Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Russian artillery outnumbered and outranged Ukraine's. If Putin hadn't gone for the full invasion would the west have shipped the longer ranged artillery or the tanks and AFV's?
I don't know as it is a what if, but I suspect not.
That's probably closer than anything I've seen yet.
He would make a great uncle fester.
Lazy and treacherous democracies? Who are you calling "lazy and treacherous"?
Germany and Turkey have something in common: they are responsible for the worst genocides in the 20th century. Did you know that Germans helped Turkey to commit the Armenian genocide? For example:
https://www.dw.com/en/new-report-details-germanys-role-in-armenian-genocide/a-43268266
Germany's role in the Armenian genocide
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It is really strange to me that a German is taking the stance of moral superiority! Especially after all the support that Germany has provided to Putin all these years before 2022, even after the invasion of 2014.
Now about Turkey, Germany should demand from their Turkish friends to 1) admit the Armenian genocide, and 2) return to Cyprus the part of the island they invaded in 1974 and they still unlawfully occupy despite numerous UN resolutions (the situation in Cyprus is similar to the occupation of the Crimea by the Russians).
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I had to laugh too.
Yes, these well-known treacherous democracies that all the Germans hate!
Zee Germans.
Does anybody think Putin could do something crazy like selling nukes to Iran to take the US‘s priorities off Ukraine onto Israel and the Middle East? Can’t see what he could really lose apart from killing any trade with Saudi.
Even under the extremely unlikely scenario where he did, it still wouldn't remove US focus on Ukraine. It would probably also initiate an instant Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear infrastructure.
No, not really. Also, the US is well capable to deal with multiple 'priorities' simultaneously. Relatively speaking, their aid to Ukraine is quite minor.
Selling nuclear weapons is a dangerous game that likely all big nations prefer to avoid, I reckon. Nothing to gain there for Putin, if anything the West will probably put the squeeze on him even more.
How is Schröder not under investigation for treason? Openly a Russian asset for many years.
It may take a long time, but those that carry this burden have secured a prosperous and free future for their children. I'm imagining a lot of investment and tourism. People flocking from around the world to hear incredible stories and do their bit to help rebuild.
Having zero tolerance for Russian/far-right propaganda gives them a unique opportunity to set an example to the world of what a democracy can and should be. Especially while having a 'not a cnut' politician to lead the way. EU membership will be a slam dunk once their borders are secure.
No, they will never see adequate reparations, but I expect their future is bright, or hope at least.
I suppose they would need to identify a tangible law that he's broken since being friendly with Putin is itself, probably not illegal.
Well the Turks had to learn from someone how to it right, didn't they?
I need help... I just can''t resist triggering him, it is just too easy
Because nothing he did as a politician appears to be treacherous. He made sure that Germany got a reliable energy supply from Russia, and good Russian/German relationships (especially personal relationships between the leaders) were often crucial for beneficial developments for Germany. In hindsight being close to Putin appears to be a mistake, but at the time there was broad support for it in Germany (and don't forget, that Putin himself appeared to be far more moderate than in later years).
Schröder left office in 2005, everything after that happened under Merkel as chancellor.
Exactly, he hasn't - any deal he made was beneficial at the time for Germany. There was a point in time when those deals should have been cancelled (in my opinion in 2014) - but that was much later.
If anything I think the other two names are more cause for concern, since Schröder is some dinosaur that's largely irrelevant today.
I certainly want to believe in a prosperous future for Ukraine. I understand when you say that national identity and spirit that has already been forged by this war, and would only grow in case of a victory, can drive the country forward in a way that wasn't possible before the war. But they need to win for this to be possible, and that's where I'm frustrated that they're not getting even more equipment, more supplies, more support.
Ukraine (Greece) supported a military coup d'état of Crimea (Cyprus) - which didn't belong to them - causing Russia (Turkey) to invade to ensure that Russian (Turkish) enclaves weren't attacked any longer like they had been at the beginning of the coup?
Top history lesson.
Bakhmut region looks better again after the last couple of days. Ukrainian forces advanced a few km on the flanks, the regular russian military seems to abandon their posts Wagner captured previously. Insane that Ukraine not only holds that position successfully, but also doing counter attacks. Fecking heros.
Regarding motivation, its a big if not huge part, Russians are thrown there from their every day lives to wage a mad man's war while Ukrainians are fighting for their homeland and existence itself.
Definitely. The only ones motivated to wage war on Russian side is Wagner. They are bloodthirsty mercenaries who live to fight, torture, kill and rape. The regular army was motivated only in the beginning, because they saw Ukraine as an easy target to loot and rape. Now they know better and I'm pretty sure most of them simply want to go home. That's why I expect they will start running as soon as Bradleys, Leopards and Challengers appear on the horizon. Their 5 layers of fortifications won't mean much if the troops won't fight to the death to defend them. At least, that's what the west is hoping.
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This would be such a huge news if true, well done UK.
Is that the edgiest name for a missile ever?
According to this, it's true and truly huge. Well done UK!
Ukraine could really destroy the Kerch bridge now if they wanted.
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My former wife is in Ukraine right now
....I think Ukraine will still want to wait for the cheap GLSDB (with a 150km range) to arrive first before pressing ahead with their plans. Undermining logistics to the point of collapse is the key. US better be quick in providing those, time is ticking.