Ffs how wasn't this done before?
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Ffs how wasn't this done before?
I will take that every day of the week. Only way to consistently win is to control the match.
People have forgotten and we didn't always use to press but even under SAF we mostly controlled the matches. And if we were ever looking for a winner or equalizer we would completely box them in their penalty box and leave Rio to deal with the counters.
No, he wasn't. He was well onside and held his run for a few seconds, then was offside for a split second before moving back towards Antony looking for the pass which never came.
About 40 seconds into this you can see it.
He's got a tune out of these players. He's also intelligently coaching positioning at a very high level. Incredible how much we dominated that second half. You could actually make out the number of times the players were about to play a suicidal quick attack pass - and then seize up, and keep possession. That's a very good sign. You can see clear method and process. It's remarkable how quickly the group have shown discipline with the shape. Defensive transition is something we are struggling with right now, but the more we dominate games with the ball, the more times you learn how to deal with with quick counters. Let's see how they cope against Everton. I expect nothing but ball domination throughout. It's the counters from Everton and how we deal with them I'll be keeping my eye on.
I know we will get thumped at the Emirates. No doubt about it. But I want to see how Amorim sets the team up when you he's basically going against Arteta one hand tied behind his back. Will be fascinating.
I know we will get thumped at the Emirates. No doubt about it. But I want to see how Amorim sets the team up when you he's basically going against Arteta one hand tied behind his back. Will be fascinating.
Okay can you get the quotes then? I watched it and I never heard that he wont change his style of play...
Those runs from Hojlund are clearly instructed and it's so refreshing to see.
Moyes, Solskjær, Ten Hag
fantasy deadline tonight!Yes. Under SAF in most matches, apart from against really top teams, our CBs played from the halfway line and defenders were all required to defend one on one. Sometimes it leads to goals, but if we want to play attacking, front foot, high line football then that's the risk we take.
Yeah there's the classic "It's only Bodo/Glint" response but also we've been unable to control games against any teams, so this is a start. Plus Bodo are a solid side.
Isn’t every club doing this?
For the first time in a long time, we controlled the game. Opponents will always have chances in games, unfortunately, they were clinical and scored 2 really good goals.
Obviously, the way we play, the press and defence will take some time to perfect but it was a good sign, when you face such teams, you want to dominate and not give them the ball.
I know everyone says its only Bodo but we have been dominated at times by these oppositions on the transition in the past.
I am glad we saw a style.. the Everton game will be another good test.
Obviously, the way we play, the press and defence will take some time to perfect but it was a good sign, when you face such teams, you want to dominate and not give them the ball.
I know everyone says its only Bodo but we have been dominated at times by these oppositions on the transition in the past.
I am glad we saw a style.. the Everton game will be another good test.
Apparently Erik in his infinite wisdom decided not to.
It doesn’t surprise me we didn’t.
United, a worldwide brand and club that only appointed a sporting director this year.
Not really. It depends on the degree the manager wants to delegate coaching responsibilities. Some wish to be involved in every little detail, while some others prefer to focus on the bigger picture and trust their staff with the everyday details. Or it can be a mixed thing. Guardiola, for example, who's a very meticulous tactician and obsessed with the finer details, has admitted that his owes a lot to Lillo on the defensive side of the tactics.
Anyhow, it's a nothing article that provides some intel about the roles of the staff Amorim has already brought with him. We already knew that he trusts them a lot since he was adamant that he wanted them to follow him to OT, and the fee we paid to Sporting included them too.
It's good to see the Caf being open-minded, though. Solskjaer was annihilated on here when the news came out that Carrick and McKenna were the ones working with the players on the tactics.
Carlos, Paolo, Joao, Ricardo. I’m confident of getting at least one.
From source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/s/EytoWVHtUF
"(copy pasted from what I posted on r/soccer)
Adélio works with the defenders, Emanuel Ferro with the midfielders and Carlos Fernandes with the strikers. There, you already have more information here than by reading the entire article - there is no mention as to which coach is assigned to where.
(that's how they were divided at Sporting as per Adélio's interview at the end of last season, don't think there's a reason for it to be different here)"
That’s pretty shocking. Was it just free for all training sessions before he took over or something?
give Anthony a break. You expect United player to pass with his right foot? Madness
Yeah, that was my first thought as well: Ipswich and Bodo/Glimt aren't really first-class opposition. But then where is Twente in this list, or why wasn't possession above 70% in that cup rout? It's clearly a big change.
I’m sure Ruud was working with the forwards.
Yeah I loved seeing this. Really clever, adapting to each players strengths.
A Busy week ahead for Amorim. 3 games in the Prem could be a huge points difference if United could string a few wins together.
Sunday - Everton
Wednesday - Arsenal
Saturday - Forrest
Sunday - Everton
Wednesday - Arsenal
Saturday - Forrest
Arsenal will be a big test for us. Shame it is so soon in Ruben's reign but will be a good test to see how far he has come
We kind of did with Benni McCarthy but not to the extent that other clubs do.
That seems mental. How have we been that crap in Europe for so long?
Obviously not. We won 1 and went to 3 finals in 4 years didn’t we?
Antony is such an idiot sometimes. His man is clearly on the floor with Mount in acres of space onside, and he checks back onto his left and plays a backpass. He doesn't even need to use his right foot either. That's a piss easy left foot slip into the channel. It's bafflingly easy.
Under SAF we were playing in the Champions League and he wasn't one for possession for possession sake and so the 70+ possession stat wouldn't be something you would have expected us to reach much.
even considering this we’ve been playing in the Europa for many years at this point. It’s a strange stat.
Fair, but based on how our managers have all decides to play it's not that much of a shock. None of them seemed to put much priority on possession apart from Van Gaal and he played risk adverse possession so the attacking stats suffered.
Probably more of a surprise that Amorim managed to set up the team to achieve those stats in just his second match
Same as Ten Hag, he had Pool in his third game. And then Arsenal. But Amorim did not have a pre-season. He still could beat Arsenal though.
I think I read on here that he's not averse to being pragmatic/defensive in the big games at times and I wonder if he'll be a little more cautious against Arsenal, especially with the wingbacks. We still look a little shaky defensively and I doubt he'd want to be too aggressive against Arsenal.
At a personal level,for the first time in years, I've heard a Utd manager/coach say that he wants his team not to give possession away needlessly. And he keeps emphasising this after each game so I feel it really grates on him, like me, that the players have to put a lot of effort getting the ball back only to then cheaply give it away!
There are some culprits that I feel won't improve this aspect of their game, so won't survive the cull, but if you cannot manage the most basic of skills asked of a professional footballers I have zero sympathy.
There are some culprits that I feel won't improve this aspect of their game, so won't survive the cull, but if you cannot manage the most basic of skills asked of a professional footballers I have zero sympathy.
Hopefully by “rotate and Mount is a proper player” his setting the seeds for not starting Bruno
Jack of all trades, master of none?
If we beat Everton convincingly, it would built good confidence into Arsenal. Why would anyone thinks that we will roll over against Arsenal? If everyone plays with energy and commitment, we can upset Arsenal. If we manage to beat Arsenal, we would be one step closer to top 4 and gives the rest of the season a boost. Let's do it.