Lavia and his advisors are idiots. Stupid move. He isnt going to get game time ahead of enzo, nkunku and caiciedo.
Romeo Lavia | Chelsea bound?
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Lavia and his advisors are idiots. Stupid move. He isnt going to get game time ahead of enzo, nkunku and caiciedo.
I really don’t.
It’s a joke how much Chelsea are spending.
It's a shame to see two of the most talented young players in the league join Chelsea but almost worth it to see Liverpool in the mud. 
I don't think he's at his best playing that high up.
Maybe we could go for a 4-3-3 till Nkunku is back and start with a Lavia-Fernandez-Caicedo midfield (ironically abbreviated LFC
) and have Chukwuemeka, Gallagher and Santos in backup capacity but even that's only a short term fix. Once Nkunku's back he's going to be a starter so what do we do then if we have all those midfielders? Someone's going to end up missing out big time.Sure it's hilarious that Liverpool are being fecked over, but Chelsea have been a cancer to football ever since that Russian dickhead bought them in 2003 and starting throwing money around to an obscene degree. Feck them too.
We can laugh at Liverpool but Chelsea could be looking fecking scary in a season or two
their team is still largely full of nothing players, apart from Reece james I wouldn’t take any of those players Over any of ours.
I'm sure city and arsenal fans would say the same.
Can’t wait for all his stupid interviews and gurning pitchside. More than you believe I need it
"He turned us down, la-via"
A serious amount of really too young talent. Lavia - Caicedo - Enzo looks like it could be a serious midfield
haha this is brilliant!
The scousers must be livid
The scousers must be livid
I think I’ve figured it out: in the first half we abandoned the midfield square we have been establishing under Poch, but in the second we took the risk and used it but with Colwill having to make up part of the square or slide back into pure defense quickly (risky)
Essentially once you gain possession, Olise would tuck in center - right, Enzo comes up center left, and Caicedo and Lavia make up the back two of the square.
Having Gallagher as a main option necessitated the back 3, at least against Pool.
That’s assuming both Lavia and Olise go through, otherwise Nkunku would have been in there
Carney isnt ready to be the focal point of our attack transition. Nkunku or Olise being available could change the shape options there as well.
I do t necessarily MIND getting Lavia, but I don’t get excited about players just to “beat” teams in signing wars. My concerns are more about Santos’ minutes. I really do believe he will be special.
He’s tactically flexible enough that if he doesn’t outright win a spot he could change out with any of them for minutes.
So you think Enzo, Caicedo and Nkunku wouldn't start for just about any side in the league?
I'm curious what Lavia is thinking here. He is not getting ahead of Caicedo or Enzo Fernandez, and they're both young and higher rated, so how is he going to break through there? For Liverpool, he would be playing week in week out. How much do people think he is going to play for Chelsea?
I’m guessing more money and London.
Nkunku? How good you think he is? How many players that do well in Bundesliga translate that level to Premier League?
Why should you care? Him refusing Liverpool is mud on their face and let's laugh at them
I think one worry we'd expect a young player to have is to get lost in the shuffle and no guarantee a lot of first team play. With the amount of players coming in and out last two summers, I'd also wonder if the club wouldn't supposedly buy another flavor du jour at the same position.
That's maybe more true for Lavia than Caicedo. Lavia would have had a lot of opportunity to play in LFC's mid for maximum development.
I understand Chelsea owners might be operating with a farm system in mind but at some point there must be diminishing returns in stockpiling players at very high fees, both on what you can out on the pitch and how much revenue you could get on resale. If the Saudi league influx continues there will be a slightly higher number of clients but there's not a lot of clubs that could afford some of Chelsea's recent acquisition 2 or 3 years from now.
Plenty.
Haaland, DeBruyne, Gungogan, Aubamayang, Son, Ballack, Kompany, Firminho.
Obviously you have your Werners and Sanchos but there's not more flops from Germany than anywhere else.
To spend is one thing. To spend on average players wich they are doing is another. To spend shocking amount money last two years and have that team is speechless.
If only.
There are actually very few when you consider the amount of players that have come from Bundesliga. Haaland was a freak and already showed insane potential in Champions League and in the Austrian league before his move. Kompany was also one of the highest rated defenders in the world at Anderlecht.
Sancho, Mkhitaryan, Kagawa, Pulisic, Marko Marin, Podolski, Havertz, Leon Bailey, Werner, Haller, Schweinsteiger, Hargreaves, Schurrle, Naby Keita.
What Nkunku has shown in Bundesliga, particularly in terms of goals and assists, is not something he's going to match in Premier League. He's a good player, but nothing special and not close to world class as some on here will have you believe.
You can give me a list of great players who moved from the Italian, French or Spanish league and I'll give you a ton more flops from those leagues, just like from Germany.
Wesley Fofana may end up a permanent medical write off. Even now I would imagine his wages and even a years percentage of his fee are being covered by insurance.
Datro Fofana is talented, but his base salary is only 35k p/w and he is meant for one of the other tiers of our system like Strassbourg unless he makes huge jumps.If he good but not sprctacular, an athletic, developing striker doing well abroad isnt hard to sell on those wages, especially when those wages will seem minuscule in 3 to 4 years.
Heck, Mudryk is only on 97k/wk.
We had people interested in Cucurella. His contract and wages aren’t huge. Selling him after only one year seems premature, and it would definitely be a loss, with all of his original fee coming due immediately, but that has little to do with his contract length. If we decided to part ways with him in a less active window like next Summer it certainly wouldnt be impossible.
off topic … but I genuinely would like to see how Cucu plays with a hair cut. I swear some of the actions he seems blind to are related to those poodle blinders ….
Go on then
Dude, enough shite has played for Chelsea over the past 30 years from all corners of the world. For every Fabregas there are Del Hornos & Moratas. For every Robben there are Zenden & Boulahrouzs.
Bundesliga imports get a bad wrap on this website because for Man United, they've mostly been shite.
Liverpool being screwed over by Chelsea Poch having a better pull than klopp. I’d of thought Liverpool would have been more appealing especially since everyone knows they’re desperate for a number 6 so the player would be guaranteed more game time there.
Poch having a better pull than klopp. I’d of thought Liverpool would have been more appealing especially since everyone knows they’re desperate for a number 6 so the player would be guaranteed more game time there.Stop. Stop. Amadeus can't get harder than thatLiverpool being screwed over by Chelsea
I find is this stuff genuinely surprising and entertaining.
Maybe it’s a cultural thing, but here in the states you have 13 year old kids that can explain to you why the defensive end for their favorite team needs to be restructured with some up front money because his cap number goes from 5 mil this year to nearly 16 m the next.
And yet ANY sort of sports accounting is being treated like Chelsea introduced alchemy or tried to convince people magic was real over there. It’s fascinating.
Carragher fuming on Sky.
That is true.
The point is that there aren't really a lot of players from Bundesliga that end up great in Premier League. There are some, but very few. That is not to say that Nkunku will be a failure, but I think you're going to be disappointed with Nkunku. The fact that he's injured for a long time doesn't really help either.
Love to watch it. Love it when Neville try’s rubbing it in aswell
The best outcome for me is that Liverpool miss out on Lavia to Chelsea, and their midfield is weak, but Chelsea continue to look disjointed with lots of big money signings not gelling, and also get fecked by FFP. We live in hope
And Chelsea. Werner, Havertz, Pulisic, Schürrle, Boulahrouz, Pizarro, Marin, Rahman, Kneißl…
Pulisic
We also had Ballack, and Rudiger. Also Havertz gets a pass from the shit list because of that goal.
So that’s 2,5 good signings from the 11 I counted.
Yeah, that's probably the same "good/shit" ratio as our signings from other leagues.