Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
Or rather, this is the one out of a hundred such instances that was caught on camera.
 
Except, you know, the next Tweet in the Twitter thread shows the car with bodies in it. But I guess that must be staged as well. Right?
Did it? I stand corrected yet again.

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Awful stuff.

But I'm supposed to feel bad if that same APC shows up later on as a burning wreck... right...
As multiple people have already said, it's not about feeling sad about about Russian troops dying; it's about not actively celebrating death like this is some sort of gameshow. It's a very un-American concept, so I understand why you're having trouble with it :D
 
Oh man, this is too brilliant. Polish politicians are getting tired of those from Western Europe coming in for the photo opportunities. Italian journos then rip into Salvini for walking away.





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The problem here is that the Russian people have never even really experienced democracy. Under the Tsars, many people were virtually slaves (serfs), Stalin had total power and murdered millions, no democracy under the Communist Party leaders that followed, then a brief "something" with the collapse of the Soviet Union until Putin took over.

Yes, you are probably correct, democracy as a political dictum has hardly existed in Russia for centuries if at all (not all that well up on my Russian history). The idea of a strong leader a Tsar, a Communist Dictator, or simply a Dictator like Putin, seems to run through the Russian consciousness, even when it leads to ultimate failure, sometimes ends in disaster, it must seem to ordinary Russians that 'well it was better than the last lot' ...so lets try again!


I think I misunderstood what you wrote!
OK, (see also above,)there just does not seem that there are enough Russians, with experience of democracy to want to oppose their government or to try to force a change.
 

Neutral, they say


Considering how despicable Chinese journalists worldwide have been in the last few years, especially those working with Global Times, I wish them all the "fun" they will get. Hopefully, it should be interesting if Ukrainian forces end up capturing a few of those Chinese reporters after we saw Western journalists getting shot at by Russian troops.

No surprises here. This should be blasted on Western news channels to once and for all remove any doubt where China stands with regard to its ambitions.

IKR? With the amount of shit that Chinese media spout against the West, a little bit of a direct payback is well deserved here.
 
Oh man, this is too brilliant. Polish politicians are getting tired of those from Western Europe coming in for the photo opportunities. Italian journos then rip into Salvini for walking away.



What was he even thinking going there? Jesus, those people seem to think everybody has the memory of a gold fish. Complete lack of self reflection
 
What was he even thinking going there? Jesus, those people seem to think everybody has the memory of a gold fish. Complete lack of self reflection
It’s a real shame Patel didn’t get a lynching.
 
Except, you know, the next Tweet in the Twitter thread shows the car with bodies in it. But I guess that must be staged as well. Right?
With all due respect - it would be quite easy to stage with the dead bodies,

Just seems, in this war of propaganda, that this might not be all it's cracked up to be. Everything seemed to fall into place at the right place at the right time (or wrong time even).
 
Watch it closely. The old man obviously sees the military vehicles coming from the other way (you can just about see this through the brush from the video) and rightfully stops, as anyone would.

Cameras are ubiquitous these days, how do you know it's the only one in the area?
I'm questioning the fact that he stops in view of the camera. When he could have stopped anywhere/turned around/reversed. It's clear that this is some sort of entrance to a gated warehouse, there's one other pole there and nothing else in view of the camera.

Anyhow, I'm not going to debate this as it's clear someone lost their lives during this incident, whatever it may have been.

I was just trying to question the fact that this could be staged quite easily.
 
I'm questioning the fact that he stops in view of the camera. When he could have stopped anywhere/turned around/reversed. It's clear that this is some sort of entrance to a gated warehouse, there's one other pole there and nothing else in view of the camera.

Anyhow, I'm not going to debate this as it's clear someone lost their lives during this incident, whatever it may have been.

I was just trying to question the fact that this could be staged quite easily.
Because this is happening daily over there and this is the one in a hundred that caught perfectly on camera?
 
I'm questioning the fact that he stops in view of the camera. When he could have stopped anywhere/turned around/reversed. It's clear that this is some sort of entrance to a gated warehouse, there's one other pole there and nothing else in view of the camera.

Anyhow, I'm not going to debate this as it's clear someone lost their lives during this incident, whatever it may have been.

I was just trying to question the fact that this could be staged quite easily.
Let's say it is revealed to be staged, it would be ridiculously stupid for the Ukrainian authorities to have done so, given how many incidents like this are being reported every day.
 


It seems like even the rank and file in the Russian intelligence agencies a) didn't know about the invasion and b) thought it was a shitty idea. I read the whole report and it's a fascinating read. Even more interesting is it was written on March 1.
 
I'm questioning the fact that he stops in view of the camera. When he could have stopped anywhere/turned around/reversed. It's clear that this is some sort of entrance to a gated warehouse, there's one other pole there and nothing else in view of the camera.

Anyhow, I'm not going to debate this as it's clear someone lost their lives during this incident, whatever it may have been.

I was just trying to question the fact that this could be staged quite easily.

I see one of two things that could cause him to stop there.

He could have seen the APC through the gap in the trees.
There is also something coming down the road towards the car. It moves to avoid the first bullet spall and then goes around the car, probably a rat or something. He could have slowed or stopped for that, the same way you would if a dog runs in front of your own car.
 
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
It looks suspicious because the video has a full view of everything, but that's probably just coincidence. If you look at google street view of where that happened, it's just monitoring the gate to a private house. I imagine more and more recordings like this will surface once people check their private security cameras. This supposedly happened on the 28th of February, and is only now on twitter. Earlier that day a Ukrainian official said they had destroyed a Russian convoy near Makariv, where this took place, but more Russian troops were still in the area. Of course that doesn't prove anything but I think it gives some context.
 
Powerful speech from Biden. US banning all gas and energy imports from Russia
 
With all due respect - it would be quite easy to stage with the dead bodies,

Just seems, in this war of propaganda, that this might not be all it's cracked up to be. Everything seemed to fall into place at the right place at the right time (or wrong time even).

"Right lads, I need a convoy of military vehicles driving past. We've only got six so space 'em out. "
"Billy, rig that car to stop at the exact moment I say."
"Trev. I want those dead bodies in that car and propped up for the close ups ASAP! No we need 'em in now so the tank fire can maim them."
"Tank Driver! Time your drive by so that you notice the car and shoot it through the trees just as it stops. You need to time it perfectly. If you can, also blow up the stop sign for added effect. Think you can handle that? Good lad."
"Now, I'll remind everyone we've only got a couple of cars and one stop sign so no arsing around. That convoy also needs to be elsewhere by 2pm. We need to get this in as few takes as possible."
"Positions everyone!"
 
As multiple people have already said, it's not about feeling sad about about Russian troops dying; it's about not actively celebrating death like this is some sort of gameshow. It's a very un-American concept, so I understand why you're having trouble with it :D
I’m not the one having trouble.
 
Powerful speech from Biden. US banning all gas and energy imports from Russia

I hope governments have support plans ready because energy is going to get seriously expensive and test peoples' support of these sanctions. Oil price is at 128 and getting very close to all time record. The cost of these sanctions cannot be borne entirely by the citizens and it takes 8-12 months to increase the supply from other sources.
 
How big a blow is this to Russia?
The key here is how much of an impetus the US decision has upon other European allies. It could well be the perfect excuse that some European politicians wanted to start moving towards different energy sources, making deals with other non-Russian entities.