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They're getting at least a playoff for sure. In with a decent shout of automatic promotion. Late drama in most of their games. Wonder if they'll get a big signing in Jan to see them over the line.

They're guaranteed a playoff spot.

They've a pretty strong squad also so I think they'll remain top 3 or 4 til the end of the season.
 
Keep conceding late goals.

Still think this manager will not take them any further, his tactics are pretty basic and League One is pretty much his ceiling imo.
Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!
 
Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!
Probably worth pointing out that they've played 13 of their 23 at home, and it's their home record keeping them so high right now.
Much less strong away.
 
Maybe I should have worded this better.

He could very well get Wrexham promoted this season, they look a good bet for the play offs at least.

But surely he would get found out in the championship ?

As someone has already mentioned, its ok to throw money about in the lower leagues as there is no FFP etc but i'm pretty sure that kicks in in the championship.

Maybe im being tough on the guy but his tactics and this current squad would really struggle if they got promoted.

Still hope they do though !!

There is a sort of FFP in League One and Two. I don't know how it pans out in reality but it looks more restrictive than the Championship on paper.

They call it SCMP, the salary cost management protocol. For League Two it's no more than 50% of a club's turnover to be spent on player related expenditure (wages and transfer fees), in League One it's 60%. There are certain things that count towards turnover, certain things that are exempt.

All that goes out of the window in the Championship under P&S (profit and sustainability). There's loss thresholds where clubs are allowed to lose a fixed amount rather than it being based on a percentage turnover. It's really complicated, reported over a rolling period and teams relegated from the Premier League get a little more leeway as it's assumed they'd be carrying a higher wage bill that they couldn't otherwise cut in time. It's probably why we end up with a lot of yo yo teams like Burnley, Sheff Utd etc. especially when you add in their parachute payments.

I think a club newly promoted to the Championship can incur greater losses in terms of number of pounds they could lose in League One typically speaking. The problem is they'd be going against teams with larger stadiums when it comes to matchday income, and larger commericial deals than they're currently facing in League One who are all allowed to lose the same fixed amount.

Still, it seems possible to take a smallish club all the way to the PL. Weren't Bournemouth backed by Russian investment? Not sure of the exact rules at the time though and if they had to comply to certain regulations or not. Still, they only have a 12k stadium and it didn't stop them. They're not historically popular so wouldn't have had the commercial deals of Sunderland, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday etc. Wrexham probably have more commercial income than Bournemouth did at the time. Luton did it too with another similar sized ground to Wrexham, and I don't think they even broke the bank too much, not sure though.
 
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There is a sort of FFP in League One and Two. I don't know how it pans out in reality but it looks more restrictive than the Championship on paper.

They call it SCMP, the salary cost management protocol. For League Two it's no more than 50% of a club's turnover to be spent on player related expenditure (wages and transfer fees), in League One it's 60%. There are certain things that count towards turnover, certain things that are exempt.

All that goes out of the window in the Championship under P&S (profit and sustainability). There's loss thresholds where clubs are allowed to lose a fixed amount rather than it being based on a percentage turnover. It's really complicated, reported over a rolling period and teams relegated from the Premier League get a little more leeway as it's assumed they'd be carrying a higher wage bill that they couldn't otherwise cut in time. It's probably why we end up with a lot of yo yo teams like Burnley, Sheff Utd etc. especially when you add in their parachute payments.

I think a club newly promoted to the Championship can incur greater losses in terms of number of pounds they could lose in League One typically speaking. The problem is they'd be going against teams with larger stadiums when it comes to matchday income, and larger commericial deals than they're currently facing in League One who are all allowed to lose the same fixed amount.

Still, it seems possible to take a smallish club all the way to the PL. Weren't Bournemouth backed by Russian investment? Not sure of the exact rules at the time though and if they had to comply to certain regulations or not. Still, they only have a 12k stadium and it didn't stop them. They're not historically popular so wouldn't have had the commercial deals of Sunderland, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday etc. Wrexham probably have more commercial income than Bournemouth did at the time. Luton did it too with another similar sized ground to Wrexham, and I don't think they even broke the bank too much, not sure though.
You're not right with this. It's the opposite way round. The championship is more restricted than leagues 1 and 2.

Which is why you see loads of championship clubs getting into shte and you have ludicrous scenarios like Birmingham able to buy a player for 15million up front in league 1!! (Going up to 20m with a separate sell on too!).

Owner input / football "fortune" apply in leagues 1 and 2.
Which is why you can still buy your way to promotion through these leagues yet you find you can have a problem in the championship if you've not got the crowd and revenue to back it up.
 
Big gameweek for the top of league 1.
Birmingham dropped points drawing at Stockport, Huddersfield had their touch away at Wigan called off.

My boys Wycombe pulling dropped points out of the mire with a 94th min pen winner (actually was a handball, unlike one Wrexham got recently that hit someone's back!!!!) and Wrexham with more dropped away points.
 
You're not right with this. It's the opposite way round. The championship is more restricted than leagues 1 and 2.

Which is why you see loads of championship clubs getting into shte and you have ludicrous scenarios like Birmingham able to buy a player for 15million up front in league 1!! (Going up to 20m with a separate sell on too!).

Owner input / football "fortune" apply in leagues 1 and 2.
Which is why you can still buy your way to promotion through these leagues yet you find you can have a problem in the championship if you've not got the crowd and revenue to back it up.
I remember my dad saying years ago that he started watching non league Yeovil and said they where going places.

Then they got promoted all the way to the Championship and it was quite remarkable for a club of that size.

Once they hit the Championship the wheels truly came off and they drop back down about 5 leagues, not sure what happened, maybe they spent too much money trying to compete in the Championship and just paid the price.
 
I remember my dad saying years ago that he started watching non league Yeovil and said they where going places.

Then they got promoted all the way to the Championship and it was quite remarkable for a club of that size.

Once they hit the Championship the wheels truly came off and they drop back down about 5 leagues, not sure what happened, maybe they spent too much money trying to compete in the Championship and just paid the price.
Yep Yeovil did exceptionally well to reach the championship, maybe the smallest ever. Wycombe were a minnow, but Yeovil a step below.
 
Yep Yeovil did exceptionally well to reach the championship, maybe the smallest ever. Wycombe were a minnow, but Yeovil a step below.
Colchester another small club to do so as well. Did well to manage two seasons there, slower decline back down than Yeovil but have very nearly dropped out the efl for a few seasons now.
 
Colchester another small club to do so as well. Did well to manage two seasons there, slower decline back down than Yeovil but have very nearly dropped out the efl for a few seasons now.
I must admit i didn't even know they'd been there 06-08 apparently.

For me they will always be affectionately known as "Col U scum" after intense battles with my boys Wycombe in the Conference.
 
I must admit i didn't even know they'd been there 06-08 apparently.

For me they will always be affectionately known as "Col U scum" after intense battles with my boys Wycombe in the Conference.
Grew up watching col u trust me I fully remember the championship as its the only time in my life they haven't been totally shite.

Mounted a fairly decent play off charge first season. Teams really struggled going to layer road.
 
Some big late goals today Sandy?
One of those horrible games where you have an earlyish sending off (56?) and know the rest of the game is a total attritional backs to wall job.

Wrexham score a lot of late winners, especially at home.
But they have played a lot more at home than away is the hope for the future and they're much weaker away.

We've lost 2 absolutely critical loanees, one at centre back, First game with another guy - he gets sent off!
 
I remember my dad saying years ago that he started watching non league Yeovil and said they where going places.

Then they got promoted all the way to the Championship and it was quite remarkable for a club of that size.

Once they hit the Championship the wheels truly came off and they drop back down about 5 leagues, not sure what happened, maybe they spent too much money trying to compete in the Championship and just paid the price.
That Yeovil team was built pretty heavily on loans. It was still a fantastic achievement but there's always going to be an element of luck with a squad like that. Even in the year they spent in the Championship they only signed a handful permanently with loans into the double figures. There was no real future planning at all.
 
How come they are this high on table? More or less same squad which was playing in L2.
And also numbers of their strikers; they barely score goals this year but Wrexham is 3 points from direct promotion.
 
Home record demolished last night, after 13 wins and 2 draws in 15 they lost v Stevenage.
28 games played and a bizarre skew of 16 home and 12 aways.
 
How come they are this high on table? More or less same squad which was playing in L2.
And also numbers of their strikers; they barely score goals this year but Wrexham is 3 points from direct promotion.

Most of the squad was or is L1 level, they attracted a lot of players to drop down for decent wages, a shot at fame (documentary) and a very good chance of rapid promotion.

Still think they can finish 2nd behind Birmingham, Wycombe are bit of a surprise package this year but such a long way to go yet. Wrexham will still probably add 1-2 more this window, they know its a great chance to go up again.
 
from what i understand, reynolds’ wife was caught diddling an actor and he’s got an expensive court case to pay for now.
 
Read it on a couple of online articles about them becoming minority owners due to them acquiring a brewing company or something?

Hence asking the question as I wasn’t sure, and if others were more appraised of the situation.
They brought a welsh brewing company (Wrexham Lager Beer co.) and sold a minority stake in Wrexham FC last autumn.
 
My favourite thing about the whole Wrexham thing is that way before Rob and Ryan came along, Bootlegger was their most famous fan.

The fact that he’s not featured even once on the Disney documentary makes me laugh. I’m not even sure he even goes anymore.

They’ve steered well clear of him being on it even though they’ve shown self proclaimed football hooligans on it :lol:
 
from what i understand, reynolds’ wife was caught diddling an actor and he’s got an expensive court case to pay for now.
In a manner of speaking, kinda, I've followed the court docs, it's looking not great for his wife, the fella seems to have pretty solid evidence to back himself up and a counter-suit against them. $400million+. It'll be telling what happens with Wrexham if it all goes to hell in that regard.
 
My favourite thing about the whole Wrexham thing is that way before Rob and Ryan came along, Bootlegger was their most famous fan.

The fact that he’s not featured even once on the Disney documentary makes me laugh. I’m not even sure he even goes anymore.

They’ve steered well clear of him being on it even though they’ve shown self proclaimed football hooligans on it :lol:
Wrexham Lager Beer Co. are currently selling a Bootlegger beer with a cartoon picture of his mush on the label.
 
Jay Rodriguez got the headlines but Sam Smith joining them is the better signing. Proven consistent scorer in League 1, decent age too. To progress they need more additions like that rather than focusing on older 'names'.
 
In a manner of speaking, kinda, I've followed the court docs, it's looking not great for his wife, the fella seems to have pretty solid evidence to back himself up and a counter-suit against them. $400million+. It'll be telling what happens with Wrexham if it all goes to hell in that regard.

There hasn’t been a case in that industry where someone gets the figure from the counter suit. It’ll be settled and then NDA’s galore.
 
There hasn’t been a case in that industry where someone gets the figure from the counter suit. It’ll be settled and then NDA’s galore.
Indeed, but the fella involved is a young enough and this is a career ending claim that has been made against him, settling still isn’t gonna come cheap I reckon.
 
Jay Rodriguez got the headlines but Sam Smith joining them is the better signing. Proven consistent scorer in League 1, decent age too. To progress they need more additions like that rather than focusing on older 'names'.

They're going all out for the 3 promotions in a row and making history.

I think they'll win the playoffs even if they don't make the top 2.

Their squad will need a complete overhaul if they reach the Championship though.

It's a huge jump in quality.
 
They're going all out for the 3 promotions in a row and making history.

I think they'll win the playoffs even if they don't make the top 2.

Their squad will need a complete overhaul if they reach the Championship though.

It's a huge jump in quality.
They'll just buy their way to another playoff tilt in the championship, it's pretty disgusting that they get so much leeway for basically cheating the system because the owners are 'nice guys'.

I for one hope they stay in League one for as long as possible and struggle.
 
They'll just buy their way to another playoff tilt in the championship, it's pretty disgusting that they get so much leeway for basically cheating the system because the owners are 'nice guys'.

I for one hope they stay in League one for as long as possible and struggle.
It’s not because they’re nice guys. It’s because they’re bringing Hollywood level of exposure to the football league.
 
They'll just buy their way to another playoff tilt in the championship, it's pretty disgusting that they get so much leeway for basically cheating the system because the owners are 'nice guys'.

I for one hope they stay in League one for as long as possible and struggle.

I don't think they'll have the finances to upgrade their squad so quickly.

They'll have to do it piecemeal.

Also they have to upgrade stadium, academy, training ground etc...

R&R are rich but not that rich.

I think they'd be happy to just survive in the Championship and slowly improve.

The fact that there will be 3 Welsh clubs in the Championship will be great for Welsh football and also narrative for the documentary.

The singing of two strikers shows their intent.
Paul Mullin is off form due to injuries and step up in level.