Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney | Wrexham AFC Watch

[next_number_seven]

They're getting at least a playoff for sure. In with a decent shout of automatic promotion. Late drama in most of their games. Wonder if they'll get a big signing in Jan to see them over the line.

They're guaranteed a playoff spot.

They've a pretty strong squad also so I think they'll remain top 3 or 4 til the end of the season.

 

[SteveCoppellFan]

Keep conceding late goals.

Still think this manager will not take them any further, his tactics are pretty basic and League One is pretty much his ceiling imo.

Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!

 

[Sandikan]

Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!

Probably worth pointing out that they've played 13 of their 23 at home, and it's their home record keeping them so high right now.
Much less strong away.

 

[Gavinb33]

Probably worth pointing out that they've played 13 of their 23 at home, and it's their home record keeping them so high right now.
Much less strong away.

I'd have a guess that most clubs at that level rely on the home form more as the league is really competitive

 

[Chipper]

Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!

There is a sort of FFP in League One and Two. I don't know how it pans out in reality but it looks more restrictive than the Championship on paper.

They call it SCMP, the salary cost management protocol. For League Two it's no more than 50% of a club's turnover to be spent on player related expenditure (wages and transfer fees), in League One it's 60%. There are certain things that count towards turnover, certain things that are exempt.

All that goes out of the window in the Championship under P&S (profit and sustainability). There's loss thresholds where clubs are allowed to lose a fixed amount rather than it being based on a percentage turnover. It's really complicated, reported over a rolling period and teams relegated from the Premier League get a little more leeway as it's assumed they'd be carrying a higher wage bill that they couldn't otherwise cut in time. It's probably why we end up with a lot of yo yo teams like Burnley, Sheff Utd etc. especially when you add in their parachute payments.

I think a club newly promoted to the Championship can incur greater losses in terms of number of pounds they could lose in League One typically speaking. The problem is they'd be going against teams with larger stadiums when it comes to matchday income, and larger commericial deals than they're currently facing in League One who are all allowed to lose the same fixed amount.

Still, it seems possible to take a smallish club all the way to the PL. Weren't Bournemouth backed by Russian investment? Not sure of the exact rules at the time though and if they had to comply to certain regulations or not. Still, they only have a 12k stadium and it didn't stop them. They're not historically popular so wouldn't have had the commercial deals of Sunderland, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday etc. Wrexham probably have more commercial income than Bournemouth did at the time. Luton did it too with another similar sized ground to Wrexham, and I don't think they even broke the bank too much, not sure though.

 

[Sandikan]

There is a sort of FFP in League One and Two. I don't know how it pans out in reality but it looks more restrictive than the Championship on paper.

They call it SCMP, the salary cost management protocol. For League Two it's no more than 50% of a club's turnover to be spent on player related expenditure (wages and transfer fees), in League One it's 60%. There are certain things that count towards turnover, certain things that are exempt.

All that goes out of the window in the Championship under P&S (profit and sustainability). There's loss thresholds where clubs are allowed to lose a fixed amount rather than it being based on a percentage turnover. It's really complicated, reported over a rolling period and teams relegated from the Premier League get a little more leeway as it's assumed they'd be carrying a higher wage bill that they couldn't otherwise cut in time. It's probably why we end up with a lot of yo yo teams like Burnley, Sheff Utd etc. especially when you add in their parachute payments.

I think a club newly promoted to the Championship can incur greater losses in terms of number of pounds they could lose in League One typically speaking. The problem is they'd be going against teams with larger stadiums when it comes to matchday income, and larger commericial deals than they're currently facing in League One who are all allowed to lose the same fixed amount.

Still, it seems possible to take a smallish club all the way to the PL. Weren't Bournemouth backed by Russian investment? Not sure of the exact rules at the time though and if they had to comply to certain regulations or not. Still, they only have a 12k stadium and it didn't stop them. They're not historically popular so wouldn't have had the commercial deals of Sunderland, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday etc. Wrexham probably have more commercial income than Bournemouth did at the time. Luton did it too with another similar sized ground to Wrexham, and I don't think they even broke the bank too much, not sure though.

You're not right with this. It's the opposite way round. The championship is more restricted than leagues 1 and 2.

Which is why you see loads of championship clubs getting into shte and you have ludicrous scenarios like Birmingham able to buy a player for 15million up front in league 1!! (Going up to 20m with a separate sell on too!).

Owner input / football "fortune" apply in leagues 1 and 2.
Which is why you can still buy your way to promotion through these leagues yet you find you can have a problem in the championship if you've not got the crowd and revenue to back it up.

 

[Sandikan]

Big gameweek for the top of league 1.
Birmingham dropped points drawing at Stockport, Huddersfield had their touch away at Wigan called off.

My boys Wycombe pulling dropped points out of the mire with a 94th min pen winner (actually was a handball, unlike one Wrexham got recently that hit someone's back!!!!) and Wrexham with more dropped away points.