Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea

I’ve addressed this in other posts. My post does make it seem like I’m favouring the league position which isn’t true. Chelsea winning the champions league is a big achievement, however I still fundamentally think the rest of Europe is pretty weak right now and Chelsea rode their luck. Sure the statistics may look positive but I think ultimately Tuchel has just made Chelsea a very negative team who sit behind the ball and aim to control. Seems to have worked so far but I think they will be found wanting for lack of real quality in the league on a consistent basis.
I will say scraping 1-0 wins did make it look that way for people not watching many of the games. We did create a lot of chances that didnt get in the net. Also Werner missed way too many goals that were total sitters. Lukaku hopefully converts more chances. We will see if the price for Lukaku pays dividends. It always looks good in the transfer window, the real test is to come.
 
An awful lot of arrogance emanating from the resident Chelsea fans.

Oppos always appear on here when they've got something to gloat about and disappear when they don't. It's always been like this.

Their own forums are generally garbage on the whole.
 
People always refer to the winners of the CL. They never refer to who finished 2nd in a league. People bring up Liverpool did not win the league for 30 years, nobody mentions the times they finished 2nd in those 30 years. I do understand United fans trying to play down teams winning major trophiee because of the long drought of their club not winning anything. It does look odd. If your team had won the Europa League final, I guarantee you that your fan base would have made a huge deal about it. Winning the Champions League is a big deal.

You're really trying hard to push the jealous angle. We've had to watch Liverpool win their 6th CL recently - you don't find anyone on the caf trying to downplay it because they clearly were one of the top teams in Europe over the space of two years and had two 90+ point league campaigns.

The fact of the matter is you were barely the 4th best team in England last year, and you will go down as one of the least distinguished CL winners in the last 20 years. I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that, and that you're just trolling though.
 
You're really trying hard to push the jealous angle. We've had to watch Liverpool win their 6th CL recently - you don't find anyone on the caf trying to downplay it because they clearly were one of the top teams in Europe over the space of two years and had two 90+ point league campaigns.

The fact of the matter is you were barely the 4th best team in England last year, and you will go down as one of the least distinguished CL winners in the last 20 years. I'm sure you're smart enough to understand that, and that you're just trolling though.

I absolutely do not believe that. The amount of clean sheets in last year’s CL is a record. It seems the only people downplaying our Championship are rival fans. It has gone down as a great CL win. Beating City in the final and beating City three times made sure of that.
 
People always refer to the winners of the CL. They never refer to who finished 2nd in a league. People bring up Liverpool did not win the league for 30 years, nobody mentions the times they finished 2nd in those 30 years. I do understand United fans trying to play down teams winning major trophiee because of the long drought of their club not winning anything. It does look odd. If your team had won the Europa League final, I guarantee you that your fan base would have made a huge deal about it. Winning the Champions League is a big deal.
Why the preaching? We were cheering you on.
 
When you drew a much below par Atletico and Real. They are miles away from the level of yesteryear. Anyway you won it so doubt you care!
If that was the case I wouldn't care, it was true of 2012 and if anything that made it better.

This time round however unless you're going to be picky and mention that Mahrez looping half shot in injury time we navigated the entire tournament without any real moments to potential jeopardy, a last minute consolation by Porto is what stopped the supposedly average Mendy breaking the clean sheet record. That would have been impressive even if we had the 'easiest' run of all time.
 
Why the preaching? We were cheering you on.

I am just responding to those that think they should downplay our CL win. I am more the person that is about enjoying your club. If you had a great year, enjoy it.
 
Oppos always appear on here when they've got something to gloat about and disappear when they don't. It's always been like this.

Their own forums are generally garbage on the whole.
Schools are closed so kids are bored. They will go back to their shed in September.
 
That sentence has to be one of the most ill judged I've read in quite some time.
Time will tell. If Lukaku does join Chelsea, we will be able to see whether he was worth 100mil price tag, very quickly
 
I think Lukaku will struggle to score over 20 Premier League goals this season. I also doubt if he'll be first choice penalty taker at Chelsea which will further hinder his final goals tally come the end of the season. There's far too many fickle Chelsea fans around on social media spouting nonsense about the second coming of Lukaku, more than likely the very same one's who have mocked him for years since he first left Chelsea.
 


But seriously, he's a good striker - think he'll do well at Chelsea.
 
I think Lukaku will be a great signing for them. Definitely a hard pass for me but he will bang them in and they won the Champions League with a far inferior and more erratic striker, so they'll obviously be excited.

Also don't see much gloating from Chelsea fans? The whole thread has been about poking fun at Chelsea for buying an actually pretty competent striker, and they have every right to defend the purchase and give as their taking. I mean, they just won the Champions League ffs. What are they gonna say? Ah yes, Lukaku is shit were gonna be worse with him?
 
If that was the case I wouldn't care, it was true of 2012 and if anything that made it better.

This time round however unless you're going to be picky and mention that Mahrez looping half shot in injury time we navigated the entire tournament without any real moments to potential jeopardy, a last minute consolation by Porto is what stopped the supposedly average Mendy breaking the clean sheet record. That would have been impressive even if we had the 'easiest' run of all time.
Yeh fair enough. I’m not really one to celebrate negative tactics to be honest. Give me a team who wins 5-3 every week over a 1-0. I don’t think you guys have been particularly entertaining under Tuchel so far. Maybe a striker will change that.
 
He'll do well until the press and some of the fans inevitably get on his back again.

Currently they're relying on the finishing ability of Timo Werner so hard to see how Lukaku wont improve that even if just by the fact there's more of him for the ball to accidentally rebound in off.
 
The same story at the beginning of every season.

And then when the league progresses, United fans finally realise they are not in the class of Chelsea and need to strength.
You haven’t seriously just posted this after Chelsea failed to even threaten Utd in the league last season?
 
I absolutely do not believe that. The amount of clean sheets in last year’s CL is a record. It seems the only people downplaying our Championship are rival fans. It has gone down as a great CL win. Beating City in the final and beating City three times made sure of that.
According to …?
 
Yeh fair enough. I’m not really one to celebrate negative tactics to be honest. Give me a team who wins 5-3 every week over a 1-0. I don’t think you guys have been particularly entertaining under Tuchel so far. Maybe a striker will change that.
If you watched our games regularly it's never a question. We did created enough chances to win comfortably 2-0 3-0 in most games especially in champions league.

Even against city in final the one team proud themselves defensively great last season.If you didn't believe just look at the stats about xg differences in those games.

You can argue still we won only one goal margin but pep,Zidane,simeone,klopp said on the record how good we were against them.
 
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Lukaku has to be the crappest "top" player in history.

It's amazing that someone who can't do some of the basics has made it so high.
However, we all know he'll storm 20 league goals against the fodder, and look absolutely clueless in the big games.
 
I live in Cobham so If I see him around after training i'll gladly do my bit and offer him a nice slice of cake :lol:
 
He’ll play the best football and most productive football of his career there.

The people who made a hobby of mocking him in his thread will implode.
 
Depressing but true.
As much as we as United fans don’t like to admit it, he’s gone from strength to strength since leaving and has even matured a bit as a man; think he’ll put as many noses out of joint as he can as a player with a point to prove off the back of how he left England. Besides that, Tuchel is going to be working out how to get the best out of Lukaku rather than him having to get with the program already in place.

Everything looks to be in place for a fantastic title race this season with the three most likely to contend having added some serious upgrades to what they had last season. I just hope he [Lukaku] doesn’t get the last laugh in our games against them!
 
I think it's about Kane.
Ah, OK. I know I have a very unpopular opinion about Kane. He is clearly significantly more productive than Lukaku will ever be, but having watched Kane for so many years, I just cannot put him next to world-class strikers. There's something horribly missing in him - as in first 5 games of Euros, where he was useless and England had to be rescued by others.

You compare him to the world class strikers, like our own Cavani, even at his old age, and it just feels the fire is missing in Kane. I cannot see him leading any team to winning a UCL, for instance.
 
I’ve just been listening to people on talksport say that it’s between City and Chelsea for the league. Really???
so Chelsea brought Werner in last season at a high cost, he scored 34 goals the season before last in Germany including 4 in the champions league and had a record of 91 in just over 200 games, that’s prolific.

Last season Chelsea scraped 4th l, we out scored them by 15 goals and only Arsenal and Villa scored less in the top 10.
With 58 league goals that tells most of us that it’s not just the striker, it’s the style of play and defensive tactics. Man Utd are going to score more this year, we all feel it, not just because of Sancho, Bruno will rise to the crowd, Cavani will get more starts, Greenwood I think will score close to 20 he’s just getting better and better, Rashford will fly after his surgery, Pogba needs to impress for his dream move. Chelsea did have the second best defence conceding 34, the question is does Varane with Maguire who’s not just come off an arrest in Greece mean we can concede 8 less and be as good in defence as Chelsea.
Personally I think it does. Does Lukaku mean that Chelsea will score 15 more goals? I don’t think it matters as we’ll outscore them anyway.
 
He’ll play the best football and most productive football of his career there.

The people who made a hobby of mocking him in his thread will implode.

He'll score his usual 20 or so league games yes, and smash the smaller teams.
But has his "brick wall" ball control changed? Will he score in the big games? Jury is out.
 
Oh I didn't say he wouldn't help them, he provides a reliable goal outlet especially against smaller sides and that's something that Chelsea simply didn't have last year. I'm just of the opinion that he doesn't provide enough in open play alongside his goalscoring troubles against better sides to be rated as one of the top strikers in the world, which is what Chelsea are paying for.

I believe he did well against the top teams in Serie A these last 2 seasons, but I agree mainly I think he's usefulness will come against the mid table sides, however Chelsea are champions of Europe, without him, so they can cope if he doesn't perform, but I'll wait on that as they have a lot more attacking quality around him plus a coach like Tuchel he may deliver.
 
I’ve just been listening to people on talksport say that it’s between City and Chelsea for the league. Really???
so Chelsea brought Werner in last season at a high cost, he scored 34 goals the season before last in Germany including 4 in the champions league and had a record of 91 in just over 200 games, that’s prolific.

Last season Chelsea scraped 4th l, we out scored them by 15 goals and only Arsenal and Villa scored less in the top 10.
With 58 league goals that tells most of us that it’s not just the striker, it’s the style of play and defensive tactics. Man Utd are going to score more this year, we all feel it, not just because of Sancho, Bruno will rise to the crowd, Cavani will get more starts, Greenwood I think will score close to 20 he’s just getting better and better, Rashford will fly after his surgery, Pogba needs to impress for his dream move. Chelsea did have the second best defence conceding 34, the question is does Varane with Maguire who’s not just come off an arrest in Greece mean we can concede 8 less and be as good in defence as Chelsea.
Personally I think it does. Does Lukaku mean that Chelsea will score 15 more goals? I don’t think it matters as we’ll outscore them anyway.
9 of them came from Southampton played almost from the start 1 man down then two. I will not boasting those as achievement if I am a man utd fan. Meaning literally 6 goals you scored more. That's not bigger achievement in my opinion.
 
I believe he did well against the top teams in Serie A these last 2 seasons, but I agree mainly I think he's usefulness will come against the mid table sides, however Chelsea are champions of Europe, without him, so they can cope if he doesn't perform, but I'll wait on that as they have a lot more attacking quality around him plus a coach like Tuchel he may deliver.

58 goals, Leeds, West Ham, Tottenham, Leceister, Liverpool, Us and City outscored them.
Tuchel had 19 league games and his team won 11 scoring 25 goals, conceding 13 losing 3 and drawing 5. Hardly a scary record but I understand that he needs time. 19 is exactly half a season though.
 
Can't believe someone is mad enough to pay £100m+ for Lukaku, his touch hasn't improved and he has only done well in Serie A due to the quality level these days. Inter have robbed Chelsea blind.
 
Can't believe someone is mad enough to pay £100m+ for Lukaku, his touch hasn't improved and he has only done well in Serie A due to the quality level these days. Inter have robbed Chelsea blind.
Bloody hell, this obsession with his touch is unbelievable.
He knows where the goal is and does what striker must do; score goals. Excellent striker who will bang goal for Chelsea this year.
 
One of the top strikers in world football and someone who scored over 300 career goals by the age of 28…

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