the bitterness is strong in this oneRomelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms
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the bitterness is strong in this oneThere was a bit of a meltdown, not happy with the price. 140 odd pages since the BBC story. They want Chelsea to come in to up the bid. The common concensus I've seen, is Lukaku as a player isn't worth £75m, but his goals are worth more than that. Some bitterness, some upset he's leaving and generally think it's going to be a step down for them no matter who they sign to replace him.
You got played sir. Again.
It's actually really crazy when you think about it.
Maybe Lukaku was always our target for the striking position and Real Madrid are in fact asking 90m for Bale and not Morata?
Well waiving Rooney's fee would save us 13 million in wages. And who would actually pay that fee for him?
You're a clown. Asking United to pay over £70 million for your benchwarmer was ridiculous.lol he's just breathing out, your belly always puffs out. Not an ounce of fat on him!
Difference in price is we are buying a PL first team starter who is proven to score goals. Not saying that he is better than Morata, but I can see why United wouldn't budge on Reals absurd price for someone they value no higher than a place on the bench. Problem with your shower of a club, is they want their cake and eat it at the same time. feck to Real.
Awww bless
Oh bitter, bitter....
Very effective? Surely not.
If Lukaku tweets saying "happy to have signed for Burnley" then he may have a point...
we paid more for him than we offered for Morata because we wanted him more.
Bloated.
I think 75m is a fair price for everyone in today's market. He doesn't want to be at the club anymore and United haven't over paid IMO
Maybe Lukaku was always our target for the striking position and Real Madrid are in fact asking 90m for Bale and not Morata?
Could be so.
We could've also been playing Madrid the whole time to get some money off Lukaku, so in the end we'll be paying 75 and not 100 mil pounds for him. Not the first time we'd have done that, just like when our fax machine, you know, 'broke down'.
Yeah I think it's fair, but they were fed a line from the owner, via Jim White that the price was £100m or nothing and are annoyed that the price that broke is lower than that.
I'l wait for the official figures to be released. There were lots of exaggerated numbers thrown around regarding the Pogba deal as well. There's plenty of sensationalist journalism out there, try not to believe it all right away.
Also, through all your bitterness, anger or whatever it is that fuels your post, have you ever wondered whether Perez was simply unsure of even selling Morata? The market is dry for quality strikers, your club has plenty of games, Zidane likes Morata as a backup striker and needs a good rotational player. Perhaps it was a matter of Real Madrid simply considering their options and still not being sure whether they even want to sell Morata and us not wanting to go into preseason without our new striker in place?
Hasnt his goalscoring record against the top 6 already been debunked though? I think there were some stats posted earlier in the thread but the pace this thing is moving at there is little chance of finding them again
Suck it up real fans...
You have one angry boy on your hands and nobody to blame but yourselves. And just for good measure, Hamez bid incoming.
You have one angry boy on your hands and nobody to blame but yourselves. And just for good measure, Hamez bid incoming.
Lol I'm not bitter, pretty happy we get to keep Morata or sell him to Chelsea doesn't matter really
I'm just laughing at the absurdity of spending 114me on LUKAKU!
Not Mbappe, not Auba, not Cavani, not Lewandowski, not a top 10 striker in the world, not even the best striker in the EPL, not even the second best striker in the EPL
Hilarious!
I'm just laughing at the absurdity of spending 114me on LUKAKU!
Not Mbappe, not Auba, not Cavani, not Lewandowski, not a top 10 striker in the world, not even the best striker in the EPL, not even the second best striker in the EPL
Hilarious!
You've done the maths wrong there, see
Lukaku 75+15=90m in fees BUT then they take the liability that is Rooney which is basically like giving United 50m cash in had. Lukaku therefore only cost 40m
#maths
That's adorable.
Huh?
I don't know why you're comparing Hazard to Lukaku, tbh. One has been touted as a potential world-beating superstar, tore up the French league two seasons in a row and has some genuinely world class facets to his game, the other has had a very good time of it in league football in both Belgium and England thus far, but has never been expected to be an elite of his generation.
Hazard has a lot to do to be mentioned in the same breath as the true top dogs of club football.
With the international football snarc, you're plain and simply being purposely obtuse. It, along with the CL, will always be barometers that assess players as the full(er) product, or the real deal, if you wish.
If we sign him, of course I wish him/us the best and hope he can elevate himself to levels as yet unseen, but where we aspire to be and what he has brought to the table to date are some distance apart. Is Lukaku the guy to lead a CL campaign? When you put his name up against the strikers in the competition, does it match - does he look like he has the same pedigree as them?
And £75m is a lot of money. May well be there or thereabouts the going rate for a performing PL striker over a few seasons, but it is still a hell of a lot of money, and a bit more on top must surely open doors to the elite class of forwards.
Hazard, I've already spoke on; Griezmann is a consistent CL performer and he's done well enough for France where logistics (covered in the Pogba threads) and their sheer depth and options are obviously able to curtail his intl. career.
Ample scope for improvement... so what do you think he can ultimately be? Do you think he can tidy up his game to the point he's par with a Drogba or.. I actually don't know who to insert here because his technical level is some way off the likes of Cole, Yorke or others who came in as one thing and came out as something majestically different. Do you think he will become proficient enough at combination football for our forwards following in off him to trust and run past and/or play off of?
About his goals, I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread, but we will have to break teams down and won't be in open matches anywhere near as much as he's thrived in at Everton and WBA. Does he then have the skill and nous to still be as effective?
True. It looked certain Pogba was going to be the first £100m player, and in the end it was a fair bit short of that. I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up being a little lower as well.
£80 million on a foreign player in a foreign league or £90 million on a striker who's proven in the PL with a superior goal scoring record, how dare Man United not get bent over before mighty Madrid so that they could get their new shiny toy.
Stop acting like a child because Madrid didn't get their way.
Oh dear Real Madrid have been stitched up for once and their fans don't like it boo hoo.
Mbappe, a 18 year old kid, who had 1 good season
Auba who can't be flogged to a top club although wanting to leave Dortmund desperately
30 year old Cavani who is far from a top striker
Lewandowski, unwilling to leave Bayern, Bayern unwilling to sell. Would probably cost 150m today.
Nice try though.
You are acting like a kid who can't get another shiny toy.
that's a rather simplistic (although correct) way to see it
Adv with signing Lukaku
a- He has been playing as a regular first team striker for years. Morata has yet to prove himself able to do that
b- He's EPL proven
c- Lukaku had adapted well in England, We're close to Lukaku's agent + he's already have mates at OT. Morata might easily turn into the next ADM especially if Real comes knocking at his door again
d- We screwed Real Madrid (ie our rival in terms of marketing) big time. They end up with less cash to bring in Mbappe and with a disgrunted employee who wants out.
I have the same questions but they are apparently not warranted or nonsensical.
Hasnt his goalscoring record against the top 6 already been debunked though? I think there were some stats posted earlier in the thread but the pace this thing is moving at there is little chance of finding them again
No it hasn't. He did relatively this season vs the top6. A consolation goal vs Spurs and a pen vs Arsenal (in a game he was totally rubbish in). Other the course of the past 3 seasons check that record.
Also when I was mentioning highest level I was talking about our Champions League games vs top sides that we surely hope to reach. So yes he needs to improve his first touch and I hope he does.
Mate even if you'd have sold him to us you'd be pretty happy unless you had something against him coming to United?
Lukaku meets our requirements for what we require at the present. That's about it. We can improve a player. When we bought Yorke all those years ago, you would have laughed. When we bought Cole, you would have laughed. Fools laugh. Mbappe? He's had one season. Auba? No ones gone for him. Cavani? No one wants him. Lewandowski? Settled in Germany. The premiership top clubs - despise selling to each other. The more money we have, the less that will happen. They would rather take less from abroad. So signing Kane would be as difficult as re-signing Ronaldo. We couldn't get Modric. They simply wouldn't sell. That's the nature of our leagues. We don't have buy out clauses. So enjoy your boring league with it's egotical bull....We're just happy to be signing someone who can score goals. If the players wants to, we will improve Lukaku.Ah so you've clearly never seen Lukaku play before then.
45m actually
For once? Third time in the last two years (Pogba and De Gea too).
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