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How is he still alive? Maybe he has serious influence with the GRU although no longer there (officially?)
His world view aligns pretty well with Putin, so no need to silence or even kill him. Allowing a certain spectrum of public voices around the government position allows to create the illusion of free speach in Russia.

And having such hawks like Girkin allows the actual president to be seen as acting calm and considerate in comparison.
 
It's not 90s anymore. I have a Huawei phone for instance.
I've had one too (bought when they were super cheap because of Trump ban) but it was shit. The older generation Samsung I had before that held up way better so I've gone back to Samsung. The only thing China is leading in is building cheap copies of stuff invented in the free world. I don't know a single appliance / gadget / piece of tech that was actually invented or developed in China.
 
I've had one too (bought when they were super cheap because of Trump ban) but it was shit. The older generation Samsung I had before that held up way better so I've gone back to Samsung. The only thing China is leading in is building cheap knock offs of stuff invented in the west. I don't know a single appliance / gadged / piece of tech that was actually invented or developed in China. They just copy whatever other people make.
That's a completely other theme, who invented what. And the thing about Samsung being better or not is just preference.
For instance who invented mobile phones and laptops? Whoever produce those things know is copying the guys who invented it in the first place, by your logic.
 
That's a completely other theme, who invented what. And the thing about Samsung being better or not is just preference.
For instance who invented mobile phones and laptops? Whoever produce those things know is copying the guys who invented it in the first place, by your logic.
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You quoted my reply to someone saying we would need to say goodbye to modern technology if we tried not buying chinese. Which is nonsense because nothing modern originated in China. That's all I'm saying.

(Sorry for being off-topic in this thread).
 
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You quoted my reply to someone saying we would need to say goodbye to modern technology if we tried not buying chinese. Which is nonsense because nothing modern originated in China. That's all I'm saying.

(Sorry for being off-topic in this thread).
Your first reply was its the cheap, crap stuff they're producing and that's a notion which is completely outdated.
 
I've had one too (bought when they were super cheap because of Trump ban) but it was shit. The older generation Samsung I had before that held up way better so I've gone back to Samsung. The only thing China is leading in is building cheap copies of stuff invented in the free world. I don't know a single appliance / gadget / piece of tech that was actually invented or developed in China.

Thats like last decade. Biden's policy of trying to impose sanctions and isolate them will only force them to build stuff for themselves and in a big way.


China Will Soon Lead the U.S. in Tech
Beijing pulls ahead in 5G and artificial intelligence while catching up in semiconductors.


https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-china-technology/
 
Your first reply was its the cheap, crap stuff they're producing and that's a notion which is completely outdated.
I guess cheap and crap are a matter of perspective. I stand by what I said. I actually think it's true more so now than 5 years ago, but maybe I've just become more aware of it. Even the chinese know it which is why NIO etc. develop their cars in Munich.
 
I guess cheap and crap are a matter of perspective. I stand by what I said. I actually think it's true more so now than 5 years ago, but maybe I've just become more aware of it. Even the chinese know it which is why NIO etc. develop their cars in Munich.
It's a matter of facts. We'll have to agree to completely disagree on this one. Cheers.
 
Igor Girkin has been calling for official war and full mobilization basically since the war started. But he has been out of any actual power for years now, so whatever he says isn't official policy but far more hawkish. That might align again if Putin takes his view again, but he is in no way speaking for Putin.
Thanks for the explanation
 
The ending of that translation - is it preparing the Russian people for a more widespread mobilisation and widespread conscription? "Only a complete military victory of the armed forces of the Russian Federation over the so called Ukraine can break this trend. For which alas self-mobilisation and collecting convicts from the bottom of the barrel is not enough", or am I reading too much into that?

Think he's hinting that conventionally, Russia has already lost, without saying any more.

Wagner telegram channel Greyzone provides their view on why mobilisation won't work:

 
It's a matter of facts. We'll have to agree to completely disagree on this one. Cheers.
Are you telling me you bought the Huwaii for another reason than the price? Be honest... (And even Huwaii has TSMC chips in it, does it not? Why?)

Thats like last decade. Biden's policy of trying to impose sanctions and isolate them will only force them to build stuff for themselves and in a big way.


China Will Soon Lead the U.S. in Tech
Beijing pulls ahead in 5G and artificial intelligence while catching up in semiconductors.


https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-china-technology/
China has been closing shop ever since winnie the puh started trying to outshine Mao and Deng Xiaoping. Everyone can decide for themselves if that will keep / bring them to the cutting edge of technology. I'm not convinced.
 
Are you telling me you bought the Huwaii for another reason than the price? Be honest... (And even Huwaii has TSMC chips in it, does it not? Why?)


China has been closing shop ever since winnie the puh started trying to outshine Mao and Deng Xiaoping. Everyone can decide for themselves if that will keep / bring them to the cutting edge of technology. I'm not convinced.
I bought it cause it's quality and I'm really happy with it, just like I bought the previous one too.
 
I've had one too (bought when they were super cheap because of Trump ban) but it was shit. The older generation Samsung I had before that held up way better so I've gone back to Samsung. The only thing China is leading in is building cheap copies of stuff invented in the free world. I don't know a single appliance / gadget / piece of tech that was actually invented or developed in China.
That's absolute bollocks, tbh.
 
UK Russia relations are at an all time low. The UK have been on the ground training troops alongside the US for years.

Boris hammed it up, but in all honesty could have had any British PM in power (bar Corbyn) and the support would have been similar. If we were still in the EU Britain would be leading the European effort to support Ukraine and I’m convinced you’d see a more coordinated effort.

As I say I have my doubts personally.
 
You can add India to the list too

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India, China, Pakistan.... all need Russia's O&G.
I can't recall a single product I have bought that was made in India.
 
Give me some examples then!?
China is leveraging these advantages and striving to become a global technological leader using state-led policies such as Made in China 2025 or the New Generation of Artificial Intelligence Development Plan. One of Beijing’s objectives is to raise the domestic content of core components and materials in high-tech manufacturing to 70 percent by 2025. To help achieve this, China is eclipsing the United States as the world’s largest overall (public and private) R&D investor. The Chinese government already outspent the U.S. government on intramural funding in 2017 ($67.4 billion to $47.1 billion), and Beijing likely exceeded U.S. gross domestic spending on R&D in 2018 (after sitting at roughly one-third below U.S. spending levels a decade ago). By comparison, Japan’s total R&D investment is about where China’s spending was in 2008 (roughly $150 billion), and its intramural government spending only amounts to $12.1 billion.

In addition, China is the world leader in patent applications with 40 percent of the global total, a share more than two times larger than that of the United States and four times larger than that of Japan. China is also poised to overtake the United States in the most-cited 1 percent of published AI papers by 2025, if current trends continue. Though there are some questions about the efficiency and effectiveness of Beijing’s push to become a leader in tech, it is undeniable that Washington and Tokyo face mounting competition in innovation.

When it comes to robotics, biotech and even payment systems it's safe to say they are one of the global leaders or at least can challenge the most advanced countries out there.
 
When it comes to robotics, biotech and even payment systems it's safe to say they are one of the global leaders or at least can challenge the most advanced countries out there.
So no concrete example then? Technology is all around us everyday, but what chinese invention is? They can spend a lot of money on building robots etc. but what new sensor have they invented? New motor? The only thing I can think of where they played a major role are solid state batteries. But that was an international collaboration that they were a part of.

Even if one decides to believe their government on the numbers I don't see the results just yet. Electronic payment is little more than accounting.
 
So no concrete example then? Technology is all around us everyday, but what chinese invention is? They can spend a lot of money on building robots etc. but what new sensor have they invented? New motor? The only thing I can think of where they played a major role are solid state batteries. But that was an international collaboration they were a part of.

Even if one decides to believe their government on the numbers I don't see the results just yet. Electronic payment is little more than accounting.
Do you know what a patent is?
 
So no concrete example then? Technology is all around us everyday, but what chinese invention is? They can spend a lot of money on building robots etc. but what new sensor have they invented? New motor? The only thing I can think of where they played a major role are solid state batteries. But that was an international collaboration that they were a part of.

Even if one decides to believe their government on the numbers I don't see the results just yet. Electronic payment is little more than accounting.
Consumer electronics is only one part of the technology that is around us. There is automation and machines that you never heard of but are used in creating all those appliances and industry and automation usually from my experience always has a Chinese machine that isn't a "copy" of Italian, German or USA one. And they are quite good at it and used all around the world.

If you are expecting to hear something like iPhone then it's a moot point because we're living in a western world where consumer appliances are usually those coming from local markets and naturally most of the familiar brands would be the ones from Western countries.

If you want a good example of fintech, biotech and innovation in the medical sphere Tencent is one of the biggest and fast growing companies in all of those spheres with assets (subsidiaries combined) at around half a trillion. They are one of the leading R&D companies in fintech(payment systems) and medical care in terms of innovation.
 
I don’t know anything about the quality of Chinese phones, but here are some detailed maps of the action in Kherson:


I read a Washington Post article the other day about the action in Kherson. It seems the Russians still had a sizeable force, with tons of artillery fire outnumbering the Ukrainians'. The progress has been very slow, and the Ukraine forces are taking massive hits. It is not exactly unexpected, and it is still too early to say the Russian forces are collapsing in general.
 
Does this mean anything? What do you think?

https://www.reuters.com/world/indian-pm-modi-tells-russias-putin-now-is-not-an-era-war-2022-09-16/

Indian PM Modi tells Russia's Putin now 'is not an era of war'

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin on the sidelines of a regional security bloc summit in Uzbekistan, adding that democracy, diplomacy and dialogue keep the world together.

Putin said that he understood Modi's concerns about the Ukraine war. "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."
 
Does this mean anything? What do you think?

https://www.reuters.com/world/indian-pm-modi-tells-russias-putin-now-is-not-an-era-war-2022-09-16/

Indian PM Modi tells Russia's Putin now 'is not an era of war'

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin on the sidelines of a regional security bloc summit in Uzbekistan, adding that democracy, diplomacy and dialogue keep the world together.

Putin said that he understood Modi's concerns about the Ukraine war. "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."

It all depends on whether Putin can find a respectable way to declare success in his special military operation. At the moment it looks unlikely.
 
Does this mean anything? What do you think?

https://www.reuters.com/world/indian-pm-modi-tells-russias-putin-now-is-not-an-era-war-2022-09-16/

Indian PM Modi tells Russia's Putin now 'is not an era of war'

"I know that today's era is not an era of war, and I have spoken to you on the phone about this," Modi told Putin on the sidelines of a regional security bloc summit in Uzbekistan, adding that democracy, diplomacy and dialogue keep the world together.

Putin said that he understood Modi's concerns about the Ukraine war. "I know about your position on the conflict in Ukraine, and I know about your concerns. We want all of this to end as soon as possible."
I think it simply means that India won't support Russia's military in the current war, similarly as China don't deliver any weapons etc.
 
Melenyk took a Trumpish approach to public relations in Germany. He attempted to guilt/shame/insult the german population into doing whatever he thought was best, instead of laying out the reasons why it would make sense to do x,y or z.

However that was only a small factor. A much bigger factor is that 1/4 of the country essentially grew up under Russian rule (at least the people of an age to be politicians now), and for the other 3/4 that talking to Russia had worked for the longest time, including in reuniting germany without war or mayhem, which was especially noteworthy considering the absolute abyss that had brought about the seperation in the first place. People seriously understimate the effect all that still has on current german politics and population. Modern Germany isn't and never has been in a leading role in the "west" like the UK or the US have been. No matter how much Merkel fans like to potray it as such. It's not a kind of seperate entity like France either, it's been having to navigate the crossroads between east and west for the past 80 years to carve out it's spot in the world.
Add to that some thoroughly uninspiring leaders and a population tired of being told they have to pay for everyone and their momma in Europe and you begin to see some of the reasons behind this recent cowardice.
I can completely understand the thinking, especially with Germany being so nervous about the dangers of armies that they don't even have one. The US has basically said, "use tactical (or big) nukes and we'll bomb your forces and risk starting WWIII," which isn't something I can imagine Germany saying now or then.

I can only imagine the effects of Soviet occupation on Eastern Germany, but a lot of extra reluctance seems in order.

It doesn't seem that NATO countries took the possibility of further Russian expansion seriously. Looking back, the lack of a response to the 2014 invasion is bewildering. No wonder Russia thought they could take the whole country with minimal fuss.
 
I think it simply means that India won't support Russia's military in the current war, similarly as China don't deliver any weapons etc.

Yeah, but I was surprised by Putin's "We want all of this to end as soon as possible."

But perhaps it means nothing.
 


Might be one for geopolitics thread, but nonetheless, a byproduct of this failed invasion.
 
A Ukrainian wrestler at the World Championships in Belgrade just took Bronze. Scored the match winning point with 12 seconds left on the clock. Slava Ukraini
 
Thats like last decade. Biden's policy of trying to impose sanctions and isolate them will only force them to build stuff for themselves and in a big way.


China Will Soon Lead the U.S. in Tech
Beijing pulls ahead in 5G and artificial intelligence while catching up in semiconductors.


https://www.brookings.edu/research/global-china-technology/
It's inevitable that they will overtake. What will be interesting is when they are ahead. Will they be able to maintain the lead when it is their turn to innovate and be creative. The lack of free market competition will probably hamper them, If the crazies doesn't take over US, I'm pretty sure US will regain the lead pretty quickly.
 
Hopefully the wolves at home can smell the weakness oozing off him at this summit and feel emboldened to try a coup.