Rooney Charged: Faces Two Match Ban for cursing | Appeal lost

It's probably been discussed in the near-40 pages of this thread, but what the hell. If the FA and the BBC are that concerned about swearing coming over the TV, then perhaps they shouldn't have the microphone turned on with a camera that is being shoved inches from players faces while celebrating a goal?

Or, hey, here's a wild idea. Put the broadcasts on a delay of a few seconds, like they do in the States now. Do we need Janet Jackson to flash a boob before a Premier League game to get that instituted in England?

Lastly, if the FA are so worried about offending viewers, then why don't they give a shit about deaf viewers who can read lips? Or anyone else with half a brain that can clearly tell when someone is saying "feck this" or "feck that"? You see that a couple of times per game, at least. Is that ok? Or is it only ok because the sensibilities of deaf children don't matter to the FA?

Can't someone in the major media (there have to be a couple that aren't fiercely anti-United) call out the FA for their hypocrisy? Clearly SAF can't, or he'd get about 10 games for daring to suggest that the FA should care about deaf children. HEIL F.A.!
 
MiamiSpartan said:
It's probably been discussed in the near-40 pages of this thread, but what the hell. If the FA and the BBC are that concerned about swearing coming over the TV, then perhaps they shouldn't have the microphone turned on with a camera that is being shoved inches from players faces while celebrating a goal?

Or, hey, here's a wild idea. Put the broadcasts on a delay of a few seconds, like they do in the States now. Do we need Janet Jackson to flash a boob before a Premier League game to get that instituted in England?

Lastly, if the FA are so worried about offending viewers, then why don't they give a shit about deaf viewers who can read lips? Or anyone else with half a brain that can clearly tell when someone is saying "feck this" or "feck that"? You see that a couple of times per game, at least. Is that ok? Or is it only ok because the sensibilities of deaf children don't matter to the FA?
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Fair points, I clearly saw Peter Crouch saying "feck off" when he got his marching orders last night.
 
MiamiSpartan said:
It's probably been discussed in the near-40 pages of this thread, but what the hell.
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Yeah, that's pretty much a summary of the whole discussion.

MiamiSpartan said:
Or, hey, here's a wild idea. Put the broadcasts on a delay of a few seconds
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They do, but it seems they didn't see fit to use it. Given that they then replayed it several times that's not so surprising. It's almost like it wasn't as offensive as the tabloids have made out...
 
MiamiSpartan said:
It's probably been discussed in the near-40 pages of this thread, but what the hell. If the FA and the BBC are that concerned about swearing coming over the TV, then perhaps they shouldn't have the microphone turned on with a camera that is being shoved inches from players faces while celebrating a goal?

Or, hey, here's a wild idea. Put the broadcasts on a delay of a few seconds, like they do in the States now. Do we need Janet Jackson to flash a boob before a Premier League game to get that instituted in England?

Lastly, if the FA are so worried about offending viewers, then why don't they give a shit about deaf viewers who can read lips? Or anyone else with half a brain that can clearly tell when someone is saying "feck this" or "feck that"? You see that a couple of times per game, at least. Is that ok? Or is it only ok because the sensibilities of deaf children don't matter to the FA?
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Apparently Sky Sports is on a 3-second delay..?!
 
wr8_utd said:
I'm fine with it if Reina, Crouch, VDV and every other pro footballer who swears on the pitch within 5 yards of a camera gets banned henceforth.
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It's not what happened with Wayne though is it?


He swore directly into the camera, I don't know why he did it to be honest. He should have just turned away and done it and avoided all of this Hoobla.

He's a very silly boy in my opinion, but you take the bad with the good
 
MiamiSpartan said:
It's probably been discussed in the near-40 pages of this thread, but what the hell. If the FA and the BBC are that concerned about swearing coming over the TV, then perhaps they shouldn't have the microphone turned on with a camera that is being shoved inches from players faces while celebrating a goal?

Or, hey, here's a wild idea. Put the broadcasts on a delay of a few seconds, like they do in the States now. Do we need Janet Jackson to flash a boob before a Premier League game to get that instituted in England?

Lastly, if the FA are so worried about offending viewers, then why don't they give a shit about deaf viewers who can read lips? Or anyone else with half a brain that can clearly tell when someone is saying "feck this" or "feck that"? You see that a couple of times per game, at least. Is that ok? Or is it only ok because the sensibilities of deaf children don't matter to the FA?

Can't someone in the major media (there have to be a couple that aren't fiercely anti-United) call out the FA for their hypocrisy? Clearly SAF can't, or he'd get about 10 games for daring to suggest that the FA should care about deaf children. HEIL F.A.!
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The funny thing is they already do, I think they have to. Sky deliberately chose to show the footage and the swearing. They have to take some of the blame.
 
Boss said:
It's not what happened with Wayne though is it?


He swore directly into the camera, I don't know why he did it to be honest. He should have just turned away and done it and avoided all of this Hoobla.

He's a very silly boy in my opinion, but you take the bad with the good
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As long as it can be heard on TV and the poor children are getting corrupted the players should be banned. The distance from the the Camera should not be an issue. If you can hear it/see it, BAN THEM!
 
jeston said:
Apparently Sky Sports is on a 3-second delay..?!
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Slightly off topic, but did anybody else used to listen / phone in to that show on Picadilly Radio back in the late 80s / early 90s (can't remember what it was called) when they had a "fun hour" when you could phone in with jokes etc?

Every week it would just descend into people trying to get swearing in before they managed to hit the 3 second delay cut-off... with surprising success!

My greatest personal moment of glory consisted of phoning in with a couple of "comedy" book titles:

"Dark Alleys, by Hugo First
and
Gardens of England by...
...Motherfecker!"

Ah... small pleasures (what, I was only about 14 at the time!):D
 
I hate it even if it will be 1 game, it should be ZERO. They are stopping him from playing against Fulham on saturday because of that, and Lee Mason is an even bigger idiot than the FA..
 
Man-United said:
I hate it even if it will be 1 game, it should be ZERO. They are stopping him from playing against Fulham on saturday because of that, and Lee Mason is an even bigger idiot than the FA..
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I would have thought he would be rested in that game anyway.

Nice for Fergie to have the option though. As i've said before, a ban would be way over the top. He apologised, move on.
 
A1Dan said:
They're not going to CGI him saying something more polite, just switch to a different feed or cut the sound!:wenger:
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Surely they'd need longer than 3 seconds for that though. They were probably hardly expecting it, which is probably their fault, but I don't think they can be critisised for not reacting in 3 seconds.
 
Boss said:
Out of interest, did Drogba apologise before he was banned?
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Yeah:

Now Drogba has released a statement saying: "I was very upset at what happened during the game, but having seen the pictures on TV I accept that I overreacted.

"I also fully accept that the language I used did not set a good example for those watching at home, especially children.

"I regret that in the heat of the moment I let out my incredible frustration and disappointment in this way, and for that I apologise."

Chelsea also released a club statement greeting Drogba's apology and claiming his actions were fuelled by frustration.

A club statement read: "Chelsea welcomes Didier's statement today which was made honestly and after reflection.


Drogba's Rage: Pictures From Sky Sports

"We are all acutely aware of the responsibilities that lie with both the club and its players towards setting a good example as role models.

"While it is clear that some of the events last night were regrettable, they occurred only because of the high emotions and frustrations which arose from the disappointment of a controversial defeat in such an important game.

"We made representations to UEFA immediately after the game and we await their comments following a review of the match officials' report."
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Number7 said:
Surely they'd need longer than 3 seconds for that though. They were probably hardly expecting it, which is probably their fault, but I don't think they can be critisised for not reacting in 3 seconds.
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Well, it's what the delay is ther for.

Mind you, see my annecdote above about the radio phone in. It happened every week in the same show at the same time - for about an hour there'd be non-stop people trying to phone in and swear on the radio (yeah I know, gimme a break, the internet hadn't been invented), and they'd be constantly cutting callers off mid-call. But despite being so predictable, still they only managed to stop about half of the attempts before the naughty words were broadcast all over greater Manchester's airwaves!
 
Boss said:
Interesting, Drogba acknowledges that his language was a key reason for his ban.

You'll be hard pressed to find many people who stuck up for him at the time.

Yet it seems people can't understand any reason at all why Rooney was banned.
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I tihnk Drogba regreted saying "fecking" a lot more than "Disgrace". It was the "Disgrace" that got him banned IMHO.
 
A1Dan said:
Yeah, that's pretty much a summary of the whole discussion.



They do, but it seems they didn't see fit to use it. Given that they then replayed it several times that's not so surprising. It's almost like it wasn't as offensive as the tabloids have made out...
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:lol: I jumped around in the thread from time to time over the last few days, but didn't remember much talk about directing blame at the TV producers.

That's terrible if there is a delay, they didn't use it, and no one is bringing that up in this mess. It seems that you either have to ban all swearing by players completely (never know when a microphone on the field might pick something up), or you have to have your TV partners provide a filter. Otherwise, how can you really protect the little eyes and ears.
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duffer said:
I tihnk Drogba regreted saying "fecking" a lot more than "Disgrace". It was the "Disgrace" that got him banned IMHO.
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If Drogba had gone to the camera, directly, or faced it directly, and let lose with the F word. I believe he would have been banned, but for alot less, something like .....2 games!


...but we can't prove it.
 
Boss said:
If Drogba had gone to the camera, directly, or faced it directly, and let lose with the F word. I believe he would have been banned, but for alot less, something like .....2 games!


...but we can't prove it.
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Drogba said his well after 9pm. He should have unleashed the C bomb.
 
Drogba was banned because the 'disgrace' he was referring to was obviously the ref's performance, Rooney's "fecking what" was him blowing off steam following a hattrick and after receiving a match's worth of despicable abuse from the West Ham fans.
 
Number7 said:
Surely they'd need longer than 3 seconds for that though. They were probably hardly expecting it, which is probably their fault, but I don't think they can be critisised for not reacting in 3 seconds.
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I don't think it takes more than 3 seconds to recognize the word "feck" and press a button.

But I think that the general rule in the US after the Janet Jackson Super Bowl Wardrobe Malfunction is 7 seconds, maybe as high as 10 seconds. Either way, it's far easier to implement (or effectively use) a delay than it is to police swearing among grown men in a highly tense and exciting situation.

I really haven't heard so much furor over players swearing outside of a U-10 league.
 
RedKaos said:
Drogba was banned because the 'disgrace' he was referring to was obviously the ref's performance, Rooney's "fecking what" was him blowing off steam following a hattrick and after receiving a match's worth of despicable abuse from the West Ham fans.
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The more I see that incident the more I think Rooney is speaking to a specific person.
 
Boss said:
If Drogba had gone to the camera, directly, or faced it directly, and let lose with the F word. I believe he would have been banned, but for alot less, something like .....2 games!


...but we can't prove it.
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Word is that the FA has already revised their language in the rule book to read:
"A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner while directly looking into, or within 10 degrees to either side of, a TV camera which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour."
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:wenger:
 
BluesChronicle Have just heard dynamite news from a very well known Manchester United source: Rooney banned for 3 games. Nothing confirmed yet.

Wasn't it confirmed today by SSN that the ban won't be increased?

:nervous:
 
Theyv'e already made the decision. but they're going to formally announce it at 10am tommorrow.

Its the FA folks. He'll get a further ban.
 
wr8_utd said:
I'm fine with it if Reina, Crouch, VDV and every other pro footballer who swears on the pitch within 5 yards of a camera gets banned henceforth.
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Exactly.

I don't have a problem with Rooney being banned tbh. He's basically a yob and a poor role model. But I do have a problem with him being singled out.
 
wr8_utd said:
So anything more than 10 degrees and you're free to say what you want? :lol:
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Absolutely. It's only because Rooney looked DIRECTLY into the camera. If he had looked just to the left of the camera, he'd be in the clear.

Seriously, they might as well put something this asinine in the rules. They're essentially saying it anyway by not caring about the countless instances of swearing that are picked up by the cameras/microphones throughout the course of the season.
 
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