Give me all the matches where he looked like a £25 million player
Ryan Sessegnon
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Give me all the matches where he looked like a £25 million player
If that’s really the case then I’m all for it. I just haven’t really heard any of the buzz so don’t know if it’s like I mentioned before hype due to him being English. Like there’s a difference between being a top player in your position in the world vs good enough to work in England. If it’s the latter I’d prefer to pass and go for a sure thing and straight away impact player like Sandro. Not a knock on the player, more so tired of United spending so much money on not so sure players. Like it’s genuinely appalling and going forward I prefer if they change that and make the most out of their money that’s all.
I think if the kid’s good enough as you say to be first choice LB beginning next season then I’m all for it. However if he wouldn’t start then no point and rather use the money on someone that will. Not against developing players but United and José will be in a compete/win now mode next season and won’t have the time to go on another season without properly addressing the LB position. At least that’s the vibe I’ve gotten.
Ah I see makes sense. I honestly don’t know much about this player like I’ve said but if we get him and he’s not a starter by next season it’s where I’ll be ticked off because we could’ve got a sure thing in Sandro. It’ll be another case of United having settled for less. Then again I’m assuming these rumours are for the January window and if that’s the case he’d have a good amount of time to adjust and convince José he’s the real deal. It’s just that the LB buy will be a 1 time buy so if it turns out the guy isn’t good enough and doesn’t start regularly next season, we’re kinda stuck with what we got. Obviously I’ll root for the guy and hope he works out for us if we get him, just concerned bcuz we cannot screw things up heading forward as there’s been far too much of that since SAFs departure. I just want to see a world class United side again that’s all
Mate he is 17! Do you understand how transfers work?
This is what I don’t quite get. If he’s as good as people say he is for his age and all, why is the price only £25M considering he’s English which EPL teams would generally overpay to get anyways + he’s of top quality.? £25M is dirt cheap when looking at the transfer market so I hope you can see why I’d question/think he’s maybe not as good as people say he is and just overhyped because of his nationality. Would appreciate if you could shed some light on that to bring me up to speed as I’m sort of confused since it seems sort of contradictory.
Also, do you know what his style of play is and any glaring strengths/weaknesses about his game and possibly any highlight videos of his to share (preferably match game videos as anyone can put together highlight packages)?
Yes he's 17 and playing in the championship. Do you know what money is?
Sorry don't quite follow.
Plenty on you tube....
He is reasonably quick, excellent dribbler and can play anywhere on the left side. Great long shot and is putting in great assist number for such a kid. He is quite small so would need to work on that and his crossing could improve, sorry its quick but im for bed.
Saw some of the game this morning, he really looks a player. I am not sure if pushing in somebody behind Shaw with little experience is the right way to go, trust Jose though. I would get him for sure.
What exactly is his position? Seems to be playing a lot forward for an LB
Also, his cutbacks seem pretty good
I saw 3-4 of Fulhams matches last season - mainly to see how Stefan Johansen is doing - and Sessegnon looks quality. I have no problem with us putting a lot of money on the table to sign him. Is it a gamble ? Sure - but not a very big gamble
He is just 17 and with plenty of years to improve. When you buy young player you don't pay the money for a finished product, it's for what he might become. That's the reason SAF paid 12 Million for Ronaldo when many thought we overpaid.
I'd be more than happy with this signing. I'd loan him back to Fulham for the rest of this season, and then a championship side looking for automatic promotion next year.
Hopefully by that point he'd be ready for a mid-table premier league side or if the side he went to got promoted back there for another year before transitioning to United around 20-21 with lots of first team football under his belt.
Hopefully by that point he'd be ready for a mid-table premier league side or if the side he went to got promoted back there for another year before transitioning to United around 20-21 with lots of first team football under his belt.
The England 2000 age group is the best in the world, as was proven by winning the WC this summer, beating Germany 8-1 last year etc.
https://www.trainingground.guru/art...t-young-players-in-world-monchengladbach-boss
Scouts around the world know it too. Sessègnon is arguably the best player from that group, it is no secret. Anyone who knows anything about youth football knows that he is one of the best 17 year olds in the world.
He costs £25m reflective of the market and his potential. He doesn’t cost £100m because not all players develop to their potential, as is proven through history.
Yeah, you've got to remember that he is from Angel Gomes' generation of English talent. It's a really talented generation and he is one of the premier talents from that generation. We know how much talent Gomes and Foden have so anytime you can get another talent from that crop, you should do it. He doesn't get to play with that group because he's ahead in his development and yet that group of English talent still went on to win the u17 world cup (without Sancho) and take 2nd to Spain through penalties. Everyone who follows youth football knows it's a special generation and that those international tournament performances were a mere formality unlike say sides who get hyped up as a golden generation due to that 1 tournament performance. That generation isn't one of those sides.
I would imagine he gets loaned out to give him playing time if Shaw continues to convince that he still has a role to play at United.
I would imagine he gets loaned out to give him playing time if Shaw continues to convince that he still has a role to play at United.
He's played mainly as a winger, he came through as a LB for the team, but hasn't particularly played there that much.
EDIT: Turns out he does play LB but my Fulham pal said he's hardly ever there and shit at defending, so should be a winger.
Do you ever not try and be contrary?
Sessegnon is not a LB! End of
You clearly don't but appear to provide an 'informed,' opinion as to why we shouldn't. Perhaps doing your research first before questioning his ability.
Eh? Shaw was the best defender in the league when we signed him, and even now his talent isn't really debatable, only his injury.
He wouldn't be signed because he is English, but being English is an undeniably positive aspect when looking at potential players. There's a lot more to a signing than purely footballing ability. Language barriers, culture shock and having exposure to the type of football played in this country all count greatly.
Why was Alli only 5 million?
Someone who knows his play told me he's a bit like Bale when he was coming through at Spurs
Right, but normally you dont make an expensive signing from a lower league for a player who has a lot to prove. Sir Alex baulked at signing Pato for a high fee when he was a youngster too
Signing him and expecting him to live up to it is a big gamble. Many young players dont live up to anything close to their potential. In fact most dont. We signed Shaw after he had played full seasons in the Premier League at 17/18 and then went on to be in the team of the season. Thats when we spent big on him. If he was playing in the championship things would have been different
That's what I'd heard too.
It's a ridiculous assertion that he's shit at defending. Hes's 17/18. Bale wasn't great at defending either but developed into a great forward. Our own Ashley Young was an attacking midfielder and is now a defender.
Players develop
Depends on who expects him to live up to it. Jose doesn't have an issue with signing young players but letting them develop elsewhere. He could do what we did with Smalling;let him stay at Fulham for the season and join us in pre season. I don't think it's a gamble at all
He's playing more advanced lately, almost an inside forward/winger. Thing that I noctice about him is he always seems to get himself in good positions off the ball.
Has an eye for goal with that positioning. Very intelligent footballer
Works both ways. Verratti played in Serie B but he was very highly rated, PSG signed him from Serie B and he played 27 league games in the first season. If not for PSG, Juventus would have signed him. Some times talent is very obvious, I haven't watched Sessegnon play but just going by the reports of highly he is rated and how good his performances are, it won't be surprising if some teams makes a big money move for him.
He plays anywhere on the left flank. Fulham use him as a LB 90% of the time but England used him as a LW/ILF at the under 19 Euros in every game, he made team of the tournament in that position, despite only just having turned 17.
I think he will end up as an attacking left sided player, simply because he is such a good goalscorer. He isn't a particularly exciting player in that position like Sancho or Hudson Odoi, if he isn't scoring he can look underwhelming in comparison.
I’m not sure Utd is right for him at this moment in time. Too much pressure given expectations on Utd to challenge for the title and given our lack of genuine width, I fear too much would be expected of him.
That said, he’s exactly the type of player SAF would have went for when strengthening from the top. JM also has good relations with Fulham so I think there is something in this link. Looks a good talent.
That said, he’s exactly the type of player SAF would have went for when strengthening from the top. JM also has good relations with Fulham so I think there is something in this link. Looks a good talent.
I know what you mean It depends if we give him a loan plan. He should go back to Fulham for the rest of the season but next year he needs to make the step up to a lower PL level IMO. If we offer him that pathway then I can't see a problem with it but him playing for our first team next year could be more of a hindrance than a help.
25m is the new 10m. Even if he fails at OT we would still recoup most of the money. I'd say we should sign him up.
It's not a ridiculous assertion when he's playing as a defender and pretty much everyone I know thinks he should be playing as a winger. Bale is probably the best example of why he should be pushed forward.
I’d like us to sign him - talented kid and we should always be in for the top British prospects.
Something about it screams Spurs though.
Something about it screams Spurs though.
They didnt sign him for £25 million though. They paid less than half of that, not much more than we paid for Bebe
At a low price you take the gamble. At the highest price ever paid for a Championship player by a large margin thats not a smart gamble.
Spending £25 million and not improving the team is not what we need to be doing right now. If we're paying that kind of money it needs to help us get some points on the board. If he was bought for much less then yes of course loaning him out while he develops makes sense
12 Million in 2012, this is 2018. Prices have gone up with all the new TV deal and how the market has changed.
Come on Ekeke, you are having an absolute nightmare in here. Who are you going to buy for £25m that improves the team? You are five years in the past.
You think that every player in the team is performing at a £25 million or above standard?
Who do you think we are?
Lets starts with the CBs. None of them would get us £25 million. Ashley Young? Valencia? Of course not.
Matic and Pogba yes. Ander and and Fellaini? No.
Mata? Miki? No.
Martial and Rashford? Possibly. Lukaku? Yep
So of course we can improve the team with £25 million and its ridiculous anyway because that money can just as easily be used along with other money and be £25 million more than whatever the fee we pay.
I mean, Michael Keane went for £30m last summer and he's been utterly hopeless. <£30m doesn't guarantee you quality these days.
It doesnt need to. Someone who can come in when someone else is out of form helps us a lot more than a player out on loan
We could bring him in and keep him around the team, doing just that. I rarely believe these buy and loan rumours. They don't make much sense for us.
Then again I don't think we'll be buying anyone this January, so I'm viewing it from a summer 2018 point of view.