Look up the work of Carole Cadwalladr if anyone is confused about the UK response. She needs all the support she can get.
Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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According to The Times, Putin has added the Klitschko brothers to a 24 man 'kill list'. He also reportedly sent highly-trained mercenaries, including the private militia the Wagner Group, to kill both the Klitschkos and other targets including President Zelenskyy. The militia reportedly flew in to Ukraine five weeks ago and have been tracking the targets on the list and are awaiting the go-ahead to execute them, which, according to The Times, is expected to come once the negotiations with the Ukrainians inevitably break down.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk//article...s-ordered-to-kill-ukraine-president-cvcksh79d
The plans for public executions are presumably to round up any of those missed by the militia in the coming days and weeks.
Once the existing government is decapitated, Putin will presumably look to install a puppet government in their place.
It's very sad. I do feel for the Russian people and the young conscripts sent out on the frontline.
I remember the mid to late 90s and it seemed that Russia was modernising and becoming more western. I suppose for many in Russia this is an anathema in and of itself. That said, I can't help but think if Russia could've come along with the west and 'the global rules based order' it would be a lot better off than it is today. There were signs this could've happened early in Putin's reign but unfortunately here we are.
Based on the videos of russian POW, many of them said they didn't eat for 3-4 days. The cold must definitely be a big issue as well.
Plus, there're new reports of Ukrainian jets carrying strikes on them.
I would not be surprised if both the Klitschko brothers ultimately die. They have shown themselves to be two very courageous men indeed.
@GlastonSpur We all know what the answer is if Putin sent Nukes. It would be swift retaliation and not much would be left of this planet to be quite frank.
Do you believe more sanctions will follow, if Zelenskyy is killed?
I'm not sure how he can be removed from power. He has been in power so long that almost everything and everyone is now under his thumb.
Because the regime control almost all the media in Russia - and have severely restricted access to the internet inside Russia - a large majority of Russians believe the lies spun by Putin. Added to this is the existence of a very large, well-funded, internal security apparatus whose continued existence depends on Putin's survival.
So even if 10% of Russians were to rise up in open revolt, which is unlikely, they would be crushed - dubbed as "traitors" - with the approval of most Russians.
The only (slim) hope in my view is that enough members of his inner circle get so spooked by what's happening that they band together and conduct a palace coup.
But how do you think he can/will be removed from power?
For me, Swift makes Putin a lot of headache for sure, it’s an important boycott not just a small thing.
Hey, woah there. They're only 50% best newbie....
I wouldn't think so given that a vast majority (if not all) sanctions have already been thrown at him. Sad as it would be to see Zelenskyy go, it would probably also turn him into a martyr and make Ukrainians doubly resolute in fighting Putin. It would also reaffirm international resolve to get rid of Putin, as opposed to create a situation that would somehow allow him to survive this.
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Well yeah they knew full well because the US had been sharing the intelligence for some time before. I'd imagine the level of intelligence on the Olympics claim is reasonable assumption based on them meeting.
He's a phenomenal person Vida.
I think he's gone that poster.
News reports i saw a couple of days ago said the mercenaries had been found and killed.
The Wagner Group especially showed themselves to not be all that fearsome in Syria.
Needed to by the looks of it. Full meltdown.
Every leader can be removed from power, whether by revolution, assassination, peaceful coup (involving an arrest by coup plotters) etc. Putin relies on people around him and a security and intelligence apparatus to protect him. If things get bad enough in Russia, replete with images of crackdowns, imprisonments, the murder of dissenting voices, a severe curtailment of basic services etc., then the chances of someone or a group within his inner circle taking matters into their own hands goes up significantly.
That's what I thought - more like two Ukranian houses.
I don't think he's going anywhere any soon and rest assured if he would be removed he would take the world with him before leaving.
You can see on the road above their are identical shaped vehicles spaced evenly apart. I can count 9 vehicles.
Hell yes Ukraine!
Politicians here advocating cyberwarfare and no fly zones obviously speak for the Military Industrial Complex which wants a war.
People supporting this obviously have not thought all this through.
People supporting this obviously have not thought all this through.
The problem for NATO with a tactical nuke used inside Ukraine, if that were to happen, is that Ukraine is not part of NATO. Moreover, Putin would probably tell lies - either denying the fact, or claiming that NATO has smuggled in the nuke and detonated it in order to blacken Russia's name.
It's hard to know, but my guess is that NATO would not respond militarily by sending forces into Ukraine - because WWWIII would likely be the result. I hope this guess is correct.
An attack on a NATO member is a whole different kettle of fish.
But the thing is the moment Nukes are sent WW3 has already begun.
Them not being a NATO member would mean nothing in that scenario I believe.
The moment he launches a nuke all the western world will hunt him and he'll have less than 24 hours till he dies.
Given today's nuke power, not even the most crazy ass idiots will start a nuke war. Putin will launch the nuke, but won't live to see it's effects. That's the only way to stop a nuke war, you kill the idiot that has them.
humans really are the worst.
That's why he would be removed by internal means to where he wouldn't have the ability to do any of that.
Inconclusive based on that image tbh.
In 24 hours the cnut could obliterate the entire west if he wanted to but on the other hand Russia would also within 24 hours be gone.
