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Oh no! I mentioned Vladivostok in an earlier post about the fanning out across Russia of Ukrainian saboteurs who've been allegedly trained by the special, special forces SAS folk disguised (according to Russia) as medics.
It's all happening much faster than I thought
Wait, are those pictures a spoof, or are they actual "evidence" provided by the FSB?
Two bands by this name, UK based antifascist anarcho-punk or a nazi punk band from Russia
Likewise!
By demonstraring power in the black sea was it?
Add that to the list of humiliations that will ultimately make him crack or go off the deep end.
Looks like the gloves are off in properly arming the Ukrainians
Zooming in here on the salient. Izium is in the upper left where Russia is making a strong push south from.
The BBC reports:
"... The UK ... said it had assessed that approximately 15,000 Russian military personnel had been killed since the invasion began"
"... The UK ... said it had assessed that approximately 15,000 Russian military personnel had been killed since the invasion began"
I find this particular element of the war fascinating. It feels very very high risk for Ukraine to be taking the fight inside Russia. Which makes me think that those strikes have been at such key targets that the potential blowback was considered worth the risk. I’d assume any strike inside Russia would need Zelensky’s express authorisation, but I don’t know that obviously.
Sure, Ukraine was wearing a miniskirt, what was she thinking fighting back against the one that is complicit (financing) of who is raping her. The only think that Ukraine will accomplish with that is that germany will testify against she.
Better to shut up. Or the SPD russian friendly will get mad and they will voice out that they still friends with an aggressor country
Man. There is a war. Germany fecked it up long term on dependency. Is even forgivable bc no one would imagine that this would never happen. It was in part evengood trying to smooth out russia trying to have friendly ties. But now germany is dragging its feet all over the place in many areas. And zelensky call germany out. Thats it.
If that makes resurface russian friendly german politicians the better. Because that confirms why zelenky called out Germany and some action can be taken.
Sorry you felt insulted mate. Hope you feel better
Hope ukranians in caf can appologize between bombardments financed by the west still
It feels a bit like we need to wheel that Bors comic out again.
Also fascinating to ponder is whether some of these are saboteur attacks by Russians working in concert with Ukraine. Not this attack mind, but those deeper inside Russia.
Me too, but I’d also like to recommend these Twitter accounts for updates:
Kyivindependent
Rob Lee (@RALee85)
Illia Ponomarenko
Canadian Ukrainian Voulenteer
I’m sure there’s loads more good ones out there.
At the very least you’d think they needed boots on the ground somehow. Even in the Iraq war, with a hugely more advanced military the US and UK had to use special forces behind enemy lines to pinpoint coordinates of targets. I don’t know how much that has changed with drone warfare though. Perhaps you can have a high altitude drone that does all that for you now. If it’s not saboteur attacks (and that’s definitely a feasible explanation) then I’d put money on there being US input into target identification.
I’ve only just got the 10 likes needed to post on this forum, but I remember reading when the Russian ship Moskva was sunk that a US drone was operating in that area and had turned off its location finder in the hour leading up to the hit.
*Sigh*
You got almost everything wrong about my post. So I try to get my point across better.
Firstly, I don't feel insulted. It's perfectly fine to call out the politicians who are hesitant to help Ukraine. Actually I am very opposed to most of them for years, albeit for other reasons (but their stance on the war in Ukraine fits them well...).
I think you are right about our strategic mistake and I appreciate that you seem to be understanding about that. And yes, Zelensky calling Germany out for it is understandable to everyone, albeit the discussion about Steinmeier's visit wasn't the right move.
But that article discussed wasn't about Zelensky, but about the Ukrainian ambassador in Germany, Andriy Melnyk (The title means "It's enough, Mr Melnyk"). And he is indeed a problem for Ukraine in my eyes. The issue with him is his total disregard of diplomacy. @TMDaines said "with friends likes these" and I would totally agree if Melnyk treated Germany like a friend. He doesn't. He constantly acts in a way like he can give orders to the German government and then publicly moans when his orders aren't fulfilled. So the way he acts basically denies Germany any sovereignty in the current situation, which is an interesting stance for an ambassador of a country that is forced to fight a war to keep its sovereignty.
This behaviour of him is totally over the top so he appears to be someone who is a maniac who would say everything just to get what he wants. He isn't the girl in a miniskirt calling for help, he is more the three year old child who throws a tantrum if he doesn't get what he wants. This is why it is easy to discredit Ukrainian claims about war crimes etc - they are made by an annoying brat, not by someone who is held in high regard and thought to be a reliable partner.
Obviously not everyone in Germany sees him this way, but those close to Russia definitely do and a lot more people are open to the points he makes, but are also highly critical of his behaviour and style. Some celebrate him for "calling out the corrupt politicians", but getting this kind of approval is right for a politician who wants to win elections against others (who he might happily call out in this way), but not for a diplomat who needs to convince those who aren't convinced yet.
It also doesn't help that he has some sympathy for Nazi collaborateur Stepan Bandera, essentially proving Russia's claim about Ukraine being a Nazi country, but this isn't a major factor right now (but has been some years ago when he visited Bandera's grave, so those close to the matter surely still have this present).
And I get that this is a very German problem, because Melnyk isn't relevant anywhere else, so that this discussion must seem weird to those of you who are simply blessed by Ukrainian ambassadors that aren't as annoying as he is.
To be clear, yes Germany is dragging everything out to long and the German performance in this whole affair is not up to the expectations of the world and most Germans alike.
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@oryxspionkoep and @kemal_115 to keep track of losses
@kamilkazani for cultural background threads about the Russians
@TrentTelenko usually tweets about logistics, especially the Russian issues
@MarkHertling as retired general giving some top-level insights/overview over the situation
@jmvasquez1974 (US volunteer fighting for Ukraine)
This list is one that I follow: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1378399759992512516
It's got a bunch of different users (including almost all of those mentioned) and was recommended by, I think, Bellingcat at the start of the war?
@TheStudyofWar for the most detailed updates on the situation map.
Or just use the website - https://www.understandingwar.org/
Or just use the website - https://www.understandingwar.org/
I dont get it mate. You said i missed the point bc you were talking about Melynk not zelensky but your openning statement that i quoted you equated the steinmeier no visit to the ambassadors and in this last message you said that zelensky did well on calling germany out and as well you recognize that germany is dragging its feet.
I find it contradictory.
On the subject that tge ukranian ambassador behavior abd zelensky calling out gives votes to russian fascist state friendly politician, and we have to fear that, there is a sentence of i dont remember who that said: you dont fear fascism, you fight it
You have to call out fascist friendly politicians and if those convince voters, it means that they are fascist inclined also, they are not converting anyone, they were colset fascists all along, because it would not occur to me because they would call out one if my politicians, that now i would support what russia is doing
Well done Putin, you've been uniting the West even more.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...lloyd-austin-2a7cd301a33083e46490fe954039b550
I get it sounds contradictory, I apologize for it. The Steinmeier incident for me was just the tip of the iceberg of Ukrainian diplomatic failure in Germany, but 90% of that is Melnyk's fault. I didn't realize there wasn't a translation for the article that only talked about Melnyk, maybe that would have made things clear.
The point broken down is: Melnyk behaves like a fascist
He is representing Ukraine, so if you want to understand the situation like that you can claim this to be a war between two fascist states, we would have to fight both or neither based on that sentiment.
Zelensky made a dumb move by not wanting Steinmeier to visit, but I don't think he is anyway near as toxic as Melnyk to the Ukrainian cause, on the contrary. Without the scorched earth Melnyk created it could maybe even have been a powerful statement. The way it was, it just became part of Ukrainian diplomatic failure - which isn't Zelensky's fault, it was ill-advised but understandable I guess.
Melnyk's job is to make Germany do what Ukraine wants. Antagonizing Germany/German politicans accomplishes the opposite. So while it's absolutely right to critize Scholz's hesitancy on almost everything, Melnyk is doing it the wrong way. He's failing his job.
The Steinmeier visit is a case in point. He had already admitted that his policy towards Russia was a mistake, they could have used that admission to ask for something. Instead they used Steinmeier's visit to open up a side show that doesn't benefit Ukraine at all, but actually fuels pro Russian narratives. It's shambolic.
The Steinmeier visit is a case in point. He had already admitted that his policy towards Russia was a mistake, they could have used that admission to ask for something. Instead they used Steinmeier's visit to open up a side show that doesn't benefit Ukraine at all, but actually fuels pro Russian narratives. It's shambolic.
Looking forward to the remake of The Americans: The Russians.The wig ffs
I can’t post this but I wish someone could. There’s a guy called Francis Scarr on twitter who has posted a release from the Russians with what is purportedly a Ukrainian neo-nazi “starter pack”, replete with swastika. The reason it’s so ridiculous is that within the starter pack there are 3 copies of the computer game Sims 3. So it seems as though there’s been a breakdown in communication within the FSB where they’ve been asked to include in their photo 3 Sims (as in SIM cards) and have ended up with Sims 3! It beggars belief.
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It is Biden's job to make Germany do what they have to do. It is the Ukrainians' job to show that Germans are still helping Putin.
Too many Germans were making money with Putin, you don't expect them to give it up without applying force on them. I think the best would be to get some lists with who was getting how much money from Putin, I am sure there will be some surprises in there.
The big problem with Germany today is that many politicians were corrupted by Russian money.
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