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That's why he would be removed by internal means to where he wouldn't have the ability to do any of that.
But I just cannot imagine how that would practically be possible unless someone actually kills him.
 
Macron's humiliation continues.
Exactly. I wonder if he is just doing that deliberately to look as a main negotiator, who may end this bloody invasion? Does he believe that French population like that?
 
The moment he launches a nuke all the western world will hunt him and he'll have less than 24 hours till he dies.

Given today's nuke power, not even the most crazy ass idiots will start a nuke war. Putin will launch the nuke, but won't live to see it's effects. That's the only way to stop a nuke war, you kill the idiot that has them.

How would be hunted down? Are you suggesting that an SAS team could be somehow be smuggled into into Moscow and then somehow be able to penetrate inside the Kremlin and kill him? If so, that's fanciful in the extreme.
 
Macron's humiliation continues.

The US probably see it that way given how everything is so posture focused but Macron is doing the right thing. Whether it's futile or not diplomacy and talks have to be attempted, it takes a better politician willing to do it than those who hide in case it backfires on them politically.
 
Exactly. I wonder if he is just doing that deliberately to look as a main negotiator, who may end this bloody invasion? Does he believe that French population like that?

I once that he was a badass. Now I just think he's bad (and not in the Michael Jackson sense).

He can't help himself from wanting to be a modern day Chamberlain.
 


You can force them to go in, but you can't force them to fight. They would more likely down arms and provide humanitarian aid for the people.

But it's rubbish news anyway. No way Russia does that. It does not make any sense.
 
The US probably see it that way given how everything is so posture focused but Macron is doing the right thing. Whether it's futile or not diplomacy and talks have to be attempted, it takes a better politician willing to do it than those who hide in case it backfires on them politically.

Talks can happen, but Macron is powerless and is only being used by Putin to flog the facade that he is amenable to diplomacy, all the while he continues to escalate his campaign on civilians. Every chapter involving Putin includes a useful idiot, and Macros appears hellbent on auditioning for the role in this episode.
 
Macron's humiliation continues.
I mean, really? People in Europe do not want war, if the idiot in the Kremlin can talk to someone, it's better than him being completely isolated with no insight on what he's saying/looking for.

Also, this is a way to show the world he's unreasonable. As Zelensky said, I'll try but I expect nothing.
 
I do not think that he is doing anything wrong, to be fair.
Me neither. He serves as an alternative channel of communication. Speaking to Biden will only come if there's a real possibility of some sort of agreement, while Putin won't be entertaining calls with Blinken or Burns (CIA Director, former ambassador to Russia) all the time simply because they're not heads of state. But Macron is head of state so Putin will speak to him. As long as Macron isn't coming out of the conversations and pitching to the rest of NATO that he has a deal that turns out to be a sham, nor is he offering concessions that the rest of NATO isn't willing to abide by, then there is still the possibility that in these conversations with Macron the beginnings of a deal can start to be formed if Putin ever becomes convinced that he needs one. Plus it allows NATO to continuously assess Putin's tone and anything that can be derived from that.
 
I do not think that he is doing anything wrong, to be fair.
In fact, he's what Neville Chamberlain would look like if he did not step down and still continued to deny the dark reality in front. No wonder why History is not kind to him while it has lauded the man who came after him as Prime Minister.
 
How would be hunted down? Are you suggesting that an SAS team could be somehow be smuggled into into Moscow and then somehow be able to penetrate inside the Kremlin and kill him? If so, that's fanciful in the extreme.
When weapons that can destroy a planet are being used, assassinating him or bombing the feck out of Kremlin until it's a 300 meter hole is not even close to being fanciful.
What's the other way, send nukes all over the world? This is not a game or a movie.
 
Yeah, it's absolutely brutal. Our economy was shit in the first place but what had happened over the past few days was nothing short of catastrophic — and it's only the beginning. Since we'll obviously going to see more and more consequences in the next few weeks & months. By all projections if nothing changes we're going to drop back to the early 90's level — and, considering that "do you want back to the 90's" was one of Putin's most effective counter-arguments to any critique of his internal policy it'll probably cause a huge reaction... in a bit though. People need to feel long-term consequences, right now what we see can be written off by some (who don't really understand more global economical processes) as a panic reaction.
Sounds shit. Unfortunately war and consequences impact on a lot of people who don’t deserve it.

Look after yourself.
 
I mean, really? People in Europe do not want war, if the idiot in the Kremlin can talk to someone, it's better than him being completely isolated with no insight on what he's saying/looking for.

Also, this is a way to show the world he's unreasonable. As Zelensky said, I'll try but I expect nothing.

These chats are meaningless unless they have the capacity to produce something of value. Much like the fake Minsk talks, Putin is simply using this to his advantage to lower the perceived temperature while he continues doubling down on violence inside Ukraine. Again, simply talking for sake of a favorable media story isn't enough. The results of the meeting seem to reinforce this.
 
He's been used as a puppet all along. Putin laughing the moment he hangs up.
Not at all - I think Macron is the only one who can have a conversation with him at the moment, so he's trying, but madVlad just keeps confirming to the world that he's completely unhinged. No bad reflection on Macron at all - at least he's giving it a go. Obviously we now know it's pointless though so madVlad will now push it as far as he can to get what he wants - Ukraine for himself.
 
And now the Russian Attorney General's office (I think this is the correct translation; the government institution that prosecutes people) has stated that participation in the "so-called peaceful "anti-war protests"" will be treated as a participation in an activity of an extremist organisation, which is punishable by up to 6 years in prison.

Nice.
 
Talks can happen, but Macron is powerless and is only being used by Putin to flog the facade that he is amenable to diplomacy, all the while he continues to escalate his campaign on civilians.

Putin doesn't gain anything from such talks, at this stage no one is being persuaded by such an event either way. The US aren't willing to publicly hold suck talks because they know it'll look bad if they come out without a win, by plenty of accounts Macron is being sent after consulting with Biden. He takes the loss and if anything comes out of it it'll Biden who tries to take the win.
 
He's been used as a puppet all along. Putin laughing the moment he hangs up.

Exactly. I wonder if he is just doing that deliberately to look as a main negotiator, who may end this bloody invasion? Does he believe that French population like that?

In fact, he's what Neville Chamberlain would look like if he did not step down and still continued to deny the dark reality in front. No wonder why History is not kind to him while it has lauded the man who came after him as Prime Minister.

100%
 
Talks can happen, but Macron is powerless and is only being used by Putin to flog the facade that he is amenable to diplomacy, all the while he continues to escalate his campaign on civilians. Every chapter involving Putin includes a useful idiot, and Macros appears hellbent on auditioning for the role in this episode.

And your solution to this?
 
Putin doesn't gain anything from such talks, at this stage no one is being persuaded by such an event either way. The US aren't willing to publicly hold suck talks because they know it'll look bad if they come out without a win, by plenty of accounts Macron is being sent after consulting with Biden. He takes the loss and if anything comes out of it it'll Biden who tries to take the win.

The US can easily communicate directly with Putin with discretion. There is a direct channel of communication between both sides that doesn't require public dissemination.
 
The US can easily communicate directly with Putin with discretion. There is a direct channel of communication between both sides that doesn't require public dissemination.
So do you think Biden is talking to Putin and there's no readout, or do you think Putin is speaking to someone in the US government who isn't of the same status as him? Because I think neither.
 
How would be hunted down? Are you suggesting that an SAS team could be somehow be smuggled into into Moscow and then somehow be able to penetrate inside the Kremlin and kill him? If so, that's fanciful in the extreme.

We need a man who can get close to Putin, someone he would never suspect...
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The problem for NATO with a tactical nuke used inside Ukraine, if that were to happen, is that Ukraine is not part of NATO. Moreover, Putin would probably tell lies - either denying the fact, or claiming that NATO has smuggled in the nuke and detonated it in order to blacken Russia's name.

It's hard to know, but my guess is that NATO would not respond militarily by sending forces into Ukraine - because WWWIII would likely be the result. I hope this guess is correct.

An attack on a NATO member is a whole different kettle of fish.
You are correct. There would be no response to a tactical nuke used in Ukraine.