Why do people keep name dropping Beattie with Lukaku? Lukaku's goals at his experience is one of the highest in Premier league history. Beattie scored 81 goals in 284 premier league games. He was pants and scored at half the rate of Lukaku despite Lukaku still being only 24.
Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms
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I love it when know-it-alls are proven wrong.
27M for an 18-year-old (who had a broken foot at the time) was a more than fair price in 2004.
Atleast this time we look to be getting a fairer price.
Not sure he's the right player for us. I'm not convinced about his technical ability or even basic touches but he does score goals so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
So when will he be announced or have they all jumped the gun and were still at the same point we were yesterday?
Everyone seems very confident this is a done deal, brilliant if it is but until he signs I would be on the side of caution of celebrating and sticking 2 fingers up at Chelsea.
He is young enough to still be refining his game plus he'll be surrounded in the team by players with enough technical quality and finesse.
I just hope (if we've actually signed him), he's great and proves the doubters wrong as subra did.
"Subra"? Bloody spell check.
"Subra"? Bloody spell check.
Yeah his record considering he's been in a mostly unsettled Everton side plus spells at Wigan is impressive it has to be said.
He's been in my fantasy team for the last 3 years because he's guaranteed to score at least every other week. That's something United have been missing for years now.
What's the news about Everton have rejected the offer? Hope it is not like those countless scenarios where Lukaku does a u-turn and signs for Chelsea.
Because one season is a way to prove your point. Okay mate. I already knew that Alexis is also a flat track bully.
Kane and Agüero have better records against the big sides overall. I think it might be Damien who posted a graphic of all the top striker' records overall.
Did I not already say that in previous posts?
Now it's one season only ? Alright then.
United City or who ever , its not coming out of our bank accounts, so I dont really give a monkeys.
Sure but when the likes of this guy and Simon Stone are tweeting in this way it would be a major shock now if it falls through.
Dunc didn't even mention his "great link up play" at least read what he says before quoting him
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Alright, lads.
Considering you lot were kind enough to hit 20 titles and take Liverpool off their perch I thought I could repay the favour somewhat and give you an Everton season ticket holders view of Lukaku.
Let me preface this by saying Lukaku divides Everton fans. I’d say it’s around 70% of fans rating him (as I do) and 30% of fans not thinking much of him. Sounds crazy considering he banged in so many goals for us but I’ll do my best to explain why it’s the case.
Romelu Lukaku isn’t that talented a footballer. I know it’s unfair for me to say that as I sit at the desk of my 9-5, but it’s true. I’ve had a season ticket at Goodison Park for the past 20 years of my life and I’ve seen a lot of great footballers – 99% of them playing for opposition sides – and Lukaku isn’t one of them. However, the limited amount of departments he does excel in all pertain to scoring goals and that’s what makes him a top striker. During a game you will see him misplace a 5 yard pass, routinely make a mess of trapping the ball, attempt a dribble that will resemble your fat mate throwing step overs in the pub car park, and then, of course, he’ll get two chances and rattle both of them away without breaking stride.
He’s clinical. All you have to do is look at his goal scoring record which is obscene for a player his age. Whereas you get some players who are instinct finishers, messing up chances when they have an additional couple of seconds to think of what they need to do, or players who need that extra second or two in order to figure out the best option to take, Lukaku finishes in both situations. I’m not saying he scores every single time he’s through on goal as that would be ridiculous, but he is truly clinical.
He’s strong but there are times it will feel like he’s not using his weight and power as he should. For instance, he was absolutely bullied by Dejan Lovren at Anfield this season. This will infuriate you as you watch him. One week you will watch him throw Wes Morgan to the floor before slamming the ball past Kasper Schmeichel then the next week he’ll be repeatedly out muscled by Geoff Cameron. It’s as if the only thing he is consistent in is scoring goals – which isn’t a bad thing to be consistent at.
He also struggles to make space for himself when in possession and his brain isn't quick enough to take part in slick inter-changing passing moves unless he’s on the end of it. Teams who have talented players and are willing to sit back and counter for the entire game can nullify him. You’re not getting a player who will receive the ball in the box and manage to find a yard out of nowhere in order to get a shot off. You’re getting a player who needs other players to find him with a pass good enough to allow him to take a touch and get a shot off otherwise he’s going to be anonymous against any top team.
His off the ball movement is underrated but I’m sure a lot of Everton fans will disagree with me. He’s usually on the move and isn’t easily disheartened. He’ll make the same run again and again even if he isn’t receiving the ball. That kind of attitude goes for his finishing, too. He doesn’t seem to become disheartened if he misses a chance. It’s as if he instantly erases any misses the second they don’t hit the back of the net and goes looking for the next chance.
He’s often branded as lazy by Everton fans. I’m always in two minds as to whether this is unfair or not. Everton fans have historically demanded a lot of running from their players and, regardless of whether you’re scoring 20+ goals a season; you’re going to get abuse if you’re not seen to be pulling your weight. It’s largely subjective. If you don’t mind your striker hanging around upfront, not really pressing or running around much, but bangs in a goal or two every other game, you won’t be fussed. It can be infuriating though when you’re watching the game wanting the players to give more than what they're showing.
He doesn’t perform in the big games. You may have seen this mentioned before on Sky or by some Evertonian you have met but it’s true. I can remember very few games in which he’s came up against top centre halves and looked head and shoulders above them. But, again, it alludes to what I’ve said previously about Lukaku. Unless you give him the right service, and Everton often struggled to do so when facing superior teams, he can be utterly anonymous. Having said that, this season he was completely out of the game at City away until he got his first chance of the match, ran half the pitch and buried it bottom bin. Same goes at White Hart Lane this season. Completely anonymous, Alderweirald slips, Lukaku gets his first chance and slams the ball in the bottom bin as if he had been waiting for that one moment all game. Go look at both of those goals online to see just how clinical he is the second he gets a sniff of goal.
It’ll be interesting to see how he fares at United with most teams sitting back and not giving you much space to play in. After experiencing Ibra’s hold up play you may also start to profusely vomit when you see Lukaku trying to do the same.
I don’t think he’s worth the money you lot are reportedly paying, nowhere near worth it to be honest. A lot of people baulked at the fee you paid for Pogba but he’s a joy to watch. A truly brilliant footballer who is worth the admission alone. Lukaku is far from that type of footballer. He’s a goal scorer that is routinely described using the boxing analogy of being a can crusher, padding his record by putting 2-3 goals past lesser teams when they visit Goodison Park with an inability to step up when it matters.
But.
You’re buying a guaranteed 20-30 goals a season from a 24 year old who is constantly improving. Honestly, it's hilarious when he goes through on goal twice in the space of 10 minutes and it's 2-0. I can't understate how lethal he can be. You could look back on this in 5 years’ time and deem it money well spent if he’s knocked 30 in on the way to multiple cups and titles.
Who knows.
Alright, lads.
Considering you lot were kind enough to hit 20 titles and take Liverpool off their perch I thought I could repay the favour somewhat and give you an Everton season ticket holders view of Lukaku.
Let me preface this by saying Lukaku divides Everton fans. I’d say it’s around 70% of fans rating him (as I do) and 30% of fans not thinking much of him. Sounds crazy considering he banged in so many goals for us but I’ll do my best to explain why it’s the case.
Romelu Lukaku isn’t that talented a footballer. I know it’s unfair for me to say that as I sit at the desk of my 9-5, but it’s true. I’ve had a season ticket at Goodison Park for the past 20 years of my life and I’ve seen a lot of great footballers – 99% of them playing for opposition sides – and Lukaku isn’t one of them. However, the limited amount of departments he does excel in all pertain to scoring goals and that’s what makes him a top striker. During a game you will see him misplace a 5 yard pass, routinely make a mess of trapping the ball, attempt a dribble that will resemble your fat mate throwing step overs in the pub car park, and then, of course, he’ll get two chances and rattle both of them away without breaking stride.
He’s clinical. All you have to do is look at his goal scoring record which is obscene for a player his age. Whereas you get some players who are instinct finishers, messing up chances when they have an additional couple of seconds to think of what they need to do, or players who need that extra second or two in order to figure out the best option to take, Lukaku finishes in both situations. I’m not saying he scores every single time he’s through on goal as that would be ridiculous, but he is truly clinical.
He’s strong but there are times it will feel like he’s not using his weight and power as he should. For instance, he was absolutely bullied by Dejan Lovren at Anfield this season. This will infuriate you as you watch him. One week you will watch him throw Wes Morgan to the floor before slamming the ball past Kasper Schmeichel then the next week he’ll be repeatedly out muscled by Geoff Cameron. It’s as if the only thing he is consistent in is scoring goals – which isn’t a bad thing to be consistent at.
He also struggles to make space for himself when in possession and his brain isn't quick enough to take part in slick inter-changing passing moves unless he’s on the end of it. Teams who have talented players and are willing to sit back and counter for the entire game can nullify him. You’re not getting a player who will receive the ball in the box and manage to find a yard out of nowhere in order to get a shot off. You’re getting a player who needs other players to find him with a pass good enough to allow him to take a touch and get a shot off otherwise he’s going to be anonymous against any top team.
His off the ball movement is underrated but I’m sure a lot of Everton fans will disagree with me. He’s usually on the move and isn’t easily disheartened. He’ll make the same run again and again even if he isn’t receiving the ball. That kind of attitude goes for his finishing, too. He doesn’t seem to become disheartened if he misses a chance. It’s as if he instantly erases any misses the second they don’t hit the back of the net and goes looking for the next chance.
He’s often branded as lazy by Everton fans. I’m always in two minds as to whether this is unfair or not. Everton fans have historically demanded a lot of running from their players and, regardless of whether you’re scoring 20+ goals a season; you’re going to get abuse if you’re not seen to be pulling your weight. It’s largely subjective. If you don’t mind your striker hanging around upfront, not really pressing or running around much, but bangs in a goal or two every other game, you won’t be fussed. It can be infuriating though when you’re watching the game wanting the players to give more than what they're showing.
He doesn’t perform in the big games. You may have seen this mentioned before on Sky or by some Evertonian you have met but it’s true. I can remember very few games in which he’s came up against top centre halves and looked head and shoulders above them. But, again, it alludes to what I’ve said previously about Lukaku. Unless you give him the right service, and Everton often struggled to do so when facing superior teams, he can be utterly anonymous. Having said that, this season he was completely out of the game at City away until he got his first chance of the match, ran half the pitch and buried it bottom bin. Same goes at White Hart Lane this season. Completely anonymous, Alderweirald slips, Lukaku gets his first chance and slams the ball in the bottom bin as if he had been waiting for that one moment all game. Go look at both of those goals online to see just how clinical he is the second he gets a sniff of goal.
It’ll be interesting to see how he fares at United with most teams sitting back and not giving you much space to play in. After experiencing Ibra’s hold up play you may also start to profusely vomit when you see Lukaku trying to do the same.
I don’t think he’s worth the money you lot are reportedly paying, nowhere near worth it to be honest. A lot of people baulked at the fee you paid for Pogba but he’s a joy to watch. A truly brilliant footballer who is worth the admission alone. Lukaku is far from that type of footballer. He’s a goal scorer that is routinely described using the boxing analogy of being a can crusher, padding his record by putting 2-3 goals past lesser teams when they visit Goodison Park with an inability to step up when it matters.
But.
You’re buying a guaranteed 20-30 goals a season from a 24 year old who is constantly improving. Honestly, it's hilarious when he goes through on goal twice in the space of 10 minutes and it's 2-0. I can't understate how lethal he can be. You could look back on this in 5 years’ time and deem it money well spent if he’s knocked 30 in on the way to multiple cups and titles.
Who knows.
Pogba's gonna put some nice floated balls in for him.
Absolutely gutted that someone has been able to put together a 2 minute YouTube compilation of Lukaku cockups spanning many years of football. He must be absolutely rubbish.
Its like we are getting a fresh refill after dropping off the empties.
We have a good relationship with Everton. We give them our squad players, they give us their star players.
Moyes and Fellaini we were robbed, but you cant always win i guess.
Moyes and Fellaini we were robbed, but you cant always win i guess.
If we have snapped Lukaku from Chelsea can guarantee Conte goes after Morata after all he worked with him at Juventus.
Great signing if true.
I get it, mate. You and others are defending him now that it looks like we're signing him. But the fact remains that this is a risky transfer.
His questionable touch has been shown in this thread already and he does like to put relegation fodder to the sword. But in the long term, when we want to compete at CL level again, it will be a concern. Not to mention semi-finals and cup finals against the big teams in the domestic cups.
If Blind can easily nullify him with his anticipation, you best believe that elite defenders will be able to as well.
Good luck for them paying the 90m Madrid are asking for then.
I'm starting to believe Morata isn't leaving this summer.
I always found that phrase very odd. He could very well get a lot worse. He could lose focus, sustain a terrible injury or just stagnate. So many initially promising players had a downward turn in their careers. So, native speakers, why does this phrase exist when it clearly makes no sense?
Now that gives us goals a plenty!!
he didn't. Conte left Juventus that summer when they signed Morata.
He didn't work with him at Juventus.
all the stories are rehashes of each other.
Kane 16/17 - scored 3 goals against top 6 sides - 1 against United, 2 against Arsenal.
Lukaku 16/17 - scored 4 goals against top 6 sides - 2 against Man City, 1 against Spurs, 1 against Arsenal.
Dunc didn't even mention his "great link up play" at least read what he says before quoting him
The link up play comes from my own perception - every time I've seen him he's able to hold up the ball, and allow his teammates to come into play (he did this against us a fair number of times) I'm not saying he's Suarez-esque in this regard, but he's certainly capable to offer more than what we were able to do with Rooney, Martial & Rashford in recent years.
I'm not sure if @BigDunc9 would agree or not.
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Obligatory video to illustrate my point
In fairness Lukaku had more games to play against the top 6, seeing as Everton aren't top 6.
yes, I was agreeing with you on that notion.
£80 million... ridiculous money when you think about it Morata might be frustrated about us dropping interest but he only has Madrid to blame for that.
Cuz dude you gotta
How did I defend him ?! I said earlier here that I'm not 100% convinced of him at some points, but taking how many goals he scored against bottom half isn't something to downplay a striker, you can downplay him for his build up or first touch or being limited technically, sure, but scoring against bottom half ? Any striker will have his most goals each season scored against bottom half, in any league in the world. I proved this to you.
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