Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

TMDaines said:
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Plenty of deluded fools according to that article. You should also read the comments section on articles from CNN International on Facebook and who posts them. There's no need for Russian bots nor Republicans anymore to parrot the narrative from the Kremlin.

For people to hold anti-western views because of past colonialism is one thing, but to be burying heads in the sand in front of evidence in broad daylight is another. What has Russia or the Soviet Union done to make Africa a better place, seriously? I haven't seen any major Russian investment that would improve the agricultural industry nor support any irrigation project that would considerably increase the size of cultivable lands, both of which are seen in the likes of Egypt and other countries in the Arabian peninsula for the last couple of decades. The current grain shortage is because of the Kremlin openly backstabbing everyone, especially nations that heavily depend on Ukrainian and Russian grain.
 
Russian politicians go off the rails more and more every day, completely lost in their fantasies of Russian strength ...

 
Frosty said:
That cannot be real news surely? Must be satire...
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It’s true, although it’s always important to realize that MP’s proposition of the law doesn’t equal an actual implementation of such law. They often introduce the most ridiculous, dubious and consciously provocative propositions so that the laws (also often anti-constitutional, anti-intellectual, bigoted etc.) that they actually consider and implement look a bit better by comparison.

Zhirinovsky was usually the go-to guy for such ludicrous proposals but he went on a permanent sabbatical a few months ago.
 
From the BBC:

"Russian economy to shrink by 18% by 2023 - report

Global banking experts believe Russia's economy will shrink 15% by the end of the year - and a further 3% in 2023 - due to Western sanctions, a mass exodus of companies and a collapse in exports.

The figures could be even worse if Europe fully weans itself off Russian energy, the Institute of International Finance (IIF) warned.

In a report about the effects of war on Russia's finances, the IFF said measures imposed on Moscow by the UK, EU and US would only expand and tighten in the coming months.

They've already triggered the "full disintegration of 30 years of investment" for Russia, Elina Ribakova, the IIF's deputy chief economist, said. She added it was hard to put a figure on "ripping apart 15 years of value chains"."
 
"... The Premier League have made the decision to suspend their Russian TV deal due to the ongoing invasion of Ukraine. The announcement was made on Thursday during the annual general meeting between clubs, with no vote held over the decision.

The deal was with broadcasting company MATCH, who owned the rights to show the Premier League in Russia from the 2022/23 season until 2027/28. The deal was worth a reported £44million across the six years and this suspension means that no matches will be legally broadcasted from there until the deal is released from suspension."

https://www.football.london/premier-league/premier-league-decision-broadcasting-rights-24183802
 
I watched this video last night. Of everything that's been thrown around about this conflict, the oil and gas angle seems to make the most sense.

 
Captured Britons and Moroccan man sentenced to death - Russian news agency


Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."
 
Frosty said:
Captured Britons and Moroccan man sentenced to death - Russian news agency


Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."
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Just read this on one of Ukrainian websites. If they are executed, you can be absolutely sure that the UK will be sending even more weapons. Feck Putin and feck his rushism.
 
Frosty said:
Captured Britons and Moroccan man sentenced to death - Russian news agency


Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."
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So guess Russia wouldn't complain if all captured members of the Wagner Group were to be executed by the Ukrainian authorities.
 
Frosty said:
Captured Britons and Moroccan man sentenced to death - Russian news agency


Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."
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And people openly wonder why Ukraine can’t just find a way of recognising and getting on with the LNR and DNR.
 
From the BBC:

"Russia may have lost 20,000 soldiers, Western official says

The number of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine could now be as high as 20,000 - according to the latest assessment by a senior Western official.

Previous estimates, given several weeks ago, were about 15,000. That official estimate has increased to “between 15,000 and 20,000”.

The Western official, who does not want to be named, does not speculate on the numbers of Ukrainians killed. However, he acknowledges Ukrainian forces are “facing morale issues” after more than 100 days of fighting.

But while Ukrainian armed forces are “taking very heavy casualties”, he says the Russian offensive continues “to be deeply troubled on many levels”.

He claims Russian forces are running short of some ammunition – specifically precision weapons such as cruise missiles. But he adds Russia still has large stocks of “dumb bombs”.
 
Traub said:
This would open up EU and NATO issues. I can't see Russia doing this.
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Peter Zeihan believes that Russia is planning to take control of everything east of the Polish gap, as well as Ukraine, Moldova and half of Romania to cover the southern gap, in an attempt to secure defensible borders before their population collapses. They've already threatened Poland, so these threats may be significant.

Of course they thought they'd be done with Ukraine in 3 days so it's hard to say if those plans even matter anymore. If they can't capture Ukraine then it won't matter. But they may be able to wear Ukraine down over months and years.
 
Russia won’t be able to fight shit for another decade or more if sanctions remain in place given the extent of losses they have suffered.
 
GlastonSpur said:
So guess Russia wouldn't complain if all captured members of the Wagner Group were to be executed by the Ukrainian authorities.
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And by the way, I remember that there are not only Russians in the Wagner Group. So you have to wonder how those other nations would feel if some of their citizens working for Wagner are condemned to the same fate as those 2 Brits and the Morrocan man.

calodo2003 said:
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Like salting wounds this much by speaking about Sweden like 3 centuries ago, Vlad? How about we talk about what Japan, Finland and Afghanistan did 117, 80 and 33 years ago respectively?
 
TMDaines said:
We still have people posting daily about great Youtube videos that neatly explain how this is all about oil and gas.
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That is from a decent content creator to be fair. It’s always power/money in the end, and that obviously includes O&G.

Throw in perceived cultural superiority and we’re right back in pre-WWII times. It’s like nobody learned their lessons.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
That is from a decent content creator to be fair. It’s always power/money in the end, and that obviously includes O&G.

Throw in perceived cultural superiority and we’re right back in pre-WWII times. It’s like nobody learned their lessons.
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I’ve seen the video too and, yes, it is well made, but it doesn’t meant it is right. This is all about Russia and Putin’s obsession with controlling what they consider to be their sphere of influence, natural resources or no natural resources.
 
Frosty said:
Captured Britons and Moroccan man sentenced to death - Russian news agency


Two Britons and a Moroccan man captured by Russian forces in Ukraine have been sentenced to death, the Russian-owned news agency RIA Novosti is reporting.

Aiden Aslin, 28, from Nottinghamshire, Shaun Pinner, 48, from Bedfordshire, and a third man, Moroccan national Saaudun Brahim, appeared in a court in the Donetsk People's Republic, which is held by pro-Russian rebels.

The court is not internationally recognised.

They are reportedly charged with being mercenaries. But the British men's families say they were in Ukraine's military.

Both British men are serving members of Ukraine’s armed forces and the UK has made clear they are prisoners of war entitled to immunity and should not face prosecution for taking part in hostilities.

On Telegram RIA News said: "The Supreme Court of the DPR passed the first sentence on mercenaries- the British Aiden Aslin and Sean Pinner and the Moroccan Saadun Brahim were sentenced to death, RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom."
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And folks were concerned that a war criminal was given a life sentence.
 
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