Rooney being shunted to the left wing..

Raees

Pythagoras in Boots
Joined
May 16, 2009
Messages
29,553
Is this the first signs we see of LVG finally seeing what we all see with Wayne.. the beginning of a process that will finally see him dropped once we run out of positions for him? or is it a new position he can find to successfully coast in and allow LVG to still pick him whilst keeping results ticking over.

Or is it a position he can make work and make it his own.

Thoughts?
 
I'd rather we stop trying him in so many positions and just accept that he's not good any more.
 
Hopefully he takes it as a deliberate humiliation and demands to leave the club.
 
We have Young who has improved massively for us and Memphis on the left so I hope we don't take either one out of the equation for left wing because we need to find room for this elephant called Wayne. Are we also going to be trying him on the right wing and at keeper if it doesn't work out too?
 
I always thought he could be like Ribery on the left wing but he's nowhere near that standard.
 
Well let's be honest he's not getting dropped. I would definitely favour playing him on the left.

His best games and seasons was on the left. It would suit his game, he can cross, run up and down the pitch and would require the least amount of creativity of all the attacking positions.

Do it please, for the sake of our mental health. I get mad every time he touches the ball and does absolutely nothing good with it.
 
Think that's where he'll end up for a while. LVG must have had enough of him in that No.10 role to shunt him out to the left - surely?
 
We're literally just shunting him around the team, trying to find a position where he can do the least damage at this stage :lol:
 
Rather he played on the left wing right now than centrally. Less of a drop in quality from Memphis to Rooney than say Herrera to Rooney on current form.
 
I think you're right that it's an acknowledgement he hasn't been good enough in the middle.

But maybe that's just seeing what you want to see, Van Gaal messing with peoples positions is hardly conclusive evidence of anything.

Either way, if he's going to play its worth a shot, it makes use of his pace. Maybe he can make it work. Or it can be an improvement. I wouldn't necessarily abandon the idea just because it didnt work out today. That is, assuming the alternative is him going back to where he was. Simpler would be to just drop him for a bit.
 
Sam said:
We're literally just shunting him around the team, trying to find a position where he can do the least damage at this stage :lol:
Click to expand...

We play him in midfield: "He needs to be up front where the action is"
We play him as the main striker: "He needs good support. He's best as a 10"
We play him as a 10: "He needs to be closer to goal where he can create goals. He needs to be the main man"
We play him as a winger: "He needs to be in front of the goal. He's wasted on the wing"

Wherever he plays, people always suggest a better position. He must be the only player in our squad who has no preferred position.
 
I am all for this. Not because Rooney has any chance on doing well there (he was absolutely awful for England in WC there, for example), but because it will bench Depay who has been bear as bad as Rooney this season. While I would certainly prefer benching Rooney instead of Depay, that ain't gonna happen, so at least with this move, we will have just an underperformer in the team, instead of two.

Obviously, that might mean putting Depay as No.10 (remember the pre-season), though I doubt that it matters in this stage. Continuing with Rooney as #10 and Depay as left winger shouldn't be an option.

I think that by now everyone knows that in the end it will finish with Rooney in bench or outside of the team. He is finished, simple as that.
 
If we insist on playing him then I'd much prefer to see him out wide, he's still got a decent cross on him and his lack of awareness becomes less of a factor when you play on the wingers, he's also shown a little more willingness to run with the ball recently. Freeing up space for someone who can centrally dictate and create could be vital going forward, nothing is sticking for us with Rooney there and we are forced to play too laterally.
 
he did a better job out thier then Memphis did.

with such a thin bench Id probably leave him thier for the next few games and bench Memphis
 
Raees said:
Is this the first signs we see of LVG finally seeing what we all see with Wayne.. the beginning of a process that will finally see him dropped once we run out of positions for him? or is it a new position he can find to successfully coast in and allow LVG to still pick him whilst keeping results ticking over.

Or is it a position he can make work and make it his own.

Thoughts?
Click to expand...

The idea that LVG doesn't see a problem with Wayne is ridiculous.
 
Tyrion said:
We play him in midfield: "He needs to be up front where the action is"
We play him as the main striker: "He needs good support. He's best as a 10"
We play him as a 10: "He needs to be closer to goal where he can create goals. He needs to be the main man"
We play him as a winger: "He needs to be in front of the goal. He's wasted on the wing"

Wherever he plays, people always suggest a better position. He must be the only player in our squad who has no preferred position.
Click to expand...

Sounds about right.
 
I always thought he can do the job on the wing for us. He have much more space there and as we seen he will benefit from it. He even made one or two runs to the defence.
 
Jerch said:
I always thought he can do the job on the wing for us. He have much more space there and as we seen he will benefit from it. He even made one or two runs to the defence.
Click to expand...
Great, we've found a position for him. He can rotate with Memphis and LVG can play Herrera at No.10. Sorted:D
 
Jazz said:
Great, we've found a position for him. He can rotate with Memphis and LVG can play Herrera at No.10. Sorted:D
Click to expand...
Yeah our Herrera lovers and Memphis haters can join to the party that this is good idea.




Just to be disappointed in the end because Memphis will take number 10. role :lol:
 
NinjaFletch said:
The idea that LVG doesn't see a problem with Wayne is ridiculous.
Click to expand...

The thing with LVG is that at the moment he is heading the way Rodgers is... Brenda took way too much shit from Gerrard and Sterling before trying to redeem things but it was clear he was too meek to make the harsh decisions needed.

Lvg has been spineless thus far, he's got rid of the easy targets..now he needs to really take those balls out.
 
Tyrion said:
We play him in midfield: "He needs to be up front where the action is"
We play him as the main striker: "He needs good support. He's best as a 10"
We play him as a 10: "He needs to be closer to goal where he can create goals. He needs to be the main man"
We play him as a winger: "He needs to be in front of the goal. He's wasted on the wing"

Wherever he plays, people always suggest a better position. He must be the only player in our squad who has no preferred position.
Click to expand...

If he plays on the bench, nobody would complain :angel:
 
We needed fellaini on the pitch because arsenal were too happy to camp on edge of their box - that goes away when fellaini plays. Felli's hardly going to play left wing and depay was the worst player on the pitch H1 so easy decision to put rooney on left
 
He wasn't that bad on the left. Not as bad as he's been in the middle, at least.
 
I've been saying it for a while. It's his best position. He played there when Ronaldo was here. He could be like a Dirk Kuyt. A hard working winger, providing for Martial.
 
he'll nick one or two goals there against some no hopers and you'll have the press fawning over his versatility...he'll then return to his mean for this season, and it'll be blamed on him being out of position, with calls to play him as a 9, his ''proper postion''...
 
At this point, I have no idea what's Rooney's proper position anymore. He's not a 9, Fergie saw this, Hodgson doesn't . His vision in 10 position is rather than limited, okay-ish as an second striker but on Fergie's days, I don't think Rooney worked that well with any of his partners ( Van Persie, Kagawa, Chicharito, Welbeck, etc.. was good but not world-beater partnership).

LvG's tried Rooney as 8, 9, 10 and he's bang on average. Someone tells me why Rooney has to play every game again? It's not like we don't have better options, well at least not worse.
 
LeftyBlaster said:
We have Young who has improved massively for us and Memphis on the left so I hope we don't take either one out of the equation for left wing because we need to find room for this elephant called Wayne. Are we also going to be trying him on the right wing and at keeper if it doesn't work out too?
Click to expand...
Well, the LB spot is currently empty. :nervous:
 
I think people are looking into this way too much. The probable reason he was put there was because LVG went all out attack, and wanted the Fellaini option on the pitch as well as having as many attacking players as possible in attacking positions. I don't think we will be seeing him starting in that position any time soon.
 
fallengt said:
At this point, I have no idea what's Rooney's proper position anymore. He's not a 9, Fergie saw this, Hodgson doesn't . His vision in 10 position is rather than limited, okay-ish as an second striker but on Fergie's days, I don't think Rooney worked that well with any of his partners ( Van Persie, Kagawa, Chicharito, Welbeck, etc.. was good but not world-beater partnership).

LvG's tried Rooney as 8, 9, 10 and he's bang on average. Someone tells me why Rooney has to play every game again? It's not like we don't have better options, well at least not worse.
Click to expand...

In the post match presser, when asked about Rooney's performance, he stated that his captaincy was far more important in value to the team than his performance (good or bad) in today's match. Pretty much confirms to me that Rooney does seem untouchable.
 
Raees said:
the beginning of a process that will finally see him dropped once we run out of positions for him?
Click to expand...

No. I think it's the beginning of a process that could see Memphis dropped from the side.

It's pretty obvious why Rooney was moved there. He needed to bring on Fellaini to offer some presence in midfield and also wanted to get rid of Memphis because he was our worst forward. The only viable way he could achieve the two things without using up all of his subs was to do what he did, taking into account that Darmian needed to be replaced as well.

Overall I think Rooney did better at left wing and certainly better than Memphis. The one thing Rooney will offer you even if he's in bad form is that he will track back. I could see this as possibly something LVG will stick to because Memphis I think needs to be taken out of the firing line for a few matches.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.