stevoc
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So is this thread still getting spammed with people bitching and moaning about other people criticizing Lukaku?
Is the lukaku hatred because hes a ex-utd player? There are some myopic views on this thread. Some of the comments have been; Inter not being a big club. Zlatan wasnt rated in his younger years. Lukaku not good enough for the elite clubs. Myopic british views of players and teams based abroad.
Regardless of his time at Utd, hes a top striker, who puts the ball in the net. Goals win you games. He may not be everyones cup of tea but he gets goals. Goals against any opposition is important. He works on his game and often stays behind after training to do more work. Did that at Utd. He went to italy because he wanted to test himself in a different league and improve. Italy is still the toughest league to score in due to the defensive nature of the football and the league.
Take the ten of so biggest teams in europe: juventus, AC, Inter, Barca, Real, Atletico, PSG, Bayern, Man Utd, City, Liverpool, Chelsea. The only team you couldnt see lukaku playing for and starting for would be Barcelona and Real Madrid. Thats more to do with the type of football they play.
Would be interested to see what belgium and inter fans not on here think of him. Theres clearly a anti-lukaku agenda on here. Which is a shame as it would be nice to be able to dicuss him without prejudice and bias.
You've just spun the argument yourself! The point made was that for us (the collective us referring to United) he was a flat-track bully. How good a player does for another club in an entirely different context is arbitrary when debating a player's effectiveness for United. 23 games is a perfectly legitimate sample size to assess his performances. His renaissance in Italy doesn't steer away from the fact that for United he didn't cut the mustard. He's a good player that can score goals but he wasn't able to do it efficiently and consistently well enough for us. It really is as simple as that.
So is this thread still getting spammed with people bitching and moaning about other people criticizing Lukaku?
It's not healthy to live your life through another person. I can't speak for anyone else but personally I just think he is incredibly sensitive to criticism, which makes it more hilarious to watch him fail than succeed. The thing is though, most people predicted he would do well over there, so it's odd that there are constantly people gloating in this thread as if it's a surprise.I wish Lukaku all the best and really enjoy watching him prove his haters wrong time and time again.
The entire thread reads like an attempt to rationalise/validate an irrational hatred by masking it in genuine ‘facts’
Imagine in this entire conversation, the people defending Lukaku’s achievements being dismissed as the ‘spammers’!
Martial isnt having a good goal scoring season but the way he holds the ball up is essential in bringing Bruno further up the pitch and into goal scoring positions and his quick feet and interplay with Rashford and Shaw opens up the left side for us.Lukaku is clearly a top striker who has scored consistently and against anyone despite what people try to say.
Ole made a huge mistake in trusting Martial over him i cannot believe anyone can still dispute that.
By all means if Ole did not want him then let him go but he should have replaced him with a proper number nine which Martial will never be and that has proven to be the case we would be so much better off with Lukaku leading our line than Martial thats for sure
I wish Lukaku all the best and really enjoy watching him prove his haters wrong time and time again.
Wasn't @Rozay the guy who bowled into this thread and tried to claim people who didn't rate Lukaku as racists?
Tbf to Lukaku, I've watched him a handful of times this season and on a couple of occasions he actually played very well, even his first touch and link up play - he's always capable of a complete shank but he does look much better than he ever looked for us, where he was absolutely awful for the most part.
Contradicting posts.
So Lukaku defenders are spammers and people criticizing Lukaku are haters.
I’ll step out and leave you all with your pitchforks. You can have one big ‘we all hate Lukaku’ Internet convention, good luck to you all.
No, but you're one of those who lied about it back then and now you're doing it again.
Imagine in this entire conversation, the people defending Lukaku’s achievements being dismissed as the ‘spammers’!
That’s a pretty nasty insult to Ronny Johnsen but yeah, imagine pining after Lukaku?172 pages and near 7000 posts for a player that left us? Oh my.
When will Djemba Djemba get this kind of attention? Or Ronny Johnsen?
Lukaku is clearly a top striker who has scored consistently and against anyone despite what people try to say.
Ole made a huge mistake in trusting Martial over him i cannot believe anyone can still dispute that.
By all means if Ole did not want him then let him go but he should have replaced him with a proper number nine which Martial will never be and that has proven to be the case we would be so much better off with Lukaku leading our line than Martial thats for sure
I wish Lukaku all the best and really enjoy watching him prove his haters wrong time and time again.
Okay mate.
I’ll step out and leave you all with your pitchforks. You can have one big ‘we all hate Lukaku’ Internet convention, good luck to you all.
172 pages and near 7000 posts for a player that left us? Oh my.
When will Djemba Djemba get this kind of attention? Or Ronny Johnsen?
He also didn't replace him with Martial. The idea was to play a more fluid front three with Rashford also chipping in more goals, as well as bringing up a prodigious talent in Greenwood. Cavani was later brought in to add experience and squad depth.Well he did try to sign Haaland last January.
Haha. Don't get me wrong. Ronny Johnsen was excellent and should have more attention and credit.That’s a pretty nasty insult to Ronny Johnsen but yeah, imagine pining after Lukaku?
Don't get me wrong. Johnsen was excellent according to me.Probably would have petered out long ago if there weren't so many popping in all the the time to fight the good fight for Rom.
Also Ronny Johnsen was actually a very good player for United, doesn't belong in a comparison with Djemba x2.
Yes he was. He claimed that people wouldn't call him a donkey if he was white, when it's obvious that everyone calls him a donkey because he has a terrible first touch.
That's an argument borne out of recency bias and hindsight. I highly doubt you were saying that at the end of last season when he finished as our top scorer and his all round play helped to bring out the best of Rashford and Greenwood, and even at the time that Lukaku and Ole's time overlapped, you could see we played our best football with him not being the CF. Martial was given the chance to stake his claim once Lukaku left, and he eventually took it last season.Lukaku is clearly a top striker who has scored consistently and against anyone despite what people try to say.
Ole made a huge mistake in trusting Martial over him i cannot believe anyone can still dispute that.
By all means if Ole did not want him then let him go but he should have replaced him with a proper number nine which Martial will never be and that has proven to be the case we would be so much better off with Lukaku leading our line than Martial thats for sure
I wish Lukaku all the best and really enjoy watching him prove his haters wrong time and time again.
He also didn't replace him with Martial. The idea was to play a more fluid front three with Rashford also chipping in more goals, as well as bringing up a prodigious talent in Greenwood. Cavani was later brought in to add experience and squad depth.
He said that he believes that overall Lukaku would have been spoken of differently if he were white.
So, he did put the underlying thought that there are some racist issues in overall thinking when it comes to Lukaku. Like he does with Pogba. How nice of him.
YepYes, or how maybe there is something to how Sterling or Greenwood gets portrayed in the media compared to white players. That doesn't mean that you can't criticize Sterling or Greenwood without being racist, no functioning person would interpret it that way. Liars would pretend to.
I totally agree, I meant the recent serie A top scorer starsIf he was playing in Serie A from 90's to mid 00's, he'd have been chased out by now. Not even on the same page to many of the greats on the Serie A charts and thats when Defenders in that league were the best in the world.
Yes, or how maybe there is something to how Sterling or Greenwood gets portrayed in the media compared to white players. That doesn't mean that you can't criticize Sterling or Greenwood without being racist, no functioning person would interpret it that way. Liars would pretend to.
Good on you. How can someone so vehemently want to defend lukaku, he was shit for us and a good laugh now when he fecks it as he thinks he’s so good. That’s all there is to it for meOkay mate.
I’ll step out and leave you all with your pitchforks. You can have one big ‘we all hate Lukaku’ Internet convention, good luck to you all.
Very good post. Echoing my sentiment exactly. It’s a very blunt way to end the conversation, who wants to risk being painted as a racist, just to share their opinion on Lukaku? I was writing a response, but you covered it in your first paragraph.My general feeling is that there are no racist issues with pretty much any person when it comes to Lukaku. So, when someone goes with that route it is actually offensive.
It has everything to do with the way he left the club, missed the preseason, was fully out of shape and then had the cheek to point the blame in other direction once he was no more here even saying he wanted to leave after first few days while putting £250,000 in his pocket every week. The criticism about the lack of technical ability and his playing style was always there.
Now, pretty much any logically thinking person would connect those dots as the crux of the problem in overall feelings towards Lukuku and not the one he went after. Rooney was under the barrage of personal abuse after the way he went with his contract renewal. In fact, he was physically threaten. It also hadn't anything to do with his skin color like it's not the case here. Anyway, free speach and all that, so he is free to go after any train of thought he likes to, but it doesn't make it any less bs in my opinion.
Not sure what Sterling and Greenwood media portrait have to do with any of the above tbh.
Not sure what Sterling and Greenwood media portrait have to do with any of the above tbh.
Well said, lukaku acted the dick without performances or the skill to back it upMy general feeling is that there are no racist issues with pretty much any person when it comes to Lukaku. So, when someone goes with that route it is actually offensive.
It has everything to do with the way he left the club, missed the preseason, was fully out of shape and then had the cheek to point the blame in other direction once he was no more here even saying he wanted to leave after first few days while putting £250,000 in his pocket every week. The criticism about the lack of technical ability and his playing style was always there.
Now, pretty much any logically thinking person would connect those dots as the crux of the problem in overall feelings towards Lukuku and not the one he went after. Rooney was under the barrage of personal abuse after the way he went with his contract renewal. In fact, he was physically threatened. It also hadn't anything to do with his skin color like it's not the case here. Anyway, free speach and all that, so he is free to go after any train of thought he likes to, but it doesn't make it any less bs in my opinion.
Not sure what Sterling and Greenwood media portrait have to do with any of the above tbh.