a fecking monster. I hate it so much he plays for City. I've got no problem with Saka, but Foden grinds my gears, which is a proof he's class.Bit of karma for those in here who were intent on downplaying Phil's ability.
Play him in his best position consistently and this is what he does. In big games no less.
Joe Cole.Foden is so good in tight areas, I cannot remember the last English player who was that good at it.
Cole, Rooney? More that the teams (both domestic and national) don’t really develop that type of player. Even think of someone like Le Tisser or Hoddle.Foden is so good in tight areas, I cannot remember the last English player who was that good at it.
Maybe but I don't he was as good as Foden.Joe Cole.
Rooney wasn't that good in close spaces like that, and yea we don't value it enough.Cole, Rooney? More that the teams (both domestic and national) don’t really develop that type of player. Even think of someone like Le Tisser or Hoddle.
Young Rooney had a beautiful touch and quite a low dribbling style. I think he could have developed into a more European ten if we played that way.Rooney wasn't that good in close spaces like that, and yea we don't value it enough.
It's the whole running and controlling the ball at speed that's crazy with himFoden is so good in tight areas, I cannot remember the last English player who was that good at it.
His ability to control, turn, move, shoot/pass, hes just so quick and natural at it.It's the whole running and controlling the ball at speed that's crazy with him
Young Rooney was my fav, and I agree, but I don't think he quite had what Foden does. Obviously Rooney was a lot better at other things.Young Rooney had a beautiful touch and quite a low dribbling style. I think he could have developed into a more European ten if we played that way.
The answer is BellinghamWhat about Foden vs Musiala vs Wirtz?
Foden isn’t that young (23) compared to when Rooney came through. He moved here at 18. Foden at 18 wasn’t really up to much but the 5 years since he’s been trained by the same coach, in the richest and deepest team with the best facilities and broadly similar system.Young Rooney was my fav, and I agree, but I don't think he quite had what Foden does. Obviously Rooney was a lot better at other things.
At 19, Rooney would have started for almost any team in Europe bar maybe, maybe 2006 Barcelona. He had so much more talent than Foden.Young Rooney was my fav, and I agree, but I don't think he quite had what Foden does. Obviously Rooney was a lot better at other things.
I am not saying he didn't, he had more, but in this one area, I think Foden was better.At 19, Rooney would have started for almost any team in Europe bar maybe, maybe 2006 Barcelona. He had so much more talent than Foden.
True, but one of the reasons was that Rooney was physically developed as a full grown man at birth.Foden isn’t that young (23) compared to when Rooney came through. He moved here at 18. Foden at 18 wasn’t really up to much but the 5 years since he’s been trained by the same coach, in the richest and deepest team with the best facilities and broadly similar system.
Obviously I don’t think anyone thinks he has the same talent as Rooney had but it’s an interesting scenario of imagining the type of player Wayne would have been had he gone to a possession heavy team and been earmarked as a 10.
Yeah he was a freak. Nothing taken away from Foden either, very good player, probably our best player now in tight spaces is young Mainoo.True, but one of the reasons was that Rooney was physically developed as a full grown man at birth.
Which is?Play him in his best position consistently and this is what he does. In big games no less.
Inside forward who can occupy half spaces with other players providing width on both sides maybe?Which is?
From a heat map he played as the right forward(and was City's widest player on the right), but closer to the half space than staying wide, yeah. Kinda in between a wide forward and an inside forward. Haven't seen the game so can't comment for his role thoughInside forward who can occupy half spaces with other players providing width on both sides maybe?
He had a good chance running down the right channel (maybe should have squared it to Erling), his second goal was from the left channel, first was cutting in from the right. Having Walker there helps him more than having someone like Lewis who inverts and forces him to go wide. Similarly when Doku is there to keep width on the left, or KDB who did that at times, he's free to receive the ball between the fullback and centreback and turn towards goal, and that's where he's really deadly.From a heat map he played as the right forward(and was City's widest player on the right), but closer to the half space than staying wide, yeah. Kinda in between a wide forward and an inside forward. Haven't seen the game so can't comment for his role though
Agreed, people using this (or any City player performance vs United in the last 10 years) as an argument for a City player's ability in big games.. that's misplaced. Let's see what Foden does at Anfield. I think it will be nothing.We had 20% possession and 1 shot on target. Felt like less of a ‘big game’ than Man City playing any other team at home in the PL
I really don't think England has the right personnel for Foden. The other 2 are fine but Maddison, Graelish or Rashford would probably be better options than Foden for EnglandWhen I watch foden and saka along with what Bellingham is doing in Madrid, it's a shame England are going to throw away our best chance of winning the euros by having southgate still in charge, any manager in the world would be drooling about having the attacking and midfield options we currently have but southgate will screw it right up
Agreed, people using this (or any City player performance vs United in the last 10 years) as an argument for a City player's ability in big games.. that's misplaced. Let's see what Foden does at Anfield. I think it will be nothing.
It's the good old 'next game is the first real test' brigade. Happens when there's a mental block.Why? He's scored three times against Liverpool before.
Why? He's scored three times against Liverpool before.
Y'all simply refuse to admit its your center defensive and deep midfield options that hinder you. Not your coaching. You don't win international football trophies emulating Brazil 1982 by strictly relying on your attacking prowess.When I watch foden and saka along with what Bellingham is doing in Madrid, it's a shame England are going to throw away our best chance of winning the euros by having southgate still in charge, any manager in the world would be drooling about having the attacking and midfield options we currently have but southgate will screw it right up
Y'all simply refuse to admit its your center defensive and deep midfield options that hinder you. Not your coaching. You don't win international football trophies emulating Brazil 1982 by strictly relying on your attacking prowess.
When's that happened? In tournaments I meanif Southgate can't get acceptable performances out of Rice and Stones, it definitely is the coaching that's the problem.
Y'all simply refuse to admit its your center defensive and deep midfield options that hinder you. Not your coaching. You don't win international football trophies emulating Brazil 1982 by strictly relying on your attacking prowess.
We have rice, one of the best in the world in his position. And stones who is also excellent. We have about a million decent to world class full backs. The only question mark is the other CB spot and GK. The rest of England's first eleven is ridiculously strong.
We don't have a midfielder who can dictate play at all, there is such a gap between defence and attack.We have rice, one of the best in the world in his position. And stones who is also excellent. We have about a million decent to world class full backs. The only question mark is the other CB spot and GK. The rest of England's first eleven is ridiculously strong.
