What's Erdogans angle in this? Can't help but feel he isn't doing this to make the world a better place.
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Making Turkey a regional power-breaker and essentially increasing Turkey’s influence in the region.
They have a very powerful geographic position, controlling the key straight between Russia and the oceans at winter (so Russia have to keep them on side), and being the bridging point between Africa and Europe (so Europe has to keep them on side)
I imagine they want to exploit their influence in Europe, Asia and fast-growing Africa and avert a huge migration crisis from Africa to Turkey.
World War or nuclear war, however you call it it doesn't sound good.
Are you saying it won't be?
Are you saying I'm saying it won't be?
I doubt anyone expected 2 things…
1) the Russian Air Force to be almost a complete non-factor
2) Russian logistics to be run on a 3rd grade reading level
She doesn’t half waffle some utter bollocks. “Will we win?” - proceeds to drone on and on incoherently.
Can't say I'm not intrigued by the idea of chimps throwing bananas at her.
I could only make it through 3 minutes of that. What a load of tripe. It's interesting though that she is/they are so ideologically bankrupt that their increasing justification for war is a hatred for Western liberal values but they have nothing else to offer apart from a disgust toward the West.
You think back to communism or you think of different religious ideologies that sustain people and there is something there that unites people, but they've got nothing to offer.
Okay. I guess we can solve that issue by making sure she puts money where her mouth is.
Someone should drag Simonyan's ass to the recruitment office, have her signing the enlistment papers and reporting to military camp in 24 hours.
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That's exactly what I was thinking! During the USSR era they were claiming to lead people to the egalitarian paradise. Okay, that was a lie, too ... but today they have absolutely nothing to offer. Even these anti-western sentiments are lies, the Russians did not kick McDonald's out of Russia, it was McDonald's that left Russia.
This TV represents the Russian State, and the Russian State lies all the time. Not intricate lies either, it is just stupid, obvious lies. At first they said they want to eliminate the "nazis" from Ukraine. Now it is a giant struggle vs the whole West. Meaningless bullshit, it is just lies, nothing else. Twelve months ago the average Russian did not have anything against the West (or Ukraine for that matter).
Patton was right. The western allies should have kept going after they got to the river Elbe, right into Moscow.
"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie."
Ah damn, they're onto West plans.
Yeah it’s bit like saying I’m going to punch you in the face but you have to promise not to hit me back!
But if NATO were to set up a no fly zone, they rightly wouldn't half ass it. It would involve setting up NATO troops within Ukraine, air defence systems and probably thinking about neutralising systems that could harm NATO troops/ equipment. The chance of a direct hit on NATO troops would increase significantly.
And despite what others said, Ukraine isn't going to be joining NATO any time soon, barring a massive change in circumstances or a change in NATO rules.
Ha they're such fecking idiots. If the west is close to collapse, why not wait it out? If the birth rate means we're going to fade away?
More importantly, isn't Russia's population actually shrinking and has a lower birth rate than almost all western countries? Aren't they going to shrink it even more by sending many of their young men off to die on the front lines and causing others to flee?
How is hitting Ukraine, not a western country, going to accelerate anything anyway?
This nonsense doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense.
When you get to that stage then yes that would be going on the attack but that's not what I was talking about. For example Kyiv is far from the front lines, they could hypothetically choose to set up a limited no fly zone for the sole purpose of protecting the city from drone and missile attacks. That doesn't involve targeting Russian troops, vehicles or infrastructure, they're mission would be to neutralize drones and missiles that's it. NATO/US have in the past set up limited no fly zones in Syria while the Russian military were also operating in that country and it didn't lead to direct conflict. It won't happen but hypothetically it wouldn't amount to NATO attacking Russia either.
Kosovo isn't part of NATO either.
Russia “returns” after seeing Turkey not giving a feck.
That’s exactly how the world powers need to deal with Russia as I was saying from the start.
Russia “returns” after seeing Turkey not giving a feck.
Yep, just ignore their threats and see that nothing happens, as Russia doesn't dare to attack any NATO assets
People don’t seem to understand that the core of Russian regime is made up from the simple criminals from 90s who only care about themselves and they would never put at the risk their actual livelihoods and wealth. However like any criminal they know how to scare people into giving in but once challenged they’ll always back down if they know they’re weaker. That’s why the voices and actions always need to be firm with respect to Russia.
Is it a russian thing that they love soliloquies or are they paid by the words on the telly? Putin speeches are hours long too.
I think that's just too simplistic. You don't know how Putin in his bunker might react, or how his military might respond to direct threats from a nuclear enemy.
Nuclear armed states try to avoid coming into direct conflict with each other in order to reduce the risks of nuclear escalation. Responsible leaders have to consider the risks, authoritarians like Putin do not. If Russia can be contained, weakened and beaten while reducing nuclear risk, but the price is it takes time, then who is to say that is the wrong move.
His rant last week was over 4 hours long. What the feck was he waffling on about for 4 hours.
I refuse to believe even in Russia anyone actually sat down and listened to all that shit.
His rant last week was over 4 hours long. What the feck was he waffling on about for 4 hours.
I refuse to believe even in Russia anyone actually sat down and listened to all that shit.
Wtf! How his first 5 minutes got their attention or he would have lost the crowd after the 2nd hour!
Six pack of GMLRS rockets hitting the pontoon crossing next to the Antonivskiy bridge, all six hitting the same spot. The precision on these rockets are insane.
p-code gps
Reminds me a little of a right wing rally here in the states.
looks like they all missed and hit the water doesn't it, or is that my 10pm eyesight?
We could just ignore that city for a while.
Russians attack the city in the morning, retreat in the afternoon, and UKR declares the attack repulsed.
Every day, rinse and repeat. Nothing would be different. In 2030, UKR forces will be in Anadyr, and the Wagner group will continue to assault the city.