If you do that, you kill the franchise of both countries, the top 14 and the premiership will take all the good players.
Rugby World Cup 2015 | Reminiscing Thread
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If you do that, you kill the franchise of both countries, the top 14 and the premiership will take all the good players.
Huge.
Absolutely, will hopefully end up being the best game so far although England Wales will be hard to top.
I'm not sure it makes a difference whether or not they're in the 6N for that. 20 of the current Georgia squad and 11 of the Romania squad already play their club rugby in France or England. It will be considerably more after this world cup.
Not having regular, high quality international competition is more detrimental to a national side than anything else. We've seen with Argentina that the good will and improved profile of the game since they joined the RC has led to more money, and the development of a professional league to actually entice their best players home again.
Yep. An England win would be great for the tournament.
I'm talking about Scotland and Italy, the only reason their players stay longer is because of the national team.
I think what should happen is that the bigger nations should sacrifice their tours for the next four years. For example, taking Ireland - we should sacrifice our November Internationals to be only about the smaller nations this year. I know it gives us a big ego boost because we usually do well against Southern Hemisphere teams in them but we should only play three smaller teams this year. It'd be a big hit on attendance and gate receipts etc. but it'd give extra matches to the smaller nations. The other Tier 1s should follow suit, maybe even rotate who takes the hit year to year for the next 4 years.
Second, we shouldn't be doing development tours to Argentina, Australia etc for the next few years. The next development tour should be to the US or Japan, for example. Doesn't matter if we take first rank players or not, it'd give a lot more exposure (6N champions coming to your country) and match practice.
Japan enter Super Rugby next season, so they don't need that and for the rest I don't care. We shouldn't sacrifice ourselves for them.
Oh cool, didn't know about that. The sacrifice will benefit everyone though. A global game, higher stakes, higher incomes, bigger crowds, a greater pool that the winners of competitions could come from. The game needs an Argentina/Ireland in a semi this year, a Tier 2 in a QF and a Tier 2 nation in a semi in the next 10-15 years would be really something else.
I'm failing to see the benefits you are mentioning, France already struggle to convince everyone that the national team is more important than the clubs, with a project like the one you mentioned it will show that it's not that important.
And the game don't need an Argentina/Ireland in semi, the game need the four best teams to qualify. Argentina organized themselves and will be stronger and stronger particularly with their new Super Rugby team who already signed almost all the international players, Ireland have no excuses and the game doesn't need professional bottlers.
So far I have highly enjoyed watching the RWC. Refreshing not to see players complaining all the time to the ref, crying and diving etc...
Rugby is a great game and it's very entertaining. Though players do complain to the referee, look closely at the scrum half around the rucks or during the scrums. Also Rugby is a game of cheat, so there is no moral high ground to have.
Yup, you'll see a lot of "highlighting" to the ref when they think there's an infringement - a lot of pointing, a lot of exasperated looks.
As an Irishman, I'll never forget this one
Samoa vs Japan
Big game this evening, England fans. How are you feeling? It sure would be humiliating to go out of your own World Cup in the group stage with a game to spare....
This is beyond pathetic by the Samoans. No respect for the laws of the game whatsoever.
Nice try
If it continues like this, there'll be a lot of "if only"s about what the Japanese could have done with a few days rest before they played Scotland..
Samoa, the feck?
Heads seem gone. A team who prefer open rugby meeting a really up for it, highly drilled team.
They're still in with a chance if they beat the US, aren't they?
Yup, in fact a really good chance if Scotland win today.
Oof, horrible injury there for the Japanese player, got clattered massively with a knee
how does a team get bonus points? how likely are Japan to qualify for the knockouts?
For scoring four tries and for losing by less 7 points or less.
If South Africa lose today, very likely.
No bonus points for winning by some margin?
South Africa look like they're going to win comfortably. So unless Scotland loses to Samoa, Japan are out, right?
No, just four tries and losing by a small margin...scoring more points helps for having a better points aggregate when teams have the same number of points....If South Africa win , yes..but its not a certain.. If they do win , then Japan will be depending on Samoa ...even if Japan dont make it, they have done very well..they hadnt won 1 match at the world cup since 95..they won 2 here , one against the two time world champions..the next world cup is in Japan too, so this has been a great world cup for them.
South Africa vs Scotland
Too easy for the spring box even with 14 far to good for Scotland
The defeat to Japan woke them up..there is enough talent in that team to give any team on the planet a game..even the All Blacks..its just the poor management of it all that is to blame.
What the feck was that, fecking disgrace of a performance from Samoa. Japan deserved to beat us by more, jeez.
12th World Cup try for Habana and 61st overall
That's incredible from Habana, what a career. Imagine if the Boks win the World Cup, after their horrendous start against Japan.
Holy shit I just looked up the other all time test try scorers, and Julian Savea is already 35 tries from only 38 tests. That's 0.921 tries per match. Looks like he'll overtake Habana easily if he stays relatively injury free.
Only 2 tries behind one of the GOAT Jonah Lomu
Here we go …
Eng by 5 points
England by one point would do me but I'm going to say 10+ points and BP for 4 tries
It will be far too edgy, nail biting stuff...but the Wales experience will benefit Eng here. This is the game of the tournament so far. Biggest game for England since 2007
Must say, this animation, "make them giants" and Paloma Faith's version of World in Union are big turn offs for me!