Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea

Dancfc said:
I'd rather go with Kai and build around the sides like Liverpool did with Firmino. Maybe get an Giroud type to mix things up a bit when nessesesery.

Just looking at the top line and assuming it would fall into place is what got us stuck with Lukaku in the first place.
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That's your original mistake, letting him leave.:nono:
 
::sonny:: said:
Situation today:

> Chelsea wants 100 million

> Inter offer 0 million

> Lukaku reached an agreement with Inter accepting a wage cut >50%

> Lukaku said he will make the deal with Chelsea, no direct contacts between Chelsea and Inter

> It’s all on Lukaku, he will deal with Chelsea with a transfer request asking to be loaned out for free, I think he will refuse to play and train with Chelsea again

Really absurd situation

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Chelsea won't have paid the whole transfer fee yet so Inter can surely just give them back what they've paid with a sweetener on top?
 
crossy1686 said:
Chelsea won't have paid the whole transfer fee yet so Inter can surely just give them back what they've paid with a sweetener on top?
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Inter really have no money or chances to reset the former deal

They are looking for to sell 1 of their “big” players (bastioni or lautaro)

Bastioni I think the most likely and then signing Bremer from Torino + Dybala and Lukaku both for free
 
Powderfinger said:
It all depends on the alternatives, right?

I think we can all agree that Chelsea would prefer to sell Lukaku for a decent fee, even taking a huge loss if necessary, if they can. But what if there are no buyers? Very few clubs have any money right now and even fewer both have money and a wage structure he could fit into.

Let’s say the only choices are (1) sell for a tiny fee like 15-20m (2) straight loan to Inter or (3) keep him in the squad. At that point straight loan becomes a possibility IMO. Tuchel seems to want him out.
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Chelsea would (and should) 100% rather keep him and try to make it work than give him away for free or peanuts. The only unknown here is Lukaku. If he creates a problem within the club, then yeah Chelsea would have to deal with that and it puts the club in a tough position but as long as he's willing to be a pro and show up for training, be a harmonious member of the squad etc keeping him will always be the preferred option than giving him to Inter for free.
 
It is great that he publicly lowered his wage by half. There could be teams that will pay to acquire him at that wage.
 
Zaphod2319 said:
It is great that he publicly lowered his wage by half. There could be teams that will pay to acquire him at that wage.
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Are there teams that will want to pay a significant fee for him? What sort of fee are Chelsea even expecting?
 
Zaphod2319 said:
It is great that he publicly lowered his wage by half. There could be teams that will pay to acquire him at that wage.
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No. He hasn’t done it publicly and he is only lowering them to go back to Inter. Not West Ham or Newcastle.
 
WeePat said:
Chelsea would (and should) 100% rather keep him and try to make it work than give him away for free or peanuts. The only unknown here is Lukaku. If he creates a problem within the club, then yeah Chelsea would have to deal with that and it puts the club in a tough position but as long as he's willing to be a pro and show up for training, be a harmonious member of the squad etc keeping him will always be the preferred option than giving him to Inter for free.
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Is this the same Lukaku we're talking about?
 
Pintu said:
No. He hasn’t done it publicly and he is only lowering them to go back to Inter. Not West Ham or Newcastle.
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Depends on if he wants to be the point of emphasis on a team or ride the bench. I think this whole game he is playing with Inter is just building his resolve to leave for just about anywhere that will stroke his fragile ego.
 
Counterfactual said:
Is this the same Lukaku we're talking about?
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I mean I have seen nothing to suggest he's going to be a cancer in the dressing room. But in the event he does become one, I'm a super petty guy, I'd let him rot in the reserves for 4 years
 
Lukaku and Inter are trying to make fools of us.
The only reasonable way out for all parties is a deal with a player swap.
Barella, Bastoni, or Skriniar for Lukaku.

Inter says they have no money, a free loan after we gave them 100 million is unacceptable, Chelsea already assumes failure and has a strong card in their hands.

Lukaku wants to play in the World Cup.
And staying all season on the bench or playing with the reserves will not be pleasant.

We have to be tough enough with these characters and don't hire anyone else with this kind of profile.
 
non profit football said:
Lukaku and Inter are trying to make fools of us.
The only reasonable way out for all parties is a deal with a player swap.
Barella, Bastoni, or Skriniar for Lukaku.

Inter says they have no money, a free loan after we gave them 100 million is unacceptable, Chelsea already assumes failure and has a strong card in their hands.

Lukaku wants to play in the World Cup.
And staying all season on the bench or playing with the reserves will not be pleasant.

We have to be tough enough with these characters and don't hire anyone else with this kind of profile.
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You didn’t give them 100m. You bought an asset you thought was worth 100m
 
Back to Inter on a 4 year loan deal with an optional purchase of 10m after 4 years, no upfront fee, Chelsea to pay all his wages and supply all the bedding and oats.
 
non profit football said:
Lukaku and Inter are trying to make fools of us.
The only reasonable way out for all parties is a deal with a player swap.
Barella, Bastoni, or Skriniar for Lukaku.

Inter says they have no money, a free loan after we gave them 100 million is unacceptable, Chelsea already assumes failure and has a strong card in their hands.

Lukaku wants to play in the World Cup.
And staying all season on the bench or playing with the reserves will not be pleasant.

We have to be tough enough with these characters and don't hire anyone else with this kind of profile.
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You didn't give them £100m, you gave them a lump sum last year and will continue to give them further lump sums over the next 4 years until the £100m is paid off. However, if I were making the decisions at Chelsea, I'd send him back to Inter for half what you gave them last season and get his wages off the books, as well as making it public how much of a twat he is behind the scenes.
 
I‘m actually not that worried about this situation. As mentioned above, he has a World Cup coming up and will want to be in the best shape and form he can be in so he can start for Belgium who will have strong ambitions to win the whole thing. He’s surely not going to let himself get fat and in woeful form in the lead up to that if he’s “forced” to stay at Chelsea.

Even Lukaku in shit form was our highest scorer in all comps last season. So if we have to keep him next season and he scores a decent amount off the bench and the odd start here and there that’s not bad.

Really the biggest pain may be how us not moving him could damage our incoming business.
 
Orc said:
I‘m actually not that worried about this situation. As mentioned above, he has a World Cup coming up and will want to be in the best shape and form he can be in so he can start for Belgium who will have strong ambitions to win the whole thing. He’s surely not going to let himself get fat and in woeful form in the lead up to that if he’s “forced” to stay at Chelsea.

Even Lukaku in shit form was our highest scorer in all comps last season. So if we have to keep him next season and he scores a decent amount off the bench and the odd start here and there that’s not bad.

Really the biggest pain may be how us not moving him could damage our incoming business.
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Have you considered looking at what he did during the last world cup when he was at United? You're going to be pretty disappointed with the result
 
crossy1686 said:
You didn't give them £100m, you gave them a lump sum last year and will continue to give them further lump sums over the next 4 years until the £100m is paid off.
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Inter got 22 M last year from Chelsea, and they are getting the rest from a factoring company. They had to do that, otherwise they could have failed to pay wages on time this season. To imagine Inter investing 60M on a 30-year old forward in this economy is just science fiction.

Chelsea now owes the rest of the money to that factoring company.
 
Pintu said:
Inter got 22 M last year from Chelsea, and they are getting the rest from a factoring company. They had to do that, otherwise they could have failed to pay wages on time this season. To imagine Inter investing 60M on a 30-year old forward in this economy is just science fiction.

Chelsea now owes the rest of the money to that factoring company.
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I somehow think those payments won't go through and he'll return to Inter for next to nothing, or they'll do some creative accounting like when Barcelona and Juventus swapped Arthur for Pjanic
 
Orc said:
Even Lukaku in shit form was our highest scorer in all comps last season. So if we have to keep him next season and he scores a decent amount off the bench and the odd start here and there that’s not bad.
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Shouldn’t this part worry you more than anything else? You desperately needed Haaland, but you’re stuck with Werner and Lukaku.
 
Pintu said:
Shouldn’t this part worry you more than anything else? You desperately needed Haaland, but you’re stuck with Werner and Lukaku.
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Needs context. He statpadded with goals vs Chesterfield, Middlesbrough, Luton, Al Hilal and Palmeiras
 
Pintu said:
Shouldn’t this part worry you more than anything else? You desperately needed Haaland, but you’re stuck with Werner and Lukaku.
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It does, but what I’m trying to say is that Lukaku isn’t a complete and total waste of a squad place even in poor form. He will always get you goals against shite teams which can be a valuable asset. It’s not one of those situations where a striker will go 20 matches without scoring a goal and is actively hurting the team.

But yes, we absolutely need a total refresh of our attack.
 
crossy1686 said:
I somehow think those payments won't go through and he'll return to Inter for next to nothing, or they'll do some creative accounting like when Barcelona and Juventus swapped Arthur for Pjanic
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That's only possible when you agree on a relative value. Barça and Juve agreed on the formula (Arthur = Pjanic + €16M). Only then could they add whatever they want to the price of both players. And it seemed fair at the time, as both wanted to part ways with these players (Juventus wanted rid of Pjanic's high wage and Barça had to sell Arthur who was refusing to extend).

In today's market, I can't see Inter and Chelsea agreeing on a similar operation. There is no player that meets both criteria. The only Inter players that Chelsea could be interested in are players essential to Inter, hence only sellable at very high prices... Chelsea doesn't want to exchange Lukaku for Alexis.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
What an odd personality this guy has. Very much glad he's no longer our problem.
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He’s a complete headcase and so is the person who thought it would be worth paying 100m to bring him back to the PL. No heart and no brain he needs to visit the wizard of oz or whoever it was that was giving them out.
 
Lukaku goes and Darwin Nunez signs is my bet

Even though id rather Rom stays
 
What a joke of a player. If ever there was a definition for fraud of a player, it would be Romelu Lukaku. He's expecting Chelsea to take a massive hit on his £100m fee after just 12 months??
 
Inter players don’t want to leave, Inter are trying to convince Bastioni to accept Tottenham

Bastioni to Tottenham is the key, with that money, 60 mln, they can offer something to Chelsea for the loan + signing Dybala for free and Bremer from Torino for 25/30 million

 
::sonny:: said:
Inter players don’t want to leave, Inter are trying to convince Bastioni to accept Tottenham

Bastioni to Tottenham is the key, with that money, 60 mln, they can offer something to Chelsea for the loan + signing Dybala for free and Bremer from Torino for 25/30 million

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+ This move other strikers: Chelsea will sign a replacement (Tammy Abraham? maybe best striker in Italy in this moment)
 
RedPed said:
What a joke of a player. If ever there was a definition for fraud of a player, it would be Romelu Lukaku. He's expecting Chelsea to take a massive hit on his £100m fee after just 12 months??
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Chelsea have already taken the hit. They signed a shite player with an even worse mentality for a ludicrous sum. Every man and his dog could see it was a bad idea.

Him stinking it up at Chelsea for another season or two isn't going to improve his market value.
 
Mb194dc said:
So we'll find an acceptable figure between 0 and £100m and go from there, possibly a loan with a fee, or he'll be made to rot in the reserves. Got a contract till 2026, no wonder changed agent!

Chances of him playing for us again look pretty slim if that is true.
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How about the MLS? He would find the raw athleticism beyond him but he’d be able to bully those defenses all day long.
 
Red Stone said:
Chelsea have already taken the hit. They signed a shite player with an even worse mentality for a ludicrous sum. Every man and his dog could see it was a bad idea.

Him stinking it up at Chelsea for another season or two isn't going to improve his market value.
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Yeah, they signed him at 28 yo, now 29 and you don’t have a resale value for players at that age, are money “lost”

Who decided to sign him is to blame, I don’t think it has been tuchel or abramovich
 
Has he bulked up massively again since he came back to England? Maybe he just like Fish and Chips and Lager too much.
 
Woodzy said:
Has he bulked up massively again since he came back to England? Maybe he just like Fish and Chips and Lager too much.
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With Conte had different diet, it’s strange that he didn’t understand nothing from the experience with Conte regarding the diet and not only.
 
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