Ronaldo: Stay or go?

Will Ronaldo be at Utd next season?

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I'm a bit behind in my moaning about summer transfer business, but what I'll say now is that if we can pull off the transfers of De Jong, Antony and Martinez we really should hang onto Ronaldo. A strengthened squad can win the EL trophy -- which I understand is not what Ronaldo dreams of -- and can be positioned for more triumphs in 23/24, when I believe Ronaldo will be 39. At this point he's already secured his status as a near-GOAT, but if he can pull off a PL and CL win in 23/24 he will disembowel the last of his doubters as the GOAT of GOATs.

But that would require that Ronaldo take a risk on a club which, to be honest, has acquitted itself poorly over the last 9 years and is not going to be a serious contender for the PL trophy in 22/23. If the board do their part and strengthen the squad as much as financially possible this summer, will Ronaldo be willing to take that risk?
 
Has to go at all costs, you saw what it was like in today's press conference, if he stays it will a whole season of similar press conferences and constant unsettling drama and circus around the club with him.
 
Does Cristiano Ronaldo make teams better or worse?


In 2020-21, United scored 73 goals in the Premier League on their way to finishing second under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Adding Ronaldo to the equation in 2021-22 was meant to be the star quality to provide the final push for the title but United’s sixth-placed finish saw that goal tally drop to 57, despite the Portuguese’s 18 goals.

Put simply, all attacking roads led to Ronaldo. He was responsible for 21 per cent of United’s shots in the Premier League — higher than any of his team-mates with only Bruno Fernandes close to him with 17 per cent. Whether he was in the best position or not, Ronaldo demanded the ball to be played into him.

Off the ball, data from StatsBomb via FBref showed Ronaldo’s 6.7 pressures per 90 were the lowest of any midfielder or forward in the United squad. For wider context, that placed him in the bottom one per cent of forwards in the Premier League last season. You have to take the rough with the smooth when it comes to his playing profile.

This trend stacks up with his former employers. Before Ronaldo arrived at Juventus in 2017-18, their stellar 95-point title win saw them score 86 goals in Serie A. In Ronaldo’s first season, they still won 90 points but scored just 70 goals. The team’s top goalscorer? Ronaldo, of course, with 21 goals.

An even higher 28 per cent of Juventus’s shots were taken by Ronaldo in 2018-19 — a total of 170 shots dwarfing his nearest team-mates’ tally, Paulo Dybala second with 64 shots (11 per cent) for the season. What Dybala compromised in attack he made up for with his work rate off the ball, with 18.3 pressures per 90 — nearly double that of Ronaldo with 9.4 pressures per 90.


Brilliant. This makes my heart warm. People finally seeing through the Ronaldo fallacy.
 
This clown wants to leave and nobody wants him HAHA.

Can't wait to see him come grovelling back and get benched by Martial
 
This clown wants to leave and nobody wants him HAHA.

Can't wait to see him come grovelling back and get benched by Martial


The worst possibly outcome would be if he comes back to the club.

I think privately ETH has already decided he no longer wants Ronaldo and doesn't fit into his philosophy.
 
How embarrassing for him. Begging to leave the club (again) and none of the big teams want him.
 
The worst possibly outcome would be if he comes back to the club.

I think privately ETH has already decided he no longer wants Ronaldo and doesn't fit into his philosophy.
True, I want him gone at this point. Things seem less toxic already and this big baby is going to come back kicking and screaming.

Shame nobody else is taking the bait.
 
Massive embarrassment. Would eventually return like an ex girlfriend who couldn't find love elsewhere and I am sure siusexuals would gobble him up with joy while he fkuks us over again. Wanted UCL football, Saudi Arabia offered him a country's GDP, but his massive supersized ego couldn't handle such a fall from grace. Doesn't even see how poor he really is now because his ego like a massive nose is blocking his eyes. Now no serious European top club is interested. Not even the rich middle eastern playthings. Crazy wages for a player that disrupts every team he plays for. Goal obsession at the detriment of team success is the last thing any serious manager wants and that's why he would be out now or sometime in the season. I always prayed for the day this type of egomaniacs get put in their place and am glad to see it. Any surprise our worst season and greatest dressing room upset ever coincided with his return. Same at Juventus, Same towards the end at Madrid. Please for the love of God, if he does return, ten Hag must be firm in sending him to the bench or reserves and show that he will not give anyone special respect because of name or achievement. No One! Deserved ego but time to reign it in or get out.
 
As of this moment, Ronaldo is our only proven, reliable goal scorer. Maybe Martial returns to top form, maybe not. But we really don't want to bet the house that we're set at the striker position without Ronaldo, arguably the GOAT and one of the top goal scorers in the PL last season.
 
Can’t imagine any of the big teams going after him with his profile and wages. I think he should forgo his massive wages and sign for Sporting Lisbon (if they’d have him back attm), it’s an easy reason for him to return there and he probably gets to play some champions league football. On top of that he probably gets to add a lot of goals to his existing tally.
 
I can see him and his agent asking for the club to let him to go on loan and have us paying half of his wages still, it seems to be the only logical way any big club touches him.
 
I think he should go the America and play for Wayne Rooney perhaps?
 
How embarrassing for him and his acolytes. Maybe he can drop his wage demands and the club can progress forward without this needless circus.
 
That's what you still struggle with. You seem to think it's a big coincidence that they all started playing poorly as soon as he arrived.

Juve were 5th place after the penultimate match of his last season. They benched him on the final match day and promptly catapulted the 4th place team. And then got top 4 again this year.

Meanwhile United went from 2nd to 6th after your boy came.

Actually Juventus won two trophies in Ronaldo's last year with them, however this season without Ronaldo Juventus has won nothing, zero trophies. So Juventus got worse without Ronaldo.
 
I can see him and his agent asking for the club to let him to go on loan and have us paying half of his wages still, it seems to be the only logical way any big club touches him.


On the one hand, why should United give him anything under these circumstances, ETH will hopefully use him if he sees fit with United's needs put ahead of Ronaldo.
But also I can see the argument for saving massive amounts of money, etc.
If he stays he and us will have to put up with him being used in a way that ETH will decide for the benefit of the team.

Might not be enough for Ronaldo to be happy, so he has to decide what he is doing, but whatever that is, it should be at his cost
 
I can see him and his agent asking for the club to let him to go on loan and have us paying half of his wages still, it seems to be the only logical way any big club touches him.
We’d be as quick to simply release him
 
Stay. Even though he's out of the CL this season if remains at OT it would add to his aura and glory were Ronaldo to lead United back to the promised land.
 
As of this moment, Ronaldo is our only proven, reliable goal scorer. Maybe Martial returns to top form, maybe not. But we really don't want to bet the house that we're set at the striker position without Ronaldo, arguably the GOAT and one of the top goal scorers in the PL last season.

Team overall will score more without him.
 
Team overall will score more without him.

I believe this to be true as well.

Furthermore, can I say this: Man Utd. have had successful 40+(ish) aged players in the past e.g. Teddy Sherigham and Ryan Giggs. Teddy was never that quick even in his 20s! whilst Giggs was very successful at adapting his game. He wasn't fazed by playing less minutes and in a different, less intense role, to extend his career beyond that of most other players. I doubt very much Ronaldo will do that - we know from last season he wanted to basically be the 1st name on the teamsheet and there were even rumours it was contracted that if fit he plays, although I myself doubted that. But even though it wasn't in black and white, it technically became so once Sir Alex in effect criticised OGS (after the Everton game I think) when Ronaldo was on the bench at kick-off.

Finally, I recently read statistical analysis to show (I can't find the link now) showing Man Utd scored something like 20 goals more in the season before Ronaldo joined so even though he personally had a successful season, his impact on the team - on the pitch and and behind the scenes in the dressing room had, overall, a detrimental effect on Manchester United.

Having said that, because of other issues to do with loss of form and unavailability of up and coming strikers at United, I do think he needs to stay until Christmas at least, possibly followed by a move to America, which would be the best for both parties.
 
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This from The Guardian

"United have been respectful of Ronaldo’s need to be at home and the manager said on Friday he has still not had any communication with the Portuguese while away. But Ronaldo will now be asked when he feels able to start training. Even if this was to be as early as Tuesday, Ten Hag has suggested he may not be able to play Ronaldo against Brighton due to his lack of preparation."

One thing I would say is that I'd bet a lot of money that Ronaldo was fitter than many before pre-season training started so won't have as far to go.

I'd love to know, if it's true that Ronaldo has not impressed with what's gone on in the transfer window (correctly in my opinion), who would he have liked us to buy...
 
I can see him and his agent asking for the club to let him to go on loan and have us paying half of his wages still, it seems to be the only logical way any big club touches him.
I think you may be right. There was a report of a loan then he comes back next season. If that madness is true then we really havent improved from Woodward.
 
I think he should go the America and play for Wayne Rooney perhaps?
They need defenders first at DC United. Conceded in the first minute yesterday. Currently bottom of the table including both conferences.
 
I’m perfectly fine with Ronaldo never playing for United again…

But we haven’t seen him in a ETH side yet, it could work well, we just don’t know until we see it on the pitch.
 
I'm meant to be the negative one - but someone explain the thought process behind some here wanting to get rid of Ronaldo (one of, if not the greatest, of all time) while wanting Memphis Depay (did nothing here and done very little since) to return. Sounds like madness to me
 
I'm meant to be the negative one - but someone explain the thought process behind some here wanting to get rid of Ronaldo (one of, if not the greatest, of all time) while wanting Memphis Depay (did nothing here and done very little since) to return. Sounds like madness to me
I don’t know maybe it has something to do with Ronaldo not wanting to play for the football club.
 
I don’t know maybe it has something to do with Ronaldo not wanting to play for the football club.
and Depay? want evidence is there that he wants to play for us again?

and some reports say Ronaldo isn't impressed with our recruitment so far - how do we know his real reason for leaving?
 
and Depay? want evidence is there that he wants to play for us again?

and some reports say Ronaldo isn't impressed with our recruitment so far - how do we know his real reason for leaving?

I’ve got nothing to say on Depay. My point is about Ronaldo. He made the comments about leaving a considerable while before the window even closes. It’s clear it’s nothing to do with that. He wants to play in the UCL however not many clubs are lining up for him so maybe watch for some bullshit excuses whilst he is reintegrated back into the squad.
 
I'm meant to be the negative one - but someone explain the thought process behind some here wanting to get rid of Ronaldo (one of, if not the greatest, of all time) while wanting Memphis Depay (did nothing here and done very little since) to return. Sounds like madness to me

I think you might have the cart before the horse there. He doesn't want to be here.
 
I think you may be right. There was a report of a loan then he comes back next season. If that madness is true then we really havent improved from Woodward.

Yeah the idea that Ronaldo's unprofessionalism and disregard for the club would be rewarded by accepting him back the following season as a starter at 38 years old if we clinch ucl football which would also mean he would qualify for his contracted wages of 500k based being in back the champions league despite him not contributing towards the achievement would be pathetic.
 
I believe this to be true as well.
Finally, I recently read statistical analysis to show (I can't find the link now) showing Man Utd scored something like 20 goals more in the season before Ronaldo joined so even though he personally had a successful season, his impact on the team - on the pitch and and behind the scenes in the dressing room had, overall, a detrimental effect on Manchester United.

Having said that, because of other issues to do with loss of form and unavailability of up and coming strikers at United, I do think he needs to stay until Christmas at least, possibly followed by a move to America, which would be the best for both parties.


Firstly I want him gone as I never wanted it back in the first place, but to place blame on him for Rashford (depending on who you are talking too) losing focus on his main job to concentrate on his charity work according to some, or he's rubbish, or he's still suffering from injury, Martial well doing what he does every second season since he came here (sulk), greenwood, well, and cavani not being arsed to even show up sometimes (I'm sick) or doing a Martial when Zlatan came here is well, ludicrous in my book, and their regression is the reason we lacked goals last season as compared to the prior season and not because of ronnie.
 
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