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Ronaldo: Stay or go?
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If it was all about playing in the Champions League he could have asked to leave when he was buying his kids Easter eggs because we haven't been playing in this seasons CL for LONG time. Why wait until July for it to suddenly dawn on him?
I get the distinct feeling that if 3 new players arrive this week and that includes a couple of decent names we will suddenly see that he is up for the challenge.
I think it's highly likely he's on a diff wavelength to Ten Hag + the club in terms of the rebuild. They know it (rightly) will take multiple windows and needs patience which he doesn't have.
Now that he knows its a process and not a snap of the fingers with galactico signings in one window, he's pushing to leave. That's on him in my books - and for me its too late for him to push for an exit.
Now that he knows its a process and not a snap of the fingers with galactico signings in one window, he's pushing to leave. That's on him in my books - and for me its too late for him to push for an exit.
I really rather doubt that - he has more money than some of the clubs being mentioned as his next destination
Seriously though, I think he is addicted to winning things which is no bad thing for a sportsman
Cristiano Ronaldo’s departure will hurt but now Manchester United can move forward | Manchester United | The Guardian
For once, I'm agreeing with Jonathan Wilson.
For once, I'm agreeing with Jonathan Wilson.
Disapointing if he doesn't turn up for training today.
Yeh I also think maybe he wants to see whether we will spend big this summer to have any chance of turning it around and compete with the likes of City/Liverpool.
But having witness all our rivals are progressing better than us in the market this summer, there seems no chance for us turning our fortune any time soon. It’s more likely going to be 3+ years rebuilding project for us and he doesn’t have time for that.
I don't.
I want him gone now.
Nostalgia is over.
Time to build a new era and find the next icon.
Nostalgia is over.
Time to build a new era and find the next icon.
Spot on article.
Spot on. Those who are saying that he’s obsessed with the competition and for that reason he wants out aren’t wrong, but I feel it only paints a partial picture of the situation.
I’m sure he doesn’t mind missing the competition for a year if it means we’re challenging for the league next season. If there’s one thing he absolutely hates is mediocrity.
Always been a crybaby, just some fanbois here who still can't admit that. He has never loved anyone but himself. A narcissist can always "love" when things go his way, it is in times like these you see his character, and time and time again he shows who he truly is.
At least turn up at Carrington and talk to your manager.
Not going to be at training today due to “family reasons”
Let’s hope we can find a buyer quickly, we need to put this circus behind us.
Let’s hope we can find a buyer quickly, we need to put this circus behind us.
So you think he'd stay if we bought 2, 3 players already? Did he give the club some kind of deadline?
Its not about seeing if we'll spend big or not, he wants people to see it that way of course, he just doesnt want to miss out on CL and if that's the case, which is understandable cheers to him.
Not a nice move though if he wont at least talk to the new manager which it seems he wont at the moment.
I really hope this wont turn out to be a circus, him refusing to train until he gets sold or something.
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I think he already wants to leave once we miss out on CL football, it’s quite obvious isn’t it. But I also think part of him wants to see who we are signing before making his final decision. Who knows, let’s say if we have managed to sign Tchouameni, FDJ, Torres, Nkunku/Nunez, Antony etc this summer, he may want to give it another try.
The reason being, although CL football is his priority, he also doesn’t want to leave us winning nothing this term, his ego wouldn’t accept this either. And if we have good chance of turn things around next season with some statement making signings this summer, maybe he won’t mind to stay here for another season.
So we should make signings in due time to appease him and hope he'll decide to stay. And even if we do make signings he still might leave. I think you're a bit naive.
He should be told that if he wants to leave he needs to submit a transfer request. I don’t see why we should be giving him a loyalty bonus when he does leave.
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Cant any believe a 37 year of would act like this just to add 4 odd goals to an already ridiculous CL goal record
And it's not like Messi will catch up to his record next season.
Why so afraid of losing 38 years old striker on 500k p.w?
Let him go. I would rather have players who want to play for this manager even if they are not good. We can’t ruin our new manager’s first season.
Let him go. I would rather have players who want to play for this manager even if they are not good. We can’t ruin our new manager’s first season.
Get him the feck out of here then. Why are we so keen to hold onto and buy players who don’t want to be here?
My take on all this is that signing Ronaldo caused problems but also solved them.
We had issues with all our other goalscorers going back to before he joined. His arrival didn’t help them though. It arguably made things more difficult for them but his (intermittent) individual excellence got us a lot of the goals we needed with the other attacking players so badly out of form.
If he leaves we could well see better all round attacking play from the team but we would have lost Cavani and Greenwood from the pre-Ronaldo squad with nobody to replace their goals. Which would obviously leave us in deep shit.
We had issues with all our other goalscorers going back to before he joined. His arrival didn’t help them though. It arguably made things more difficult for them but his (intermittent) individual excellence got us a lot of the goals we needed with the other attacking players so badly out of form.
If he leaves we could well see better all round attacking play from the team but we would have lost Cavani and Greenwood from the pre-Ronaldo squad with nobody to replace their goals. Which would obviously leave us in deep shit.
No one is saying this, though. Ronaldo wants out because 1) we're not in the Champions League next season and 2) we haven't signed players despite last season's shambles aren't two mutually exclusive things.
Haha, was a genuine mistake but even there Salah is a 40 goal a season player so the point stands that the days of one player scoring lots of goals is far from gone
Fair assessment. We could, of course, resolve that problem by getting reinforcements in. And if the rumours are true that we knew long time ago that Ronnie would leave without CL football, the question needs to be raised why we aren't even linked to a replacement for him.
Not really. Of course if we could make these signings as it’s only good thing for us to speed up our rebuild process. But I think we really should prepare earlier for possibility of him leaving this summer, as every man and his dog knows Ronaldo wants to play in CL, and we couldn’t give him that.
Well that's a number 2) actually from your post.
I agree about being prepared but on the other side of things Ronaldo should have stated earlier he wants to leave, not 4 days before we go on a preseason tour. The fact we wont be in CL has been a fact for ages. Not to mention if he refuses to train.
We were definitely in for Nunez, right? So they do at least seem to be aware we need more firepower up front. If we don’t sign a quality alternative then we’ve messed up yet another transfer window.
Maybe he is also worried the likes of Haaland would catch up his record in 12-15 years.
But seriously I think playing in CL is only half of his concern, another half is likelihood of winning another trophy here.
Sure he could have said it earlier, but we are still 2 months away from closing day of transfer window, and maybe he really want to take his time during holiday to make this decision, while monitoring our process in transfer market. I mean, last season he only notify Juventus days before last day of window, it’s far worst for them.
Were we seriously in for him? Fair enough if that was the case. I see us being linked to Antony now but he's hardly a 20-goal a season striker either...
Plus: Even if Rashford and Martial find their form again, it would only take 1 or 2 injuries up front and we are down to the bare bone. We simply have to get numbers in for the forward positions.
Lucky us then. In this instance he monitored the situation and then decided he doesnt like it. Or he still may like it. Maybe he'll go to the preseason tour, if he likes what's happening in the next 4 days.
Not really bothered either way. Would prefer him to stay and find it odd his defensive work was made a scapegoat last season when he often played with and out ran team mates 15 years younger who had the work rate of an obese, asthmatic smoker - but if we invest he isn’t irreplaceable
I mean, sure we don’t have budget/chance to buy any 25 goal striker this summer (ie Haaland, Nunez, Nkunku), regardless of him staying or leaving, but we could have still bought a decent backup or squad player anyway. We still have 2 months to go for that option.
We did. A lot of the more hysterical anti-Ronaldos won’t acknowledge this, and seem to think that the likes of Bruno and Rashford will miraculously return to their goal scoring form of 2+ years ago on his departure.
Our lack of options up front is so frustrating and goes back a while. We’re careering towards a situation where Garnacho is the only specialist number 9 in our whole squad!
People make a big deal about Liverpool playing without a striker but they always had Origi. Fergie used to absolutely stack his squad with strikers. Must be completely baffled to see us end up so depleted in arguably the most important position on the pitch.
That’s beside the point anyway. As even if Bruno, Martial and Rashford hit peak form we still needed significant contributions from Cavani and Greenwood to scrape that second place under Ole.
Let him go and start from a clean slate, it's the system that ETH employs that will create load of chances for everyone to score.
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