Ronaldo leaving was the catalyst

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It has brought about a unity and togetherness in the team. Players all fighting for each other, no selfishness. The cohesion is there for all to see and the toxicity and egotistical selfishness that he stained the club with has gone.

Credit to ETH for dealing with this absolutely impeccably.

Love it!

Thank you Piers Morgan!
 
Since Bruno signed 3 years ago I'd love to see the stats with the virus at the club vs without. Things instantly turned to shit when he came and instantly turned good again the moment he was kicked out of the club.
 
2nd without him, utter shite with him, and now things look good without him.
 
Oh, ffs give it a rest. Let's focus on the current squad and manager
 
Ronaldo arriving catalyzed Ole getting sacked and that is the only good thing he brought to United. Everything else was literary toxic. A lot of people misuse the word and call their dad "toxic" when dad makes them wash dishes. Nah, this guy was legit level 10 out of 10 toxicity.
 
Bruno alluded to team togetherness, working hard and being a unit now versus “previous periods” where it was sometimes more about individuals.


Not sure if he’s referring to the previous managers or maybe even hinting at Ronaldo’s influence but either way, amazing!

Also I wouldn’t say getting rid of Ronaldo was a catalyst….signing EtH was the catalyst. The guy hasn’t set a foot wrong yet.
 
There are many catalysts. This is defo one of them. Even when he was here, you could see we play much better without him. Roy Keane must be fuming just now.
 
You only needed eyes to see Ronaldo had a big impact on how we played.

It doesn't diminish his legacy in football to say he was a terrible signing at the time. Ten Hag was unfortunate to have to deal with that so early into his career, because we all knew deep down there isn't a progressive club or manager who wants this version of Cristiano Ronaldo.

But it's ancient history, and I'm glad to see the likes of Varane, Shaw, Casemiro, Bruno and Rashford in serious consistent form.
 
A lot of different things served as the catalysts. One was getting rid of Ronnie. But it really all goes back to the hiring of ETH, a mama her who has a vision and the strength of character to implement that vision, which includes managing the exile of a player as massive as Cristiano Ronaldo.
 
It's been there long before Ronaldo left. He was a lingering distraction, but it only had an influence when he was on the pitch. But we've been the best team in the league essentially since Casemiro came in as the starter.
 
Yes to an extent but this resurgence goes beyond Ronaldo. The structure was already in place and Ronaldo was an ill-timed distraction much like an annoying housefly
 
A lot has gone into this run, a lot of brilliant decisions by Ten Hag.

Ronaldo going helps because he fell of a cliff and is shit now but his reputation still demanded he get games and us such we play with 10 men.
 
It's the opposite. Ronaldo coming back was the catalyst for our mediocrity.
 
Since his last game. 9 games, 9 wins.

I will not be against him, but his departure has been good for us. No question about that.
 
Should have never been brought back to start with. The club and Ole decked up big time with this transfer. If he went to City it would have become a circus with him clashing with Pep continuously I reckon.
 
Actually. Ronaldo arriving was the catalyst as Ole would probably still be in charge otherwise.
The world works in mysterious ways.
 
His antics helped ETH cement himself as a ruthless (but fair) manager to the rest of the squad and the outside world, so I'll thank him for that at least..

Not that Erik wouldn't have done so without that of course.
 
Our 2nd best transfer of the season after Casemiro.
 
I think we have been doing good work prior to him leaving to be fair. I've been happy with the progress under Ten Hag all season (minus the two early defeats)
 
He was an awful signing - definitely set us back in our progress and fair fecks to @simonhch who called it from day 1.
 
Ole's 'reign' was plagued with player power. The guy was so happy with the job that he would have closed an eye to anything for 3 points. Rangnick tried to change that but he was given zero power to achieve that goal. ETH on the other hand was allowed to spend big and do whatever he wanted. That was clear with captain fantastic being sent on the bench, 80m signings being sent to attend individual training and even on form players being sent on the bench for coming late to a meeting.

Ronaldo was the last big obstacle to that. He was United's biggest name and at 37 he was in no mood to press having avoided that throughout his entire career. The moment ETH subbed him, the gloves were off and our future was in balance. Luckily the club held its nerves and chose wisely by taking ETH's side.

ETH's United is far from perfect. However its determined, its well drilled and they know that if they go toe to toe against the manager then they will be on the way out.
 
Ronaldo was actually Sauron, Saruman and Grima Wormtongue all in one.
 
We've won 21 games this season.

7 with Ronaldo starting.
7 with Ronaldo benched.
7 with Ronaldo gone.
 
Nope.

ETH’s strict discipline was.

Even if Ronaldo is still with us, ETH won’t play him. He already did it before he left.
 
Having a midfield is the real catalyst if you think mctominay and matic instead of casemiro and eriksen would still be winning 9 in a row, you're crazy
 
He's sitting in his ice bathtub, crying. Somewhere in his desert view backyard in Saudi.
 
I think we have been doing good work prior to him leaving to be fair. I've been happy with the progress under Ten Hag all season (minus the two early defeats)
Spot on. Ten Hag is the catalyst, not Ronaldo, but some people love to make everything about him.

If any transfer was the catalyst, it was Casemiro, there's no chance we'd be this solid with McFred.
 
It’s hardly ever that simple. But it’s a part of a set of decisions all thanks to ETH

How he dealt with Ronaldo was massive. If a new manager came in and just rudely dropped him it could have been very different. Ten Haag was fair to Ronaldo and lenient but only to a limit.

Till the very end he wasn’t vindictive and that made the team respect him.

There are also countless other decisions you can’t just ignore. Eriksons transfer Casemiros arrival. Ten Haag is behind our success.

On a side note, that Ronaldo interview really helped out the team and fans on one page. After that 99 percent of Ronaldo fans just decided to back the team over every decision
 
I think it is more like ETH>Casemiro>Rashford>the rest of the new signings>Ronaldo is the order of catalyst.
 
He knew what he was doing by making himself a martyr for the good of the team. Well played, Mr Ronaldo.

Siu.