Ross Barkley? Is he Happy?

I've not seen it myself. Or rather I should say that for me good technique implies a consistency, a lot of things seem to come off for Barkley in spite of him ... not because of him.

Barkley can do outrageous things with a football. Consistency is an issue, but I think this is more to do with the mental side of the game.
 
Fantastic physical qualities, a lot of technical ability but has still possesses the decision making of a 17 year old. koeman simply doesn't trust him and I don't blame him either. If Everton are going to play with attacking full backs that get forward and a relatively slow defensive spine (jagielka, Williams and Barry) than you can't have Barkley losing the ball every other attack because of his poor decision making.
 
Wouldn't mind him as a squad option. Playing at a bigger club might help him knuckle down and convert his game into something more effective on the football pitch.
 
Said a it a long time ago when people were getting moist about him, nowhere near good enough for a big club or even Everton these days for that matter. His one big strength is his dribbling ability which is best utilized in a deeper role. Unfortunately, his passing and general play is nowhere near good enough to justify that. And neither can he play as a #10 as he's not a very creative player.
 
I had a great laugh when he was crying on the bench when he wasn't subbed on and I probably would have even more of it if we didn't feck shit up in the end.

He was overrated, mediocre at best, coincidentally his best season came under El Fraudo when Everton couldn't give two shits about this fun aspect of the game called 'defending'.
 
Barkley is technically outstanding, actually. It's upstairs he's found wanting.

There's a really good player in there, but I'm not sure we'll see it at Everton.

That's a true statement, and one which is lost on most others who always fail to recognise this. He does have excellent technique. Never gets credit for it at all. His consistency is way off, of course, but his control and touch are undeniably fantastic
 
That's a true statement, and one which is lost on most others who always fail to recognise this. He does have excellent technique. Never gets credit for it at all. His consistency is way off, of course, but his control and touch are undeniably fantastic

Agree. The original point was spot on.

To me he's another player whose suffered No.10 syndrome. Twenty years ago he'd have been a box to box midfielder. Now too many players want to be that creative hub when really they don't have that ability.
 
I think he needs similar players around him. Players on his "wavelength", I guess. During the last World Cup, I thought his role was a good one; an impact sub who could stay on the front foot with England chasing the game. The RTE punditry actually pointed out how much better Rooney and Sterling looked with Barkley out there; they described it as them having "someone to play with" rather than the geriatric midfield they had behind them.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that he could thrive as an impact sub when his team are dominating the ball and him trying things that don't come won't exactly be punished. But for how much Everton would want for him, it's not worth it for merely an impact sub.
 
If Depay is going to Everton I'd be happy if Barkley came the other way. Still feel he's got tons of potential if it's harnessed the the correct way.
 
He's being played out of position imo. He's never the player they are trying to turn him into. Sadly for him, in what should be his best position (box to box mid0 they have a player playing at a really high level (Gana). He basically needs a move.
 
In about 2 years time we will have this same thread for Harry Kane. English players are often very overrated.
 
Never seen someone react like that from not playing. Stunned actually. It wasn't even an out-of-context bit. He was distraught.
 
Yes. He is a good player but very overrated too.
Overrated by whom? Not seen any posts proclaiming him as the worlds best or next best striker?

For me Kane is a very good premiership player, a level below the really top class strikers, but still very effective with the majority of skills required to be a regular goal scorer and creator of assists.
 
I don't think he has developed, just like Stones. Both bought into their hype and probably thought they are too good to be dropped. Says a lot when Cleverley was preferred over him.
 
If Depay is going to Everton I'd be happy if Barkley came the other way. Still feel he's got tons of potential if it's harnessed the the correct way.
I'd prefer Deulofeu. Barkley is just another lazy, dilly-dallying number 10 with no end product. We don't need more of those.
 
In about 2 years time we will have this same thread for Harry Kane. English players are often very overrated.

You mean the guy who's scored 50 goals in his past 70 PL appearances and the only player to score +20 goals in each of the past 2 seasons (and is on course to do so again this season despite being out for a few months)?

Yep, really over-rated.

Kane is more towards the Bale side than Barkley side. Not that he's as good as Bale but that all 3 have been panned on this board at some point (Bale as a one trick pony who is so inferior to Nani that he, at his top level, is already worse than a Nani with limitless potential, Harry one season wonder Kane and Barkley, who people are finally seeing isn't as good as it was always claimed he would be).

There's always time for him however. Though he was very much over-rated on this board.
 
You mean the guy who's scored 50 goals in his past 70 PL appearances and the only player to score +20 goals in each of the past 2 seasons (and is on course to do so again this season despite being out for a few months)?

Yep, really over-rated.

Kane is more towards the Bale side than Barkley side. Not that he's as good as Bale but that all 3 have been panned on this board at some point (Bale as a one trick pony who is so inferior to Nani that he, at his top level, is already worse than a Nani with limitless potential, Harry one season wonder Kane and Barkley, who people are finally seeing isn't as good as it was always claimed he would be).

There's always time for him however. Though he was very much over-rated on this board.

A player can be good but overrated. Kane is One of the most overrated player in the world today. That's my opinion. It used to be Cavani but now it's Kane.
 
A player can be good but overrated. Kane is One of the most overrated player in the world today. That's my opinion. It used to be Cavani but now it's Kane.

Ok then. Unless people are claiming Kane is on par with Messi/ Ronaldo, I don't see how you can really over-rate a player who's scoring rate is not far off 1 in 1. That is however your opinion.
 
I rated him highly coming through, but his form has been pretty poor for a good long while now. Needs to get it together.
Same here, he does have talent though. I was relieved when I saw him out against us.
 
I think Barkley has the potential to be at a top level club, but he is wasted like so many other english talents.
He is an old fashioned CAM with power and technique, which you don't see that often nowadays. I really hope that he overcome his struggles.
 
Stuck in the Dele Alli area of not being technically good enough to play 10 to the highest level but not anywhere near defensively aware enough to play 8 and assume a box to box role.
Seriously? Dele Alli has fantastic technique. His footwork and ball striking is one of his best attributes, technique is certainly not his issue.
 
Wasn't he the most hyped Premier League player 3 years ago especially on here? Funny how quickly things change.
 
Buy him. He will be a much better player for us i feel. The guy needs to get out of Everton