Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Seems the Ukrainians had a good day hunting along the front line near Kharkiv. Shot down four jets and five drones. Making riskier flights may be in response to the pressure the Russian army is under at Lyman.
This is...odd? You could interpret it as 40% don't care about Ukraine. Do they even want to be liberated.
Grim as feck
What is with all these great musicians (and Roger Waters) losing their heads in recent years?
Two of my favorite performers Van Morrison and Eric Clapton turned out to be covidiots, and now this guy continues to embarrass himself. I suppose Waters has always been a bit of a contrarian.
Two of my favorite performers Van Morrison and Eric Clapton turned out to be covidiots, and now this guy continues to embarrass himself. I suppose Waters has always been a bit of a contrarian.
Waters appears to have lost his mind by turning excessively political in recent years.
Calling it now. The end is nigh for Putin.
From Niki Proshin, Sept 24:
"Partial mobilisation was announced in Russia. Many people gathered for a protest, many people are fleeing from Russia right now. This video I want to share some details of these events, and also share some personal feelings after observing the protests in Saint Petersburg."
"Partial mobilisation was announced in Russia. Many people gathered for a protest, many people are fleeing from Russia right now. This video I want to share some details of these events, and also share some personal feelings after observing the protests in Saint Petersburg."
What. Why? Do we think they just have straight up daily arrest quotas they gave to meet now?
This drives me nuts as well, don’t prolong the suffering of Ukrainian for no good reason.
What's going on with navalny? Is he still getting his messages out?
There’s nothing odd about it. They’re still under Russian rule, you can’t trust those basic sociological surveys in situations like that. People don’t know who’s asking them questions and a lot of them won’t risk a potential imprisonment for a random someone asking them questions on the street.
Yeah, from time to time. They send him to solitary on a regular basis & I think that they’re trying to set up another case against him, for extremism as he was arguing for the anti-war protests etc. not that it matters much, he’s only going to sit there until Putin is gone and he’s not getting out while Putin is at power.
And this isn't even a basic survey. It's just the people they asked making estimates.
Sometimes you wonder if Nato is afraid of a cornered putin using chemical weapons and nukes if Russia are decisively defeated in Ukraine.
Thanks Silvio...
It’s incredible how tone-deaf he is. I’m not even talking about his real position (he’s an old pal of Putin and is a corrupt politician with no principles, it’s not news), but about the timing and the wording of his statement. After 7 months of brutal genocidal war you go to the public with the notion of “he’s not that bad, actually” (he just wanted to overthrow a democratically-elected political regime in a neighboring country)?
Of course it's still bad if you want to do just that, but I don't think he is that far from the truth. To me everything about how the war went points to Putin really not wanting to wage this current war, but the Russian inability to pull this regime change off (and then using their existing systems with a little Russian support to slowly get rid of the idea of Ukraine existing) let it spiral towards this ongoing disaster.
Oh, of course he’s right — Putin wanted a blitzkrieg that would’ve ended up with him installing his proxy as a Ukrainian president (someone like Medvedchuk) and Ukraine becoming another Belarus.
It’s not something that can or should be used as an excuse though, especially at this stage.
Multiple sources claim that Russia will deny the option of leaving the country to men of conscription age at the 28th of September. Did something happen?
I mean the "referendums" finish and the lands are now Russian - therefore Russia is under attack and all justification for a complete mobilisation is there.
I've read that they are hesitant to provide Ukraine the means of decisive victory for that reason.
But Ukraine have shelled Belgorod already which is undisputed Russian land
True but different when a whole oblast that is supposed to be Russian is occupied.
Yeah, this logic is already kinda flawed since Ukrainian rockets already hit Belgorodskaya oblast' and Crimea that Russia already considers its own territory.
The mobilization is already full by the way, it's only partial in the meaningless words of politicians.
Everything is fecked up but that's what I think Putin will use for justification.