Russian drones hitting Odesa city center (Deribasovskaya St). You can see the Odesa Opera House at 7 sec.
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Damn. I remember seeing photos of very skinny Allied prisoners who were at the hands of Nazis or the Imperial Japanese Army in history books, but those were usually after at least a year in captivity. What the heck are they doing to POWs in Russia after 7 months or less?
Weird line of thought and yet unsurprising in the Russian context. Considering their age and their archaic design, I thought more Tu-95s would have been deployed after 7 months.
They might be olld, but they are part of the nuclear triad and are needed in that role. If it appears that Russia can't fight a nuclear war, they are in trouble.
They'll turn their own people against them before the tide of war.
It's all hypothetical and kind of moot (because outcome is still largely similar), but I think in a case of a large nuclear exchange not a single Russian bomber would survive to deliver its payload to Western Europe or North America. I think virtually all Russian hits would be from their ground-based missiles. Technologically and operationally they just seem to be so far behind NATO when it comes to anything in the air or at sea.
I'd agree with this. Brain drain is a "silent" weapon.
They are first strike weapons and while they likely would be destroyed, this is a game of numbers and probabilities. Fire enough dumb missiles and some will hit.
Only watched couple of seconds but looks like standard hazing.
Dangerous game when you cannot be sure whether they leave because they are against the war/Putin, or simply because they don't want to go to war themselves but are fine with everything else.
Looks more like he is trying to get a head injury so as to avoid serving.
Why the other feel the need to smash his head too? Initially I thought they instructed him to smash his head which is not uncommon . But it maybe as you say as well.
Fecking grim stuff.He's a good egg trying to help his mate
Is there any flights from Russia to Germany?
Otherwise how are they supposed to get there
Russia’s economy must be about to take quite a hit.
A lot will go through Turkey I’d think. Or Finland.
Finland will restrict right of entry from Russia in the coming days, including a full stop on tourist visas.
https://yle.fi/news/3-12637102
Good news.
So it will then be non EU countries with strong air connections to Germany. Dubai, etc and Turkey. Difficult to know whether this is the right decision or not.
Not sure they would have the visa for onward travel to Germany so yeah nice idea but needs some logistics and thought behind it
Nope.
They can try to stop the influx, but I have a feeling that the situation at that border will be as chaotic as your imagination of the US-Mexico border, especially with the length of the land border itself.
The other reason Putin may be ready to just throw this ragtag bunch of drunk and disaffected into battle is to try and derail the counter offensive.
If these guys just mutiny / surrender en masse the Ukrainians may have 500,000 POW's suddenly appear on their doorstep.
Maybe the UN could setup some camps and deal with them, freeing up the Ukrainians to fight on.
If these guys just mutiny / surrender en masse the Ukrainians may have 500,000 POW's suddenly appear on their doorstep.
Maybe the UN could setup some camps and deal with them, freeing up the Ukrainians to fight on.
Yeah that's not it.
TIL: despite Finland being seen as the victors of their war against the Soviet Union in 1939, they actually signed over 9% of their territory in the peace deal.
Wasn’t this conversation specifically about Germany providing visas (or at least allowing entry) specifically to Russians?
It’s odd that you went for a patronising reply rather than engaging. None of us know how easy or difficult it will be in practice, but let’s leave off with the attitude. We all want the same thing.
How will they provide visas... as I say nice idea but logistics issues kind of matter because I don't think people can queue up for a visa in Moscow without being rounded up and sent to the front line
Processesing centres in Finland/ Turkey... not sure how practical it us
I agree that providing a route out is a good idea but that kind of involves an actual route ... which I'm sure without being patronising you can coherently explain to me
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Everyone in the west should follow, also Israel looks pathetic in all this.
If Germany really is intent on providing visas or some other kind of permit to travel, then I’d guess it would be through German embassies potentially worldwide, but in reality mostly in countries close to Russia. During the revolutions of 1989 a huge amount of East Germans made it to the West not through the direct east/west Germany border, but by ‘holidaying’ in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, getting visas there, and travelling overland via Austria. If it happens in this case then I think it will be the same principle, just different interim countries. So I’m sure it’s feasible logistically, the big question for me is whether Germany really is willing to facilitate this in large numbers. For me, that’s the potential problem rather than logistics. I’ll believe that Germany is serious when I actually see it happening rather than when the idea is first mooted.