We should bear in mind that should he join us here he will receive more support and better quality service than he does get at Everton.
Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms
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Everton were one of the top chance creators in the league last season (15/16) from what I can remember
A quick scan suggests that we are better at Everton than creating chances with more key passes per game. We are also top of the leaderboard for big chances missed, which we hope someone can remedy. Whether that's Lukaku or not I guess we stand to find out.
I think you mean 16/17
16/17 is last season right?
Anyhow had a look at 15/16 season and Everton have improved slightly from 15/16 to last season, but are around about the same. But it's us who've shown a drastic increase in chances created from LVG's approach to Mourinho's. Plus the additions of Pogba etc.
I wasn't trying to say Everton were better than us.
I was referring to his goal tally in 15/16 and I believe I remember Everton were one of the top chance creators, so I didin't believe his numbers were THAT impressive.
Ah I see fair enough. Correct me if I'm wrong but chances created doesn't account for the goals that Lukaku makes for himself? So there's that to account for too.
Its more that when everyone says he would get 30 at United, I am not always fully convinced. He certainly has the potential to though.
His record in crunch games though worries me.
He also gets more space playing at Everton, we regularly come up against parked buses and his ability to operate in tight spots isn't great. He also goes missing in big games and has little to no champions league experience. He's surely a good goalscorer but for the 70-80m he would cost I don't think he would greatly elevate us or give any new dimensions to our attack.
I'm aware of the differences, but shouldn't we try?
How could I possibly know his mindset? Should that be a precursor to not trying, and going for Madrid cast offs instead? Every player has his price
Nothing makes me think he wants to join us, but you could say that about every 'target' we've been linked with. All I'm saying is there is an obvious goalscorer out there proven in the PL that should be a target. If we don't get him then fine but we should be trying to lure him given our apparent spending power. Yes Spurs finished second but united have actual trophy experience and a proven silverware winning manager.
Some prices can never be met and those players you call cast offs, even tough they are not, are much better than the ones currently playing for us. Robben and Sneijder were true Madrid cast offs but I dont remember Bayern or Inter ever being regretful of buy them.
How do we know what can't be met if attempts are not made? I do understand your point but United as a club should be trying to go for the best option, not the gamble option. If we fail then we fail. Fine. That didn't stop us trying to get Shearer back in the day from a team who'd recently won the PL and it shouldn't stop us from now trying to prise a striker away from a team who have won nothing yet.
If there is even a remote chance of Kane leaving Spurs, there would have been at least some rumors. Even if Kane wants to leave, Levy is a known shylock prick that will deman a ton of flesh to sell. Kane is a very good player but not at the get him at all costs level.
I love how it's considered to be a bad thing to not wanting to sell your best players if you're Levy, while it's the exact same thing you want to do regarding DeGea and Madrid.
I have never said it was a bad thing. Its simply business.I love how it's considered to be a bad thing to not wanting to sell your best players if you're Levy, while it's the exact same thing you want to do regarding DeGea and Madrid.
Yeah fair enough, wasn't aimed at you in particular really, but I've seen it a few times how Levy is a horrible chairman who keeps players hostage and so on.
As it should be as I hope opposition fans dont think Ed is a nice guy
For all intents and purposes my as well close this one now. With Costa being told to find himself a new club Lukaku will now be a Chelsea player come August
Lukaku is a downgrade from Costa so all is good in my books..
Think he'll be better in front of goal than Costa but I think Costa's overall game is better, in all honesty.
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So Lukaku says he's already made his mind up which team he's moving to. Surely that would depend on said team and if so, and there's an agreement in place, then there's been plenty of contact and that is tapping up. So I await the outcome of this with interest
So Lukaku says he's already made his mind up which team he's moving to. Surely that would depend on said team and if so, and there's an agreement in place, then there's been plenty of contact and that is tapping up. So I await the outcome of this with interest
He van make any decision he dijks without having to be tapped up.
So Lukaku says he's already made his mind up which team he's moving to. Surely that would depend on said team and if so, and there's an agreement in place, then there's been plenty of contact and that is tapping up. So I await the outcome of this with interest
Or maybe the club he wants to join talked to Everton before agreeing with Lukaku. So you can wait for the outcome.
On holiday in LA with Agent Pogba right now. I'm going to look for them tomorrow.
I reckon he's coming to us, lads
You got the inside scoop?
We are not buying two strikers. And certainly not him for so much money.
He may well want to come here but it's not happening. Makes no sense as Jose won't be playing both him and Morata, so who will sit on the bench? Also, doubt his attitude has changed so can't see Mourinho getting along with him. We'll be stuck after spending that much money. Please God no.
Reading this you'd think we were signing Mark Walters.
I'm not 100% on Lukaku but at the very least you know he'll score plenty of goals.
You reckon the Morata deal has hit the rocks?
It's Morata or Morata and Lukaku. Think Morata will be done by the weekend, and still have big doubts we'd go for both.
I'm not convinced he'll score plenty of goals for us.
In any case, I cannot see us spending that kind of money on two strikers. Why isn't Morata enough and why can't Jose put some faith and get Martial and Rashford properly coached, instead of spending all this money on a guy with as much technique as my little finger? He's also got a shit attitude and not much of a 'football brain' - cannot see him blending with the players we have imho.[/
You have to think he'd be a more "sure thing" than Morata in the Premier League given that he scored 25 goals in a worse team last season whereas Morata has never played here and has spent his career as a squad player to date.
But he's played in a system that was set up for him, and he's one dimensional. I also worry about him actually stepping up and playing for a huge club, compared to Everton. How would he deal with the expectations? He's also never great against the big teams, plus we're playing technically accomplished teams in the CL, he won't be any good there imho. He's technique is too shit. Plus he won't be on the same wavelength with our other attacking players.
In any case, it doesn't make sense to go for both - why would Mourinho do that? Why would he suddenly use two strikers? It's way out of character, and as we've seen, he's not actually flexible in his methods.
So do I.
I would definitely not say no to both. Don't think we will sign both but maybe a good deal for Rooney will curry favour for us with Everton. I would have liked two forward signings this summer.
Well, yes, he played as a lone striker in a system not dissimilar to the one we played. To be honest, some of those home games against weaker opponents that we drew last season we probably would have won with Lukaku bullying their defence into submission.
As to "one dimensional" a striker's main job or dimension is to score goals, and he does that.
So with this Rooney rumoured Rooney deal, is this a going concern again? What price would people accept him for?
Exactly. Flat-track bullies can win you leagues
Exactly. Flat-track bullies can win you leagues
Strikers like Lukaku win big teams league titles by pummeling small sides into submission. The idea that big games arw where titles are won and lost is often mistaken. In those games a team effort is required. That is why I don't buy the idea Lukaku doesnt show up in big games. Its more like Everton does not show up in big games. People forget big games are often where he'd get the best attention from the best defenders. And given that he is known at times for not being involved enough, its no surprise his record would shrink vs big teams. After all Everton are often on the back foot in them games....
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