Reading the last few pages you'd think he wasn't the starting striker performing very well for a team challenging for the title in a premier European league.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Romelu Lukaku | Napoli watch
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A beautiful rebuttal. Nicely played.
Very enjoyable read that, thanks for sharing. Nice to be vindicated.
It would be one, if the same didn't apply to our own Martial and Rashford. I could easily paint the same picture. But regarding Lukaku, the term "rent free" comes to mind.
It's almost as shocking as people having discussions about Mourinho in the Mourinho thread too
People have problem with posters talking about Lukaku in Lukaku thread. Shocking.
I'm actually starting to wonder where players and managers actually are allowed to be discussed?
Goalposts, moved.
It's almost as shocking as people having discussions about Mourinho in the Mourinho thread too
I'm actually starting to wonder where players and managers actually are allowed to be discussed?
Yeah, maybe we have to post about Lukaku in Martial thread, shitting on how poor Martial is and how great Lukaku is.
If you were offered Lukaku for 30M now, would you take him? No resale allowed.
I certainly wouldn't.
I certainly wouldn't.
As an Everton fan Lukaku is a bit of an enigma in that his goal scoring stats are impressive and difficult to argue against. Basically 1 in 2 in club football and 2 in 3 in international football.
However you need to build your entire team around him and his play. He doesnt or cant turn up in big games and is easily countered by the good teams. I knew it would go the way it did at Man Utd. The big teams cant build their team around one lumbering player. It doesnt work.
He's a mouth too. Every single international break he talked about leaving and moving on to bigger clubs. He still hasnt won a bean. Highest honour is still the Belgian league when he was 17.
Still has a hell of a shot and finish on him.
However you need to build your entire team around him and his play. He doesnt or cant turn up in big games and is easily countered by the good teams. I knew it would go the way it did at Man Utd. The big teams cant build their team around one lumbering player. It doesnt work.
He's a mouth too. Every single international break he talked about leaving and moving on to bigger clubs. He still hasnt won a bean. Highest honour is still the Belgian league when he was 17.
Still has a hell of a shot and finish on him.
Right, let's compare the last couple of pages of the Rashford thread then;
That little flick he did over TAA after he managed to control the flight of a difficult ball
You couldn't paint that picture of Lukaku unless it was a surreal piece
No one has ever compared Lukaku's passing to De Bruyne, his dribbling to Ronaldo, saying he was a big game player or mentioned an amazing first touch - much less after playing the reigning champions in a big game. I'm sure you can find some negative posts in the last few weeks but Rashford has been playing out of position, is only 23 and is playing for Man Utd in the PL. Lukaku is in his prime, playing in a weaker Serie A and even Inter fans don't think he's good enough and are considering selling him.As far as Martial goes, yes you could find similar posts and quite rightly, he's been hugely disappointing this season. So far, his season is analogous to Lukaku's second season with us and unless he has a dramatic turnaround, he should be relegated to a squad role or sold just like Lukaku was. That said, he's still a better fit for us, has shown a higher level than Lukaku has ever shown and despite his dreadful form, we still find ourselves top of the league with him as our primary striker.
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Mate, you're brutal. Remind me not to argue with you, ever.
Right, let's compare the last couple of pages of the Rashford thread then;
You couldn't paint that picture of Lukaku unless it was a surreal piece
As far as Martial goes, yes you could find similar posts and quite rightly, he's been hugely disappointing this season. So far, his season is analogous to Lukaku's second season with us and unless he has a dramatic turnaround, he should be relegated to a squad role or sold just like Lukaku was. That said, he's still a better fit for us, has shown a higher level than Lukaku has ever shown and despite his dreadful form, we still find ourselves top of the league with him as our primary striker.
Several points to make here
1. Well done cherry picking, I can find several posts as well especially in the lead up to yesterday's game that paints Rashford as someone our club would be best moving on from
2. My overall point isn't to pit our current strikers against Lukaku, he's moved on. My overall point (at least in my post that you hopped on) is that very few rational people would argue that the picture painted of Lukaku in the last few pages (one post says he's not a top 20 striker in Europe right now) is a true reflection of his abilities and form. Ditto for those posts you 'curated' from an Inter forum. But there's a reason he gets disproportionate amount of attention compared to some of our other ex players (some on the same team as him).
3. I recommend @Counterfactual get some kneepads.
If we're talking about traditional strikers, I agree Lukaku is in the top 20, possibly pushing top 10, but these days there are very few quality traditional strikers around and teams play with more fluid frontlines. If we're talking about attackers who have played as a false 9 as well, then I think it's very rational to put him outside the top 20. Ultimately, your point was we are biased, but the same criticisms of Lukaku follow him no matter who he plays for, even when he is 'performing well in title challenging team in a top European league'. At some point, perhaps you should question your own rationale.
Also, what is the reason he gets disproportionate amount of attention in your eyes?
I admit there is room to have difference of opinion without going to the extreme. I'm not arguing he's world class, that would be ludicrous.
Obviously his form and the way he left United left a bitter taste in the mouth of many fans. I wished him the best and am rooting for the players we have.
That's reasonable. I think with Lukaku, his strengths and weaknesses are so pronounced and lopsided that it's easy for people to overrate and (slightly) underrate him depending on what they value in a player. This, coupled with his inflated ego, makes him such a divisive figure to discuss.
no chance. Even if we erased his attitude, and petulance. He wouldn’t get into the first 11. Can’t even see him being an effective sub.
Ibra has him rattled
Big fight with Ibrahimovic
Handbags really. Ibra clearly enjoying winding him up.
Zlatan
Didn’t they were friends?
WTF happened? They were team mates once
Proper ‘ard here.
If they are free to go at it, Zlatan would kick his head in. Dude actually knows martial arts.
If they are free to go at it, Zlatan would kick his head in. Dude actually knows martial arts.
I suppose a racial insult by Ibrahimovic
Donkey trying to take on a thoroughbred.
Any evidence for this?
Around 13s in the vid above it looks like Ibra said something about his mother
For that reaction something about lukaku’s family or racial stuff
You can literally hear him say “so you want to speak about my mother?”
Bit poor from ibra but still funny to watch
I wouldn't just accuse Zlatan of racism unless you have a source. Perhaps it could have been about Lukaku's mum
Still shit but not as bad as racism
Lukaku should've been sent off. Aggressive and pushing alot of players around. Lucky to stay on.
Hope Ibra gets another one and celebrates in his face
Hope Ibra gets another one and celebrates in his face
I'm so happy for Raiola
not seen him move that much in years
did Zlatan tell him Greggs was going out of business? Poundland striker.