Roy Keane

In terms of positioning Bruno is essentially playing like Rooney played at times, but without the end product and tackling ability. It's a huge problem that you'd probably let Rooney off for as he offered so much else, but Bruno's positioning coupled with his constant attempts at playing the killer ball whenever he receives it are so obviously detrimental to the team and he doesn't make up for it with enough goals and assists either.

He also needs taking off set piece duty entirely. His free kicks and corners are consistently awful and our goal shy strikers could do with being put on penalty duty if only to boost their confidence. It's not as though we really have much to play for in the league this season anymore and we barely win any penalties anyway.
 
I'd love for him to have some role at the club - could see him being excellent in a pastoral / junior to first team player liaison role.
 
I'd love for him to have some role at the club - could see him being excellent in a pastoral / junior to first team player liaison role.

Those roles require sensitive people skills, the sort of skills he massively struggled with as a manager and coach. I could barely think of someone less cut out for that sort of role.
 
I'd love for him to have some role at the club - could see him being excellent in a pastoral / junior to first team player liaison role.
Keane is a genuine headcase. Its charming on the telly, but he got Readings assistant manager by the neck after a match. He falls out with everyone. He's to full on for the modern player. Especially ones whose playing time isnt a reflection of the money he makes.
 
Listening to Keane's tactical views on the recent Overlap episode, if he had any position at United, he'd walk over hot coals to get Diego Simone here I feel.
 
Listening to Keane's tactical views on the recent Overlap episode, if he had any position at United, he'd walk over hot coals to get Diego Simone here I feel.
:lol: thing is, I can’t prove it, but I bet he wasn’t saying the same thing a few years ago.
 
The problem with this anecdote is that this pressing of his also leads to plenty of chances and even some goals. This is very valuable for the team. The average good team play 500-600 passes per game but they typically only get 5-6 good solid chances after all. So there are what, 50-100 successful passes for every one chance? And more than twice that for every goal?

Look no further than Van Gaal's United. We were generally in perfect control of the game and dominated possession too. And it was all pointless.
Can you give plenty of examples of his pressing leading to solid chances and goals?
 
I wonder if he would say the same towards Rashy and his 90 min light jogging on the pitch
Both Keane and Carragher absolutely spot on here. There’s a reason, or more than one why Bruno’s teams aren’t successful. Sporting won the league after he left. We won more in the timespan before he joined than we have since he’s been here. He creates huge problems but because he runs some people are blinded to anything else.
 
Keane is a genuine headcase. Its charming on the telly, but he got Readings assistant manager by the neck after a match. He falls out with everyone. He's to full on for the modern player. Especially ones whose playing time isnt a reflection of the money he makes.
He also gave one of the greatest performances ever by a united player in the 99 champions league semi final
 
He goes too far a lot of the time but cant disagree with him about Fergie there. Everyone knows it.
True … it’s unfortunate but true. Ferguson suited himself over that horse, his son, the Glazers. He was a brilliant manager, and I still have huge regard for him. But he was far, far from perfect.
 
finally someone comes out and says it b/c ffs it's gone on long enough without a bit of scrutiny

‘You’re killing us, You’re costing us’ – Roy Keane’s brutal assessment of Man United star

https://strettynews.com/2024/01/18/...-keanes-brutal-assessment-of-man-united-star/
Something I have been talking about. Fernandes is a good player but the problem is that he is everywhere. You can't be everywhere. If you are central midfielder you need to stay there. You need to trust your teammates to do their job. Even if they don't you can't be running and chasing their position. That leaves whole midfield open.
 
Something I have been talking about. Fernandes is a good player but the problem is that he is everywhere. You can't be everywhere. If you are central midfielder you need to stay there. You need to trust your teammates to do their job. Even if they don't you can't be running and chasing their position. That leaves whole midfield open.
He's not a central midfielder so this crtiticism doesn't even make sense.
 
Bruno actually is a huge problem, Keane is right. ETH's formation and role for Bruno, a shitty combination. He is also spot on about his mentality. There is no way Bruno should be captain

Agree but even more concerning is that there are no other options (Martinez is a shout but he's been out so long). Ole's interview, while shy of details, did indicate that there were no real leaders in the group.
 
That's not a central midfielder mate, do you even know the basics of football positions?
Don't worry about my basics. He is central midfielder. What role he is playing and what position he have are two different things.
 
Those roles require sensitive people skills, the sort of skills he massively struggled with as a manager and coach. I could barely think of someone less cut out for that sort of role.

So people keep saying but I think a few could do with a rocket up their a***
 
You can see how much Keano has mellowed, back in the day that guy would have been on his ass with an extremely red face from all the blood pouring out!
Keane is 52. Time caught him. But Micah though.... guy looks like a beast. I don't know why he quit playing that early.