Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Is this true?
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This has been one of the most eye opening things for me: It feels really weird to have a war unfold through social media and the battle being fought in digital space too. People will correctly say there's always been propaganda and resistance that's been broadcast though media channels and that's true, but it's so much more immediate now.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60629851

I wonder what Russia's excuse is for reneging on the ceasefire and continuing to bomb Mariupol. Something about Ukrainians or the West provoking them I imagine.
Pretty sure Lavrov already blamed Ukraine forces for not ceasing fire. Classic ‘no he did it first sir!’.

Problem is, even if it was Ukraine who fired first, whatever Russia say now after the constant lies which are refuted with evidence against them just makes them untrustworthy. Who, aside from the Russian public (if that) is going to believe them?
 
I wonder if we'll see Russians defect. Plenty of Soviets defected. Then again, you might find your coffee poisoned one day.
 
Pretty sure Lavrov already blamed Ukraine forces for not ceasing fire. Classic ‘no he did it first sir!’.

Problem is, even if it was Ukraine who fired first, whatever Russia say now after the constant lies which are refuted with evidence against them just makes them untrustworthy. Who, aside from the Russian public (if that) is going to believe them?

It's likely, that russians tried to advance during the ceasefire (someone mentioned they might try it as they've been doing it in Syria), ukranians opened fire, and then russians took that as breaking cease fire. I mean, sure as hell if someone tried to advance or flank me during cease fire, I'd not allow it.
 
This ceasefire is basically the boy who cried wolf. No one would believe the Russians based on their track record of previous campaigns and the Ukrainian 'special operation'.
 
Where are we on how we think all of this is going right now ? Are the Russians still gaining or are they bogged down already ?
 
Also not mentioned in the headline, all the intel that Ukrainians are receiving about Russian troop locations and movements.
Can someone remind me how NATO are not involved in this war?!

For all Russia's bluster about taking revenge on countries getting involved, it's clear that NATO are 100% actively involved in this war.
 
Where are we on how we think all of this is going right now ? Are the Russians still gaining or are they bogged down already ?

I think this is probably right:



I don't see how, even if the Russian military encircles Kyiv, which is questionable, Putin thinks he can control Ukraine short of mass murder. Controlling the Russian population who have been under authoritarian (at times totalitarian) rule for over a century is one thing, but the Ukrainians won't be so easily cowed. Huge caveat that it's still very early, but Russia has committed almost all of its forces and is still making slow progress. It seems that Putin wanted to follow the Rumsfeld plan for Iraq but with far worse equipment, preparedness, and soldiers.
 
What and him invading a country and bombing the shit out of it isn’t declaring war? :wenger:

This fella is beyond reasoning with.

These sort of people only understand strength. I'd say NATO should first hack into Russian main information sites flooding them with Videos of how Moscow and St Petersburg would look after being nuked and then it should impose a no flight zone over Ukraine.
 
Can someone remind me how NATO are not involved in this war?!

For all Russia's bluster about taking revenge on countries getting involved, it's clear that NATO are 100% actively involved in this war.

Well of course NATO is involved. The sanctions for one are a form of economic warfare.
 
Can someone remind me how NATO are not involved in this war?!

For all Russia's bluster about taking revenge on countries getting involved, it's clear that NATO are 100% actively involved in this war.
Nato countries are pouring weapons daily into Ukraine, of course they are involved.
 
I think this is probably right:



I don't see how, even if the Russian military encircles Kyiv, which is questionable, Putin thinks he can control Ukraine short of mass murder. Controlling the Russian population who have been under authoritarian (at times totalitarian) rule for over a century is one thing, but the Ukrainians won't be so easily cowed. Huge caveat that it's still very early, but Russia has committed almost all of its forces and is still making slow progress. It seems that Putin wanted to follow the Rumsfeld plan for Iraq but with far worse equipment, preparedness, and soldiers.


It seems the Russian plan is slowly falling apart before our eyes, which is why they have changed tactics in recent days to go far more violent. Between their calamitous logistical problems, terrible C2 of their forces, and the looming Armageddon of the Russian economy, I'd say I'd say its all going very wrong for Putin at the moment.
 
Seeing some quotes in Polish media of Putin saying operation is nearly complete, is it actually becoming probable that they leave in the next few weeks, he feeds his country some bullshit about mission accomplished and things get much better? Wouldn’t get my hopes up but it doesn’t seem nearly as outlandish as it would have a few days ago.
 
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I wouldn't be against NATO telling Russia that they will remove all sanctions as soon as the last Russian troop is out of Ukraine.

I know the idea of the sanctions is to punish Russia but I think the main priority is to try and bring peace back to Ukraine. Russia would realise if they try something like this again the sanctions would immediately come back and Putin could sell it to the Russian public as him saving the economy.
 
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CNN's coverage of this war has been top notch, which is not surprising given that they have been doing it well for decades. I remember watching Gulf War 1 in the early 90s with Bernard Shaw, Peter Arnette, and John Holliman reporting from Iraq as the US bombing started.
 
Seeing some quotes in Polish media of Putin saying operation is nearly complete, is it actually becoming probable that they leave in the next few weeks, he feeds his country some bullshit about mission accomplished and things get much better? Wouldn’t get my hopes up but it doesn’t seem nearly as outlandish as it would have a few days ago.

how would he sell that?
 
CNN's coverage of this war has been top notch, which is not surprising given that they have been doing it well for decades. I remember watching Gulf War 1 in the early 90s with Bernard Shaw, Peter Arnette, and John Holliman reporting from Iraq as the US bombing started.

well, US media has quite the experience when it comes to reporting about war :angel:
 
Seeing some quotes in Polish media of Putin saying operation is nearly complete, is it actually becoming probable that they leave in the next few weeks, he feeds his country some bullshit about mission accomplished and things get much better? Wouldn’t get my hopes up but it doesn’t seem nearly as outlandish as it would have a few days ago.
Yeah read about his claims demilitarisation was nearly complete as well. Just unsure whose demilitarisation at this point
 
how would he sell that?
Well considering they now control all media in Russia and arrest people over saying basically anything that isn’t propaganda, I don’t think he would find it very difficult to sell it to whoever he needs to sell it to. For others with access to worldwide media there’s no outcome where he can win anyway.
 
This has been one of the most eye opening things for me: It feels really weird to have a war unfold through social media and the battle being fought in digital space too. People will correctly say there's always been propaganda and resistance that's been broadcast though media channels and that's true, but it's so much more immediate now.
Yeah, people have tried to argue Syria was the first, but I don’t think it was to the same extent. You had to actively seek that out, whereas this is just a deluge of information every hour. Smart phones, social networks and 3G/LTE Internet are now far more widely adopted than they were during the opening years of Syria.
 
Seeing some quotes in Polish media of Putin saying operation is nearly complete, is it actually becoming probable that they leave in the next few weeks, he feeds his country some bullshit about mission accomplished and things get much better? Wouldn’t get my hopes up but it doesn’t seem nearly as outlandish as it would have a few days ago.

how would he sell that?

If that tweet was true about them forcing out Ukrainians in that Eastern province and replacing them with Russians then by ‘liberating’ those two ‘Russian’ provinces to add to Crimea. Sham elections to follow.

Not having a puppet government in Kyiv would be a hard sell though.
 
If that tweet was true about them forcing out Ukrainians in that Eastern province and replacing them with Russians then by ‘liberating’ those two ‘Russian’ provinces to add to Crimea. Sham elections to follow.

Not having a puppet government in Kiev would be a hard sell though.
They wouldn’t even know what’s going on Kyiv mate.

Actually some theories here that he doesn’t actually know what is going on there, that he’s bunkered up and only fed whatever his generals may want him to hear. Weird as feck but nothing about this whole thing is any different.
 
Not sure Zelensky's newest tactic to blame NATO for not enforcing the no-fly zone is going to be productive.

It is infuriating NATO cannot step in but he should be careful not to antagonise his allies and especially lose the public opinion in the West.

Might sound cynical but I just don't think there's appetite for this action.
 
Putin is not mad.
He has made a calculated gamble.

He knows in a conventional war Russia will lose with heavy losses on both sides.
His one trump card is Nukes.

His hope is among all the slaves of the Military Industrial Complex on the West are some level headed politicians who will make the needed concessions that would mean Russia will still have a huge say on the future of Ukraine.

Hoping the sanctions will remove Putin is wishful thinking.

This is the most serious situation the world has been in since 1962.

But look at the players on the international stage we have now.
 
Putin is not mad.
He has made a calculated gamble.

He knows in a conventional war Russia will lose with heavy losses on both sides.
His one trump card is Nukes.

His hope is among all the slaves of the Military Industrial Complex on the West are some level headed politicians who will make the needed concessions that would mean Russia will still have a huge say on the future of Ukraine.

Hoping the sanctions will remove Putin is wishful thinking.

This is most serious situation the world has been in since 1962.

But looks at the players on the international stage we have now.

These are mutually exclusive.
 
Not sure Zelensky's newest tactic to blame NATO for not enforcing the no-fly zone is going to be productive.

It is infuriating NATO cannot step in but he should be careful not to antagonise his allies and especially lose the public opinion in the West.

Might sound cynical but I just don't think there's appetite for this action.
You have to think laterally and think that it may be on purpose that this is being said so that Putin cannot say that the West is in cahoots with Ukraine.
 
Pretty sure Lavrov already blamed Ukraine forces for not ceasing fire. Classic ‘no he did it first sir!’.

Problem is, even if it was Ukraine who fired first, whatever Russia say now after the constant lies which are refuted with evidence against them just makes them untrustworthy. Who, aside from the Russian public (if that) is going to believe them?
Yeah, he could release footage of Ukrainian soldiers saying on camera "we are going to break the ceasefire first" and show a newspaper with today's date on it, and my gran standing there who also phones me to confirm that this all happened, and I wouldn't believe it at this point.
 
Not sure Zelensky's newest tactic to blame NATO for not enforcing the no-fly zone is going to be productive.

It is infuriating NATO cannot step in but he should be careful not to antagonise his allies and especially lose the public opinion in the West.

Might sound cynical but I just don't think there's appetite for this action.

He's attempting to shame NATO into a a NFZ, when that obviously won't work, since the US and others have made the correct calculation that a NFZ means shooting down Russian planes, which means NATO would be lured into a hot war with Russia. His frustration is obviously justified given that his life, that of his family, and his country are hanging in the balance. That said, it would appear the approach that is working is arming Ukrainian units with intelligence and sophisticated weapons, and simultaneously strangling the Russian economy into submission. Short of suicide (nukes), the odds that Putin will eventually have to capitulate are growing by the day.