showed some good things it was in most cases something going forward (Brazil made him look like Zidane), really nothing that showed me he is a great number 6.
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I can't tell how he played in Leverkusen, but in Juve he never did play a DM apart from one or two odd outings maybe. He always played a box-to-box CM. And more of a CM-AM, basically out of all their midfielders Vidal is the biggest goal, which tells you that he plays further up the field than any other midfielders in Juve.

Khedira is much more accomplished defensive midfielder, because even thought he played most of hi Real career in a holding 2-man pivot, as in typical 4-2-3-1, he still played as one of two number 6s, with much more defensive responsibilities than Vidal and with much less licences to go forward as much as chilean.
And stats do support this observation.
 
Lane said:
I can't tell how he played in Leverkusen, but in Juve he never did play a DM apart from one or two odd outings maybe. He always played a box-to-box CM. And more of a CM-AM, basically out of all their midfielders Vidal is the biggest goal, which tells you that he plays further up the field than any other midfielders in Juve.

Khedira is much more accomplished defensive midfielder, because even thought he played most of hi Real career in a holding 2-man pivot, as in typical 4-2-3-1, he still played as one of two number 6s, with much more defensive responsibilities than Vidal and with much less licences to go forward as much as chilean.
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That's the problem then ;)
He was a great DM for Leverkusen, I know he plays in a more advanced role for Juventus, but you can still see his defending skills and abilities, so I don't think it would be a big issue for him to play in a deeper role again. Juve plays like that because of Pirlo and it's not surprising that a small nation like Chile puts their best individual (alongside Sanchez) in a more attacking position to influence the game (in some games, not in any game I watched from them). In Austria we also put Alaba in our midfield as playmaker, because he has more skills than any other players in our team and he can influence the game there much more than in the LB position, even if he is one of the best in the world there and miles ahead of any other LB in Austria. But like I said before Vidal is that complete and would succeed in our team in a deeper role, when we have already great number 10s and strikers in front of him ;)
And I know he scored a lot of goals, but he is Juves penalty taker too, I don't think he is anywhere as attacking as for example Yaya Toure.

And Khedira played often enough in a number 6 role, but never really impressed me there. With a back 5 imo a lot of things are possible anyway. The dutch team had some weird formations, they played with van Persie, Robben, Sneijder, Kuyt (winger as fullback), Wijnaldum (winger as CM) alltogether on the pitch and it worked for them, so I don't think a Vidal-Herrera combo would be too adventurous.
 
Pyroblazer said:
That's the problem then ;)
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That was long time ago though. I am not sure it is really that much relevant.
Pyroblazer said:
He was a great DM for Leverkusen, I know he plays in a more advanced role for Juventus, but you can still see his defending skills and abilities, so I don't think it would be a big issue for him to play in a deeper role again. Juve plays like that because of Pirlo and it's not surprising that a small nation like Chile puts their best individual (alongside Sanchez) in a more attacking position to influence the game (in some games, not in any game I watched from them). In Austria we also put Alaba in our midfield as playmaker, because he has more skills than any other players in our team and he can influence the game there much more than in the LB position, even if he is one of the best in the world there and miles ahead of any other LB in Austria. But like I said before Vidal is that complete and would succeed in our team in a deeper role, when we have already great number 10s and strikers in front of him ;)
And I know he scored a lot of goals, but he is Juves penalty taker too, I don't think he is anywhere as attacking as for example Yaya Toure.
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I think he is exactly as attacking as Toure, who also take penalties btw, Vidal scored 20 open play goals in Serie A, which is a goal very 4.8 games. While Toure has a open play goal every 4.2 games. So they are pretty much on the level. If we factor in City's attacking prowess, because they are much more attacking team than Juve is, esp this year, the numbers will probably even be swung in Vidal's favor. But still more or less in the same bracket they are.
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And Khedira played often enough in a number 6 role, but never really impressed me there. With a back 5 imo a lot of things are possible anyway. The dutch team had some weird formations, they played with van Persie, Robben, Sneijder, Kuyt (winger as fullback), Wijnaldum (winger as CM) alltogether on the pitch and it worked for them, so I don't think a Vidal-Herrera combo would be too adventurous.
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They always had De Jong though, except Costa Rica.
And i am not saying Vidal can't work in United team. I just think that in this exact formation with Ander and Mata his skills usage and appliance will be extremely limited. I mean we will have 3 players that like to score from midfield, go forward, like to tackles opponent in the final third (Mata did it at Chelsea in 12-13), no balance at all. Could it work? Maybe, who knows, it is a formations with 3 CB, so there is additional cover and Lampard-Gerrard did works in some odd occasions, so maybe. But i do believe that with a much more defensively-minded Khedira this exact formation/set-up will be more balanced and refined.

As for whether Khedira impresses or not, i don't know. The guy played in Real team regularly and they won a league with him, they was in CL semis, a pretty solid club career he has i'd say.
 
When I heard he supposedly signed for Arsenal a few weeks ago, I thought there was nothing much that could be done. However, since he's still available because of his wage demands, I'm starting to strongly believe he's worth more of a punt than waiting for both Vidal and Strootman to be fit enough to build up Louis' dream midfield. It's not about ditching the 2 other players, but it's rather about signing someone who has that kind of recent winning experience to help us immediately while we know he's fit. Of course, we can always sign Vidal and/or Strootman in the mix if that happens (to be discussed in their respective threads if you want to). Still, I would also be happy if we give a genuine try to sign Khedira.

What do you say? He's quite a very intelligent midfielder who knows when to go forward while willing to do the dirty job in front of the Ds. Of course, we all know that playing for club is different from playing for his country. Nevertheless, he's a solid option in reinforcing our midfield if we want it.
 
I think he'd be a super signing and would immediately improve the midfield which is what Van Gaal has said we are finding difficult - getting players to improve us

Certain irony in us signing the players reputedly identified by Moyes last summer (we bid for Herrera and Khedira?)

Overall he is a very strong midfield player and a snip at 20 million
 
Would be a decent signing but wouldnt want to spend too much on him. He is a level or two below Vidal.
 
Rumors are that Sami want's to run down his contract and sign for free elsewhere next season.
He was told he will be benched for the entire season if he doesn't renew or leave this summer.
 
Khedira would be a quality signing. He's a great player, and apparently a great character to have in the dressing room.
 
Kakeru said:
What do you say? He's quite a very intelligent midfielder who knows when to go forward while willing to do the dirty job in front of the Ds. Of course, we all know that playing for club is different from playing for his country. Nevertheless, he's a solid option in reinforcing our midfield if we want it.
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That's really not his role, and it isn't something he's best utilised for. His best role is exploiting the free space in an advanced box-to-box position with his physicality and high pressing. He is better than most of what we have but I do not think he'd be a good signing, personally.
 
Kakeru said:
When I heard he supposedly signed for Arsenal a few weeks ago, I thought there was nothing much that could be done. However, since he's still available because of his wage demands, I'm starting to strongly believe he's worth more of a punt than waiting for both Vidal and Strootman to be fit enough to build up Louis' dream midfield. It's not about ditching the 2 other players, but it's rather about signing someone who has that kind of recent winning experience to help us immediately while we know he's fit. Of course, we can always sign Vidal and/or Strootman in the mix if that happens (to be discussed in their respective threads if you want to). Still, I would also be happy if we give a genuine try to sign Khedira.

What do you say? He's quite a very intelligent midfielder who knows when to go forward while willing to do the dirty job in front of the Ds. Of course, we all know that playing for club is different from playing for his country. Nevertheless, he's a solid option in reinforcing our midfield if we want it.
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Christ, that sounds rough.
 
He has refused to sign a new contract and Real don't want him to leave on a free next summer apparently. Only Arsenal and Chelsea interested is what comes from the media. I'm not a big fan of him, but he'd certainly be a good addition to our squad. Supposedly Real want about 20M for him.
 
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