Bakayoko went out on loan a year after a big money transfer to Chelsea didn't he?
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Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea
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Biggest mistake was selling Abraham and getting Lukaku in to fill his spot
It was yet another ridiculous negotiation by Ms. Marina.
If I'm not mistaken the club has only received 5 million euros so far, with the remaining 35 million to be paid on terms in later years, when the player has probably already been sold for a much higher amount.
"There's a reason clubs are paying these sums for him" was a line rolled out at one point by some here
That’s a dire position
Abraham wasn't good enough and Lukaku hasn't been either. Lukaku had a great record at Inter, serie A form means little.
Can't believe we'd loan him rather than sell, maybe an accounting reason for it. Hasn't fitted in and better get him out than let him stink up the dressing room.
Or maybe, just maybe, things aren't that binary.
Just because Lukaku was a poor transfer doesn't mean Abraham was the answer.
Was convinced he would stay another yr at least, but seems a return to Inter could actually happen.
You’re potentially losing a few players from the squad. Any concerns there?
Chelsea must be sick of him if they would accept to loan him and subsidized his wage.
I thought they would try a swap deal plus cash for Lautaro Martinez. Chelsea still need a CF, no?
I thought they would try a swap deal plus cash for Lautaro Martinez. Chelsea still need a CF, no?
I'd rather go with Kai and build around the sides like Liverpool did with Firmino. Maybe get an Giroud type to mix things up a bit when nessesesery.
Just looking at the top line and assuming it would fall into place is what got us stuck with Lukaku in the first place.
What is it with his ex teams that make them miss him and re sign him so many times? He probably has a big cock and those chants were correct, there is no other explanation.
What a post
I know Chelsea fan's were optimistic they were getting an elite striker in Lukaku last summer but I feel the Caf and United fans called these events unfolding back when he originally signed.
Inter wanting to sign him is logical decision, he had good record in Serie A and for Inter.
Its mental that they thought he would turn out good.
Its almost like they didn't watch him play for us all those years.
Yes
Also, just want to point out, that if a 29 year old player with 600+ games under his belt still hasn't figured out what weight he should be, and how to stay at that weight, then that is a fault of that player. I can't recall any other players weight gain and weight loss being discussed that much as it relates to his playstyle. We had Rooney and Anderson, but that was clearly just a lack of discipline - not bulking up in muscle and slimming down later.
Almost like buying a former youth product for a world record fee, getting nothing out of him for five years and then letting him go on a free back to the club from which he was purchased?
They didn't, obviously. It's super easy to point at United and say we're ruining players and we've appointed bad managers, and all someone like Lukaku need's is a Conte to manage him. The reality is we attract bad characters that need constant assurance and attention, Lukaku is no exception. I guess people always think they'll be the one's to get a tune out of the player, like when Rodgers signed Balotelli and then got sacked.
But playing 3 at the back, you're probably a bit more dependent on a top finisher in the middle than Liverpool is? You're way behind Liverpool and City in the amount and quality of scoring chances you create (xG of 69.3, whereas the other two are well into the 90s), which seems to me to be the weak point of Tuchel's system.
I'd say it was more true the other way when you had him we were warning many United fans he wasn't all that. Whenever I did I usually got either dogs abuse (by posters who now have the exact same opinion) or "yeah but Morata" (who I would take back in a deal with the devil yesterday if it was the only way of getting shot of Rom).
I mean ofcourse there was a section who brought into the unfinished business guff and some other who genuinely thought he was a good enough but the general reaction was lukewarm at best.
Strangely despite our attacking inconsistencys we've outscored 3 of our 5 title teams and they had guaranteed 20 goal a season players (Lampard or Costa) with a further 15 guaranteed from the secondary scorers (Drogba or Hazard). Also all our outfield even semi regulars bar Sarr scored at some point last season.
I'd say the most important thing is quality depth at the wingback positions. When James and Chilwell were fit and firing we had no problems scoring enough goals as a team.
I mean if Lewandowski suddenly becomes available for us then by all means we should go for it but i don't want us to sign a player we think would guarantee a certain amount of goals without looking into the bigger picture of how they fit the system.
Those title teams weren't competing against the City and Liverpool teams we see right now. Finishing aside, your team xG this year was roughly similar to Spurs', not much better than Arsenal's and much closer to ours than to the top two. This clearly suggests you have a significant gap to the top two that isn't about the quality of the finishing, but about the offense you generate as a team. Which, if that remains unchanged, means you can only compensate by outperforming your xG more than they do. Which should mean you're more in need of an elite scorer in the middle than they are. So if I were in your shoes, I'd worry if the plan was to rely more on team offence. But who knows, maybe it'll work.
Very true.
Not sure how reliable this guy is but this is an awful awful deal for Chelsea. Subsidising his wage for a year and even if Inter has obligation to buy they lost half of the money they paid for him after only one season.
The idea of recouping what we paid for Lukaku is an absurd fantasy. That's never going to happen. We either stick with him and hope that we get good value out of him on the pitch or we take a huge loss on him and get rid. Those are the two options.
If that's the case I will snap their hands off. We will happily accept the loss with him and move on instead of keeping him unhappy in dressing room may not be a wise move. If we get some 60mn back for him then that's more than good enough at present circumstances.
At least Pogba was actually decent!Almost like buying a former youth product for a world record fee, getting nothing out of him for five years and then letting him go on a free back to the club from which he was purchased?
Worst signing of the season in terms of expectation, value and what was delivered?
Got to be up there
Got to be up there
Probably. Grealish has delivered about the same relative to his price, but he wasn't meant to the missing piece of the puzzle like Lukaku.
In a vacuum, absolutely. But we still finished the season where we were expected to by anyone sane. We were never in a million years going to win the title over City or Liverpool and most people predicted us to finish 3rd. So really, Lukaku being horrendous didn’t actually harm our season much.
He was also still our highest goal scorer in all comps. So while he vastly underperformed what we expected he wasn’t a complete and total embarrassment stats wise like Werner was for example.
I don't think there's any question about that, unfortunately.
The hope was his goals would push us up to the same level as City and Liverpool in the league, in fact we still finished 19 points behind City, same as the year before. Guess you can say we'd have finished 2nd on goal difference with our points and goals this year put in last years table. Getting 94 points to overall City this year was never happening for us even if Lukaku scored 10-20 more goals. City scored 23 more goals than us and conceded 7 fewer...
So we can console ourselves than him being rubbish largely didn't really matter anyway in terms of our league position...
We'll probably sell him back to Inter for about half what we paid, so hard to argue against being a pretty bad signing all things considered. Interesting to see who the new owners identify to replace with their analytics or whatever. Need at least 94 points next season win the title or even more I think.
So we can console ourselves than him being rubbish largely didn't really matter anyway in terms of our league position...
We'll probably sell him back to Inter for about half what we paid, so hard to argue against being a pretty bad signing all things considered. Interesting to see who the new owners identify to replace with their analytics or whatever. Need at least 94 points next season win the title or even more I think.
Secret agent Lukaku has done his job.
"Go to Chelsea Rom, remember how you played at United? Do that, then we will bring you back at the end of the season for half what we sold you for"
"OK boss, gotcha, fat Rom incoming, see ya in 12 months"
"Go to Chelsea Rom, remember how you played at United? Do that, then we will bring you back at the end of the season for half what we sold you for"
"OK boss, gotcha, fat Rom incoming, see ya in 12 months"
Inter really want him back. Chelsea are supposedly trying to get them to agree to a £17m loan fee now and £60m obligation to buy in 2023.
A deal like that I would snap their hands off and forget this disaster ever happened
Edit: here comes Bayern. Lukaku is in demand. Love to see it.
A deal like that I would snap their hands off and forget this disaster ever happened
Edit: here comes Bayern. Lukaku is in demand. Love to see it.
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Bayern would be a decent move for him. I read this morning if Rom goes, Darwin Nunez could be on the way in. I rate Gabriel Jesus and he is available, I'd take him in a heartbeat, just as i would Sterling