They have sold far far far better than us and have given their signings extremely long contracts.
Romeo Lavia | Chelsea bound?
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It's not that different from your own situation with Caicedo where you were fecking about for weeks and another team came knocking with more urgency. It's rather that Caicedo stuck to his word (at least that's my understanding) while Lavia jumped ship. And, not wanting to sound too sour on this, but you offered a longer contract and higher wages for both of them than we did. Sometimes that's how simple it is.
This whole fiasco the last week or so coupled with the Saudi Arabia exodus have already made me fed up with football for the new season tbh.
assuming all 3 of those are a hit, and ignoring that those 3 make a pretty defensive group of midfielders. But could work well.
Don't forget the contribution United committing daylight robbery for 3 points had on your mood
We didn’t faff about offering 70 and 80M for Caicedo and then drop 110M on some other midfielder though and then come back with tails between the legs when the bigger move flopped, which I guess is the issue? I don’t know. It could be he felt lied to? Who knows what Liverpool were telling him before they jumped ship to Caicedo. It’s just what the Belgian journalist reported.
I hear you though. I thought you would get Lavia. I thought that was the best move for him.
Pressure on Poch to start the season strong and to finish at least 4th or Boehly will be seeking yet another manager.
FFP was designed to incentivize clubs to be sustainable and possibly curb what one may call "financial doping". It's not so much a limitation on spending rather than said spending (and wage bill) have to be commensurate to revenue. At least that's my understanding.
We'll see next year if Chelsea is qualified for an Euro competition but I think they won't deviate all that much. They surely have an army of accountant optimizing their books to make sure of that. Maybe eat a fine, but not excluded.
I understand that he'd be frustrated but clubs move like that all the time no? If he was leaning towards Chelsea anyway and that was a final straw then it's an obvious choice, but if he was swayed purely based on that then it's a little surprising ngl. Liverpool certainly mucked this up though.
They'd take 5th this season I'm sure
they have no european distractions....i think they will finish top 4
Boehly will be seeking champions league football for next season as minimal target I'm sure. Was no such pressure on Poch when he was Spurs manager and back then a lot of teams were either in transition or in decline.
I think it's understood that clubs will negotiate multiple deals at the same time. I think it's far less common to see a buying club claim both to the player they're buying and publicly that they need to pinch pennies to the extent where 5m makes or breaks the bank only to turn around and agree a record-breaking fee for a different player in the same position.
Enzo really isn’t defensive at all. He’ll gladly get stuck in if needed but as we saw against Liverpool at the weekend he’s all about getting on the ball and dictating the forward play. He’s our new Fabregas but with legs.
The two new DM’s should really free him up to focus on what he does best without us getting carved through on the counter.
Must be nice
Yes so they'll be happy with 5th place then as I said
Nobody likes/wants to feel like a 2nd choice or backup option no matter the context
You're right that's not that cutthroat for football, but he's a very young lad, probably was told all the right things about being LFC's choice... before seeing mixed signals and then being offered a possibly better deal by Chelsea.
From the outside it does really seem Lavia was the identified target for Liverpool and that they jumped on the Caicedo auction purely on opportunity and to make some sort of statement.
I guess this is true. In honesty I haven't followed neither Liverpool's nor Chelsea's progress/media hints on him throughout the saga so perhaps I'm not appreciating how much Liverpool may have made a mockery of it.
It's actually an annoyingly great midfield setup on paper. Our only hope is Real unsettle Enzo and Caceido downs tools for Barca.
Boehly wants instant success and with the money spent since he arrived I doubt he'll be happy enough with 5th place.
It gets them CL and then they can spend another 500 million next summer on strikers
How are they spending this much money? 
From what I've seen it seems like a case of trying their luck with him, then thinking they could actually climb up to his more attractive friend, before being turned down by the latter and now the initial guy doesn't want to be a sloppy second. Yah I could see how that hurts one's pride.
Neither would be able to afford them due to La Liga FFP rules. Especially Barca. They’re scratching around for loans currently.
If we spent over £100m on each of them can you imagine the prices we’d demand if Madrid came knocking? More than they’d be willing to pay.
Doesn't 5th place get ucl football this season, so if Chelsea di finish 5th that will be a good season surely?
Probably some amortization accounting gimmicks.How are they spending this much money?
Spending close to a billion and then ending up fifth is a good season now?
On paper a good midfield, kudos to them. Will have to click though.
After almost a billion spent over the last 3 windows, anything short of a title challenge should be a disappointment honestly.
Especially when they're only playing once a week this season.
But if you amortize those expectations over 8 years then top half finishes will be perfectly acceptable. Or something.
Expecting almost literally an entirely new team under a brand new manager to challenge a winning machine who have been under their manager for ages and are completely settled just isn’t happening. Maybe in the pre-Pep era anything less than a title challenge would be a failure.
The remit for this season after all this money spent should be a top 4 finish. Really, without European football it should be to have a comfortable top 4 finish.
The remit for this season after all this money spent should be a top 4 finish. Really, without European football it should be to have a comfortable top 4 finish.
Not really how it works though is it?
Don't forget the contribution United committing daylight robbery for 3 points had on your mood
That's one exciting set of midfielders.
The Mount sale alone unlocked roughly £275m of additional allowable spending this summer. You're welcome, Chelsea.
Thank you!
Regen of Pochettino wonder boy moussa Dembele. I can see why Pochettino seem as happy as he was as spurs. Perhaps even happier because he doesn’t have to deal with levy and not being supported by the board. I m sure Pochettino will mold Lavia to be his moussa Dembele
Honestly, Real seem to be set up in midfield for the next 5-7 years with Camavinga, Tchouameni, Valverde and of course Bellingham. And they still have Kroos and Modric. Barca would have to actually find the money to afford that. This is where the very long contract Enzo is on comes to play.
A good season for me is a very comfortable top 4 finish (say 3rd but just under City-Arsenal by a hair) and a cup. Next season we can go full steam ahead with the challenge.
Lavia and Caicedo are not directly comparable since they're both at different levels of progression, so I don't buy in to the narrative that Lavia got pissed that Liverpool were willing to break the bank for Caicedo but not him. As much as I hate Boehly and co, they seem to be incredibly good at selling their vision to the players they want while Liverpool's pitch seems to be "we have Klopp plus we won't pay you market wages, hahaha". I get Liverpool's point of view as well since it would disrupt their wage structure which has worked for them so well.
Boehley is like an American Abramovich. I remember when Roman first came into the League; he was spending money like a kid in a candy store too.
How come Chelsea is so blessed? Meanwhile, we are scraping around for a few quid to pay players off.
How come Chelsea is so blessed? Meanwhile, we are scraping around for a few quid to pay players off.