Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Lots of whataboutery police in here ironically taking things off topic more than actual whataboutery

yeah it’s getting quite annoying considering the current discussion really isn’t whataboutism at all..
 
Yes. I've personally known 2 of them. One who fought in Vietnam and another who fought in the War on Terror. The one who fought in Vietnam has a few chapters about him in the book 13 Cent Killers and worked with my mom at the post office (of all places). The other's son wrestles for me. I've had the opportunity to talk to both of them about their time as a sniper and the one thing they both really emphasize is that as a sniper, you can see the face of the person you're about to kill... and that takes a toll on you. Unless you're in hand to hand combat, most of the time you'll never see the face of the guy you're killing. It takes some serious internal fortitude to do that job.

Not only that, but sometimes they watch somebody for weeks. Learn their habits, who their friends and family are, what they like to do with their time, how they take their coffee etc. Then they have to shoot them.
 
Not only that, but sometimes they watch somebody for weeks. Learn their habits, who their friends and family are, what they like to do with their time, how they take their coffee etc. Then they have to shoot them.
Think you are talking about some assassins, not combat snipers.
 

Yes, but I think the valid analogy would be the US Army + Marine Corps committing 75% of their active duty forces to an operation, and then taking significant losses. Despite there being another 8 National Guard divisions in reserve, you'd still have to say that US effective forces would be getting suffering significant attrition. Not all manpower is the same, especially in modern war.
 
@AFP: #BREAKING Biden's comments on Putin "unacceptable and unforgivable," Kremlin says
 
The bit explaining what the reference to the Freikorps meant.
But the reference to 'Freikorps' was introduced out of nowhere. If I say that Kharkiv reminds me of Aleppo, does that open the door to discussions of the Syrian War?
 
So what kind of posts about Syria, Yemen, WW1, Israel/Palestine, WW2, etc are acceptable in this thread?
Anything that isn’t doing this…


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If you still don’t understand, please PM me and stop derailing the thread.
 
Watch them break off peace talks and say they won't restart till biden apologises

Russia murder thousands of women and children a day, however, a couple of words against them, is the worst thing on earth apparently
 
Anything that isn’t doing this…


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If you still don’t understand, please PM me and stop detailing the thread.
I know that definition. But it's not what the other thread was created over. Nobody ever talked about other wars around the world in this thread in order to minimise Russia's invasion or Putin's crimes.

But, fine. If you want to retrospectively change the reasons for splitting the thread, I'll pretend to agree.
 
@therecount: President Biden: “I think [Putin] is a war criminal.”

Yet another instance where Biden provokes Russia.

I knew Putin was right to start the war. Completely justified.
 
But the reference to 'Freikorps' was introduced out of nowhere. If I say that Kharkiv reminds me of Aleppo, does that open the door to discussions of the Syrian War?
How exactly they draw the line depends on how much the mods like you. You've been around a long time you'd get away with a lot I expect! :D
 
But the reference to 'Freikorps' was introduced out of nowhere. If I say that Kharkiv reminds me of Aleppo, does that open the door to discussions of the Syrian War?

I’m sure you understand the difference between, say…

“This is awful, it reminds me of/parallels may be drawn with the invasion of Iraq…” and “This is awful, but what about the invasion of Iraq?”
 
But the reference to 'Freikorps' was introduced out of nowhere. If I say that Kharkiv reminds me of Aleppo, does that open the door to discussions of the Syrian War?

As a historical analogy to a directly relevant and comparible event in post WW1 Germany, I think it is relevant. Given that Putin has levelled Syrian cities in the same way that he is levelling Ukrainian ones, I would say for me that point is well made. Both events speak to the potential next steps of a dictator which could impact millions of people living in a democracy.
 
These places are being struck due to the imprecision of the weapons, yes? Surely they're not being targeted...