While he is young, let's not forget he started at what 16? He's quite big too. He could tail off somewhat like Rooney earlier then you'd think. So that's to be considered.
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While he is young, let's not forget he started at what 16? He's quite big too. He could tail off somewhat like Rooney earlier then you'd think. So that's to be considered.
Not developed not sure about that but the main thing is he would score 25+ goals a year here at OT.
We reckon this is happening?
Probably with Rooney going the other way.
Probably with Rooney going the other way.
Some of the criticism about him is laughable. He doesn't score against big teams and all that nonsense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/6e3an6/lukaku_and_other_pltopscorers_vs_top_6_teams/
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/6e3an6/lukaku_and_other_pltopscorers_vs_top_6_teams/
Yes against the bottom 10 teams. What happens when we play the better teams?
Scored more than Costa vs big teams.
And how do all the other big strikers do against the top teams? Everton are a smaller team too so presumably there are less chances for Lukaku than for a striker playing at a bigger club too.
I'm of two minds when it comes to Lukaku. On one hand, He's a young, powerful, athletic player with a good scoring record and has always had great potential. He's very good friends with Pogba and is experienced in the league so I doubt there would be any bedding-in period. On the other hand, his hold up play and general play outside the box isn't great (we saw how much we missed that after Zlatan got hurt), and he is at a team that is built around him and caters to his strengths. Before this past season he was a streaky player, although it could be attributed to his age and Everton's own inconsistency under Martinez. My big concern though is his ability in tight spaces, we come up against two banks of 5 on a weekly basis and I'm sceptical of his ability to operate in these situations. Furthermore, it seems whenever a defender can match him physically, he doesn't have the skill or the decision making to adapt to it, we saw our own physical freak Bailly absolutely crucify him at OT this season. In all I would probably be underwhelmed with the signing, but I'd prefer him to other names we're linked to like Belotti and Morata.
If you want a fair comparison, you limit to only league games and include Everton. Also Costa was unsettled for a significant part of the season which affected his performance.
If we'd have had his goals last season vs the weaker teams most of those draws becomes wins and we are right up there in the title mix.
Lukaku scored 4 league goals, 2 vs City, 1 vs Arsenal, 1 vs Spurs.
So now you started with excuses for other players. Good day.
I'd prefer Morata but if he isn't coming Lukaku is the man, he is better than Belotti and certainly better than Lacazette (who is just a penalty fraud)
He's class I don't get it, scores over 20 every season and is a monster in terms of pace and strength. He was bullying Rojo at OT this season pushing him around.
He's a good player in the same way that Benteke is a good player. But just like the latter; those type of 'big lumps' with technical limitations just don't fit in at clubs with title winning aspirations.
If you look at the list of first choice strikers who have led us to titles it's no surprise that they all were technically superior to Lukaku.
So only what you say is valid and one must take your numbers as is?
If you think Lukaku is as good as Costa cos of some selective stats, then I agree that this discussion should end as is.
I think I'm joining this camp. Lukaku > Lacazette. Belotti I know nothing about.
Lukaku is "big lump"?
It's like few rate people based on their height and physical strength.
Take my number? Go and check them in transfermarkt, whoscored.com which keeps track of his all games. So are you going you to argue that he didn't score 4 league goals against top 6 this season?
It wasn't me who brought the selective stats, you said he scores only against small clubs when the fact is he scored more than Costa and as many as Kane vs top 6 teams.
Btw, what you said about Costa is looking for excuses, like his mind was in China, he didn't wear his Chelsea underwear or his tights was too tight.
He's absolutely nothing like Benteke though. What a weird comparison.
If you tell me a striker scored 15 goals last season, I can tell that's not a particularly good return. I know that top strikers get quite a bit more than that. But if you tell me a striker scored a certain amount against 'big' teams I will have no background knowledge that I can judge it against. It's a useless stat unless you adduce data about other strikers with regards to big games.
They're both big, strong, powerful runners who are most dangerous in the air. Nothing strange about the comparison at all.
Big, Dark (not sure if we can use it), Belgian so Benteke = Lukaku
Big, Dark, played for Chelsea so Lukaku = Drogba
Except both have very different strengths and style of play.
Big fan of Lukaku and I think he would be an excellent signing. I would be all for this.
I don't understand why Jose sold him at Chelsea but apparently wants him back at Utd. Either this is fake news, Jose isn't selecting transfers or he has changed his mind.
They both have similar strengths and similar weaknesses. Strikers with poor close control don't last at teams with top aspirations.
Thank you.
I wonder if there was this much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments when SAF signed Dwight Yorke.
It's pretty well known - I would have thought, anyway - that Mourinho was a fan of Lukaku and wanted him to stick around but Lukaku wanted to be playing regularly. The media of course made up their usual bollox that he and Mourinho had a falling out but it's been proven time-and-again, that these stories were rubbish. Lukaku is exactly the kind of player that Mourinho likes.
He sold him because he couldn't promise him regular playing time, having just signed Costa, and Lukaku wanted to leave.
He will be completely pressed out of the game as his touch and hold up play is horrible.
This will be our very own Caroll/Benteke moment if it happens.
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this is the guy, if we can the price down to 60-70 than its great value. He's 24, if it doesn't work out in two years and we can sell him for 50 in the epl to a midtable team like West Ham or Arsenal with the steadily rising transfer costs and wages. we can't win Champions League with him, but with Lukaku we got a good shot at winning the EPL.
Really surprised at the hate Lukaku gets on here.
I personally think he has proven himself to be a top class striker.
Obviously he's not a £100 million player, but I'd have no problem with us spending around £60 million on him.
I personally think he has proven himself to be a top class striker.
Obviously he's not a £100 million player, but I'd have no problem with us spending around £60 million on him.
You shouldn't be; Kane is still shite according to some on here. Bizarre.
Like I said on the previous page, the notion that he's a big lump of a striker is a bit off. His goals tend to come from pace, taking up good positions in the box and good movement rather than brute strength. If you took away some of his size those qualities would still remain.
PL games - 36(1)
Home - 18
Away - 18(1) (came on in 38')
Sub on - 1, Sub off - 2; 88'/game
Goals(Matches) - 25(17) inc. 1 pen
Home - 16(11)
Away - 9(6)
1 goal - 12
2 goals - 3
3+ goals - 2
Goals against teams/Matches
Top 3rd(1-6) - 4/11 inc. 1 pen
Mid 3rd(8-14) - 11/14
Bott 3rd(15-20) - 10/12
Goals to Results(Everton's season results)
Win - 12 (17; came on as subs in win against WBA)
Draw - 2 (10; didn't feature in draw with Spurs)
Loss - 3 (11)
Goals to points earned - 15 points
3-0 Sunderland(A) 3 goals = 3 points
3-1 Middlesbrough(H) 1 goal(3-1) 45+1' = 0 point [1 assist]
1-1 C.Palace(H) 1 goal(1-0) 35' = 1 point
1-1 Man City(A) 1 goal(1-0) 64' = 1 point
2-0 Westham(H) 1 goal(1-0) 50' = 3 points [1 assist]
2-3 Watford(A) 2 goals(1-0, 2-3) 17', 86' = 0 points
2-0 Leicester(A) 1 goal(2-0) 91' = 0 point
3-0 Southampton(H) 1 goal(3-0) 89' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-0 Man City(H) 1 goal(1-0) 34' = 3 points
6-3 Bournemouth(H) 4 goals(1-0, 3-0, 4-2, 5-2) 1', 29', 83', 84' = 3 points
2-0 Sunderland(H) 1 goal(2-0) 80' = 0 point
2-3 Tottenham(A) 1 goal(1-2) 81' = 0 point
3-0 Westbrom(H) 1 goal (3-0) 82' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-0 Hull(H) 2 goals(3-0, 4-0) 91', 94' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-2 Leicester(H) 2 goals(2-2, 4-2) 23', 57' = 1 point
3-1 Burnley(H) 1 goal(3-1) 74' = 0 point
1-3 Arsenal(A) 1 pen (1-2) 58' = 0 point
[He has 6 assists among which 5 were in matches where he also scored and 1 when Everton lost to Burnley. Couldn't find the scores during those assist to get an accurate stats on total points contribution]
Doesn't look like a 100m player to me. Will have to compare with Ibra and Kane to predict his approx value to us.
Home - 18
Away - 18(1) (came on in 38')
Sub on - 1, Sub off - 2; 88'/game
Goals(Matches) - 25(17) inc. 1 pen
Home - 16(11)
Away - 9(6)
1 goal - 12
2 goals - 3
3+ goals - 2
Goals against teams/Matches
Top 3rd(1-6) - 4/11 inc. 1 pen
Mid 3rd(8-14) - 11/14
Bott 3rd(15-20) - 10/12
Goals to Results(Everton's season results)
Win - 12 (17; came on as subs in win against WBA)
Draw - 2 (10; didn't feature in draw with Spurs)
Loss - 3 (11)
Goals to points earned - 15 points
3-0 Sunderland(A) 3 goals = 3 points
3-1 Middlesbrough(H) 1 goal(3-1) 45+1' = 0 point [1 assist]
1-1 C.Palace(H) 1 goal(1-0) 35' = 1 point
1-1 Man City(A) 1 goal(1-0) 64' = 1 point
2-0 Westham(H) 1 goal(1-0) 50' = 3 points [1 assist]
2-3 Watford(A) 2 goals(1-0, 2-3) 17', 86' = 0 points
2-0 Leicester(A) 1 goal(2-0) 91' = 0 point
3-0 Southampton(H) 1 goal(3-0) 89' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-0 Man City(H) 1 goal(1-0) 34' = 3 points
6-3 Bournemouth(H) 4 goals(1-0, 3-0, 4-2, 5-2) 1', 29', 83', 84' = 3 points
2-0 Sunderland(H) 1 goal(2-0) 80' = 0 point
2-3 Tottenham(A) 1 goal(1-2) 81' = 0 point
3-0 Westbrom(H) 1 goal (3-0) 82' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-0 Hull(H) 2 goals(3-0, 4-0) 91', 94' = 0 point [1 assist]
4-2 Leicester(H) 2 goals(2-2, 4-2) 23', 57' = 1 point
3-1 Burnley(H) 1 goal(3-1) 74' = 0 point
1-3 Arsenal(A) 1 pen (1-2) 58' = 0 point
[He has 6 assists among which 5 were in matches where he also scored and 1 when Everton lost to Burnley. Couldn't find the scores during those assist to get an accurate stats on total points contribution]
Doesn't look like a 100m player to me. Will have to compare with Ibra and Kane to predict his approx value to us.
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No they don't.
Benteke is your typical target man who likes the ball to his feet (or head) and thrives on crosses into the box. Lukaku is nothing like that. In fact that's the weakest part of his game.
Some of the criticism is over the top, I do think he could add more to his game and become a better player but he's just turned 24 and will get better in that aspect.
Finishing wise he scores all types of goals, obviously a threat in the air but has scored a lot of goals with his right foot at Everton. He'd score a lot of goals at OT but obviously the price is an issue, he's got 2 years left on his current deal so Everton are hardly in a brilliant position.
Finishing wise he scores all types of goals, obviously a threat in the air but has scored a lot of goals with his right foot at Everton. He'd score a lot of goals at OT but obviously the price is an issue, he's got 2 years left on his current deal so Everton are hardly in a brilliant position.
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