I mean, does it necessarily matter what Russians think of Europe right now or if they’re united or not?
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I love the words regime. It’s crazy word that would be used. The actual truth in Russia (outside Moscow, ST, Petes) - a lot of people are like — were good. Russians aren’t at that place politically where we can just go for it. I know that you may want to impose that but it’s just not the way.
I stopped following the Ukraine situation about 2 weeks after it started.
Can someone explain how this is going on for so long? I remember the reports in the first couple of weeks saying how Russian army should be into Kiev within “hours”. It’s been 7 months now, what has actually been happening? Apologies for my ignorance on the matter.
Can someone explain how this is going on for so long? I remember the reports in the first couple of weeks saying how Russian army should be into Kiev within “hours”. It’s been 7 months now, what has actually been happening? Apologies for my ignorance on the matter.
What does this even mean ? They're barely staying afloat against a nation with 1/10th Russia's defense budget, so Europe probably wouldn't be concerned after Putin has castrated half his military by sending them to die in a war he hasn't gained anything by.
or that Russians are in fact part of Europe. Just like French, English, German— you absolutely have no say in it.
It's the correct word to use, regardless of how you feel about it.
I'm not making judgements if they're good people or not, even though I tend to think if you support killing people in another country you're generally not a good person. I'm saying that if you support putin's regime, you should not be allowed to travel in the west freely enjoying it's freedoms, working, traveling, etc.
If you are a russian who opposes the regime, the west should welcome you. Forcing them to stay in russia is punishing an innocent.
It's absolutely astonishing reading this kinda stuff when russia is literally doing to ukraine what you consider to be totally outrageous if someone tried doing the same to russia.
Can you honestly not see the blatant hypocrisy?
@maniak absolutely no sense in me mentioning whataboutery. 
I think I did. No, it is certainly not enough to start a war. It's either a misguided or a disgusting thing to do but (and this is going to sound a but stupid since I'm the one who brought the issue up) it's a thing of secondary importance compared to what is happening in Ukraine.
I'm afraid that you're using it as a way to deflect/shift the blame (at least going but what you've said about Bucha etc.) while my point is that we should consider the end result of such actions and whenever they're going to weaken Putin's regime (like most of the previous sanctions did) or strengthen it (like this one will).
Guys. Look through my posts..
I was always sympathetic to Donbas residents, however, I was appalled at the start of ‘war’
Im still anti war but the way Russians have been treated - racially abused - I’ll not stand for it.
I was always sympathetic to Donbas residents, however, I was appalled at the start of ‘war’
Im still anti war but the way Russians have been treated - racially abused - I’ll not stand for it.
Somebody has opened a cheap bottle of vodka rather early on a Sunday.
What's happened was that the Russians botched the invasion, adjusted their objectives to a smaller scope, and are now holding onto some territory in the south and east. But there's a lot of attrition and the front lines move slow so the war is now just dragging on without a breakthrough.
It’s just the way he always is, his views on the war are pretty much identical to the nonsense spouted on Russian tv channels. Just a victim of propaganda.
Right… that’s absolutely horrifying. Anyone can freedom of movement et al.
Then stick to russia and ukraine, don't mention anyone else.@maniak absolutely no sense in me mentioning whataboutery.
The west trying to tell russia what to do or how to be = outrageous, it must not stand!
Russia trying to tell ukraine what to do or how to be = well, it's geopolitics you see *sad smiley*
C'mon mate...
Most of the reports were blatantly wrong in assessing both Ukraine's (underestimating it) and Russia's (way overestimating it) military power. And, what's probably most important, Russia itself didn't realise how difficult of a task it would be to blitzkrieg through half of Ukraine and take control of the biggest cities of Eastern & Central Ukraine.
In the end, Russia had suffered terrible losses over the first few weeks of badly organised offence, Russian forces were pushed back East, leaving Kiyv, Nikolaev and other major targets under Ukrainian control. After that Russia had focused on Donbass & Southern Ukraine, reorganising and focusing more on artillery fire rather than tanks & ground troops pushing forwards without much thought. They've managed to take Kherson and most of the Luganskaya oblast' under control and the plans are to have referendums in September for those territories to join Russia.
And this is where we are at the moment. Ukraine is getting more and more Western weapons as the time go and it probably has a strategic upper hand in terms of personnel since Ukraine (even though it only has 40 million of population compared to Russia's 140 mil) has already called for a global mobilisation and Putin is scared of calling one (he still refuses to call this "war" in order to keep the appearance of normality). But while Ukraine is probably better off in the long run, at this point it's almost a stalemate with nothing much happening in terms of big offensive or counter-offensive moves etc.
You actually believe that? You think a force of 30 btg could capture a city of Kiev.
Please explain that to me?
I will say this,Russia sent 18’s green men there
Although thank you for illustrating my point that this move will only increase the support for Putin in those who aren't already openly against him as they'll see this as yet another act of rusophobic aggression from the West.
I respect this hill my friend.
I wonder why there is Russophobia in the west, mostly in Eastern Europe.
Really? Then prove it right now under the UN charger.
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replace that with few words.
This dude is at it again 
I guess it’s not because of centuries of genocides against other people and cultures that is continuing to this day. Must be just because of wesrtern propaganda.
Absolutely horrendous mate. You think I want any of that.
Ffs he's on the booze again.
The real victims of this war - the Russians.
It's very impressive how blinded somebody can be. You're a case study on the influence of conspiracy theories and propaganda
I will absolutely defend being Russian.
This is bizarre
Then stop at that instead of defending the war and spreadi g Krenlin propaganda
I’m not convinced you understand what the UN charter is used for or what its relevance is in this context, but Russia is in clear violation of these points:
Article 2(1)–(5)
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
You’re posting about a hypothetical situation where Russia is provoked into a land grab and war in Europe due to certain European actions, without recognizing/admitting that these potential actions are being mooted in response to a land grab and war that Russia has already launched.
Timing. I was just thinking fondly earlier of a multi hour Junior Vasquez set I attended at Tunnel in the mid 90s.
That absolutely applies to Ukraine unless you didn’t get the memo.
What you posted to me is literally Ukrainian guys.
I'm not denying that, I'm just pointing out that your priorities are miles off. The country you're so proud of is committing serious war crimes left right and center and you werre nowhere to be seen. Now you're here again sobbing how unfairly your countrymen are being treated over a more or less irrelevant injustice in comparison.
Look the fact that I have direct line to Wagner group top brass - you want to ban for it - fine.
you guys sit in ech chamber and get your updates from James Vazquez haha seriously. You guys believe whatever. Or actual person whom knows Utkin on a personal level.
you guys sit in ech chamber and get your updates from James Vazquez haha seriously. You guys believe whatever. Or actual person whom knows Utkin on a personal level.
Yeah, we're the ones who believe everything. If you only knew how dumb you appear in the eyes of people who actually bother to check their sources. Dunning and Kruger would find you incredibly fascinating