What's next delete Russia from the Atlas?
It's getting ridiculous. I think companies are looking to appear to be doing the right thing, rather than doing the right thing.
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It's getting ridiculous. I think companies are looking to appear to be doing the right thing, rather than doing the right thing.
Someone still flies mig 21
You'd be surprised at how many countries still operate the Mig-21.
I believe it's "all net proceeds", meaning most likely sale price minus debt, minus purchase price. If sale price is £2b it therefore would be around £350m donated.
Interesting as well as the donation terminology is "victims of the war". Certainly not specifically Ukrainians.
What's wrong about it?
That's precisely what it is. After all, who wants to be the off man out in doing nothing when other companies are viewed by the public as taking action.
Elaborate please.
You knew all along and you did feck all to stop it, Pooh. A special place in hell awaits for you too.
China had a lot of interest in how this plays out.
If the west had wavered and whimpered, that would tell them a lot about how an invasion of Taiwan could go.
This will definitely be a cause for pause for them.
A lot still have these, but for nato country to be operating it is practically useless.
It assumes that everyone in Russia supports Putin. We all know Russian people aren't free to express themselves politically, it's a dictatorship.
The other day a Russian tennis player wrote on a camera - "no war please". Soon people like him won't have a platform to earn on, let alone express themselves. It's a matter of scheduling. Had he been knocked out of this tournament, he'd have been probably cancelled by the next.
Sanction the state, sanction people with close political ties, put on the financial sanctions but this "cancelling" of Russia and everyone Russian is disturbing.
Especially considering everyone is will buying Russian oil and gas. Meanwhile the press have a hardon for the Pakistani PM for buying wheat and signing a long agreed energy deal.
Oh, if you think that's a breach of the Geneva Convention, then read this official statement on their official account...
A bit strong that. The translations are probably not helping, but the entire page looks like a social media intern had too much caffeine.
/r/soccer on Reddit is collectively creaming itself in praise of this oligarch thug. It's truly an outstanding example of successful sportswashing. This cnut got away with it.
Roman and Putin will see themselves as victims no doubt
I'm guessing Abromovich doesn't expect this situation to de-escalate anytime soon. I'm guessing Putin has told them all this is his 'all-in' play. If he expected Putin to take a portion of Ukraine and then pause the attack to 'negotiate' (but just calm the storm so he could go again in 7 years), then he would just hold on to Chelsea and get it back once negotations were done. But he's selling immediately which is a bit worrying, unless he wanted to sell in beforehand anyway and this was a way for him to get some money out of it before sanctions locked him out of it
So they’re not independent after all? If they can’t even condemn genuine evil. You’re a complete joke I must say.
I wrote this on another post...
Also think about the Russian fans who've bought the game, or the Russian clubs who feature in the game. What have any of them done wrong?
IDK, some of them might be hardcore putin puppets, for all i know.
I also don't want to point out the hypocrisy in the position western businesses and world sporting bodies have taken against another state which occupies land and regularly commits grave human rights violations. TBH that could refer to a shit ton of countries - thats the sad fact. I'm deliberately choosing not to name any one country, because a part of me feels by doing so i take away from the focus on Ukraine. However I and a lot of other people are absolutely seething about how the Western world has gone about it's approach to this conflict, compared to others. it's for another thread though - i don't want anyone to think i'm taking anything away from the suffering of the people of Ukraine, or doing whataboutery in favour of Putin. As far as i'm concerned, he can do one.
I'm not sure he'd be that brazen. However there are lots of Russian victims in this affair.
I think he can feel that way if he like.
It’s more noble to stand up for what is right irrespective of the impact on yourself. Sitting on the fence of inaction is pretty inexcusable under the circumstances
Exactly, it's not like Europe won't feel the economical consequences of their sanctions
Fair enough, I clearly need to get to know more Ukrainians in that case
Perogies, cabbage rolls and sausages galore.
So Kherson does seem to have fallen to the Russians:
Europe has plenty to lose from condemning Russia.
The start and end of your post are completely contradictory. If we could 'walk an independent path', we'd have called the cnut out. We can't because we rely too much on him which is why I said us abstaining is understandable. Doesn't make it any less disgusting though and of course I feel that given what's happening.
How would we ever genuinely know though
For a start they'd be hypocrites for condemning Putin when they're doing much worse in Kashmir and have done for 40+ years.
Secondly, they'd be pretty within their right to ask where the whole world was in condemnation and sanctions when China annexed Indian territory multiple times over the last couple of years.
Thirdly, they've sat back and worked with loads of other countries who have commited crimes equal to or greater than those commited by Putin in Ukraine today, so why would they make an exception now.
Lets not go on a tangent though.
I can't believe i'm a Pakistani defending India's politicans. The world is truly FUBAR.
I think you’ve got it spot on
So it’s more whataboutism
Make your own conclusions, it's very on trend nowadays anyway to ignore what was said and instead project what you want to say.
There's a separate thread for this.
This is very sad and disturbing, the optimist in me hoped the Ukrainians would hold their major cities.
I'm guessing that's the point. It's unlikely a charity will have its assets frozen though.
Re: Kyiv station
Difficult when Putin is bombing everything in sight
But this is a good thing. It creates unity in condemning the Russian invasion. And it matters if there is universal condemnation from everyone, in both small and large issues, even if it is just "public relations" for some companies.
I don’t want to say anything. I’m simply not for making excuses for people/countries not willing to do the right thing.
It was a matter of time I reckon. Not necessarily this thread, but on Reddit I was already seeing people get a little giddy thinking it was almost over.
Instead you have people moaning about EA removing Russian teams from FIFA 22
Just read that there’s a million buck bounty on Putin from a US-based oligarch.