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Love how his stepovers always end up in him backheeling it to himself. The Kak Turn.
This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for. How does no one working at a premier league team not figured out he clearly doesn’t play football?
he was a much much better player in Everton, its obvious the muscle bulk he made here and the wrong coaching and the bad system of a play has affected him.
wtf is our coaches giving him for training program?
He looks a little fat actually (not by a general guys standards). All the big guys in football like Ronaldo, Zlatan, Drogba were a lot more ripped than him.
for a targetman he can't time leaps worth shit really. fellaini is a better version of what he is supposed to be than Lukaku himself. For all his strength he loses duels and fails to hold the ball up because of how slow he is in anticipating meaning that his strength is neutralised to a large extent.
I marvel why we buy lead forwards whose bottom level is so bad. Remember Rooney. When he was off form he was horrid.
See,in the first vid he mostly has the right ideas but they just dont sync with his brick-feet
I dont like kicking a man who's already down but you just know when a player hasn't got the right stuff to play at a higher more pressured level.
Remember his top level ? And his general level. You can't question why we signed Rooney. He's one of the best players who ever played for us. And I'm not his biggest fan, always thought he was overrated re White Pele etc.
Again,he has the right idea but the execution is lacking.He uses his strength well,barely keeps the ball in play and then unleashes a non-accurate cross-field pass and Juve break,again.
Rooney could ping the ball to his team mate from 50 yards accurately and managed to miss an open goal a few minutes later. His bottom level was not only bad, it was also weird and when He started to mature and was no longer an explosive CF, He became worse. Really weird.
Lukaku is just as weird, his bottom level is that He becomes Slippy G in disguise whenever He needs to control the ball. It's like his legs were moving on their own and He had no control over them.
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Rooney could produce goals out of nothing, something Lukaku could only dream of. See City overhead kick, Or Newcastle 2005, he was generally terrible for those games
I actually feel sorry at this point. This is too bad.
Genuinely cracked me upI wouldn't even sell him but I can't believe this is our main number 9. Manchester United, bloody hell.
I think he's referring to past his peak Rooney. Some of Lukaku's recent body of work does remind of that Rooney's. But obviously Rooney was one of the greats over the course of his career. A special footballer.
I think the club needs to make a difficult choice with Lukaku. Last season one wouldn't have said the CF position was an issue but it is. We'll get but with Lukaku there as he will score goals. But we need someone else who offers more technical quality as an alternative.
Backheeling with his wrong foot, with the ball about to go out of play, what could go wrong... Those stepovers 
Tell me how with all our nutritionists, dietitians and sport scientists, is that allowed to happen? There is no way you're convincing me that is his optimal body weight/type.
wtf is our coaches giving him for training program?
No he meant form, as mentioned
It's baffling. Right he looks like a sprinter but football requires a different balance between strength/agility. I don't even understand what he's trying to accomplish by increasing his muscle mass like that.
Weird how he's got so big and slow, Memphis oddly bulked up too when he joined United, is it us?
Lukaku needs a long time to sort his physique out and that's if he started now, it doesn't even seem like he's working on getting fitter.
Lukaku needs a long time to sort his physique out and that's if he started now, it doesn't even seem like he's working on getting fitter.
Some very funny comments in this thread, which I won't add to.
We all know he lacks skill, can't pass, can't dribble, poor first touch, too big to be a footballer, slow, cumbersome, looks exhausted, etc.
We also know that last season, Miki was repeatedly played and given chances to play himself into form, by Jose. Eventually, Jose lost patience.
Do people think that Lukaku could suffer the same fate or that because he is one of Jose's soldiers, he will be spared?
Edit: another funny comment:
We all know he lacks skill, can't pass, can't dribble, poor first touch, too big to be a footballer, slow, cumbersome, looks exhausted, etc.
We also know that last season, Miki was repeatedly played and given chances to play himself into form, by Jose. Eventually, Jose lost patience.
Do people think that Lukaku could suffer the same fate or that because he is one of Jose's soldiers, he will be spared?
Edit: another funny comment:
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Instead of getting bigger, he should have practiced shooting, technique and dribbling instead.
He will be spared, Jose needs him for the long balls. Otherwise, he would have been dropped much earlier
I know it's sounds strange as he's only 25 years old, but I believe that because he's always been several years ahead of his age in terms of development that he's experiencing the same kind of drop off in form as you'd expect of someone in their early 30's, with his play style and reliance on power/pace. When he was 17 he had the physique of someone in their mid-20's, so it's no huge surprise that at 25 he now has the physique of someone much older.
Critics of Rooney were scoffed at when they could see he was significantly declining at only 27, they made comments about confidence and form being temporary and class being permanent. However it was a sharp and steady decline from there which proved to be absolutely to do with discipline, body type, age and play style. I can see exactly the same occurring now with Lukaku. My view is the second half of last season for Lukaku was very similar to the second half of 12/13 under Fergie. Comparing Lukaku now to Rooney when he started declining in Fergie's final season the difference in terms of matches played isn't as huge as you'd think.
Rooney senior matches played 2002 - 2012 = 515 total
Lukaku senior matches played 2009 - 2018 = 460 total
Both played a huge amount of matches at a young age and both have a body type that takes a lot of discipline to maintain. You then add into the mix that Lukaku has always been far more reliant on his physical attributes and less on technique and it's no wonder that his loss of pace, acceleration and stamina has had such a devastating effect on his performances. You can see the change in his body shape over the past 5 years, so it's no great surprise. When he joined Everton he was close to Drogba, when he left he was closer to Heskey and he's now closer to Lennox Lewis.
Of course he'll put in several really good performances over the course of a season, particularly against mediocre teams, as Rooney did 2013 - 2016. However the powerhouse that we saw a couple of years ago is in my opinion dead and buried. If we have any shred of financial competence we'll look to sell and recover as much as possible, as soon as possible. We're currently in the same position we were when Chelsea bid for Rooney; his stock and value are far greater than his ability. He'll be depreciating at £15m per year, whilst costing us another £10m in wages from now on.
Critics of Rooney were scoffed at when they could see he was significantly declining at only 27, they made comments about confidence and form being temporary and class being permanent. However it was a sharp and steady decline from there which proved to be absolutely to do with discipline, body type, age and play style. I can see exactly the same occurring now with Lukaku. My view is the second half of last season for Lukaku was very similar to the second half of 12/13 under Fergie. Comparing Lukaku now to Rooney when he started declining in Fergie's final season the difference in terms of matches played isn't as huge as you'd think.
Rooney senior matches played 2002 - 2012 = 515 total
Lukaku senior matches played 2009 - 2018 = 460 total
Both played a huge amount of matches at a young age and both have a body type that takes a lot of discipline to maintain. You then add into the mix that Lukaku has always been far more reliant on his physical attributes and less on technique and it's no wonder that his loss of pace, acceleration and stamina has had such a devastating effect on his performances. You can see the change in his body shape over the past 5 years, so it's no great surprise. When he joined Everton he was close to Drogba, when he left he was closer to Heskey and he's now closer to Lennox Lewis.
Of course he'll put in several really good performances over the course of a season, particularly against mediocre teams, as Rooney did 2013 - 2016. However the powerhouse that we saw a couple of years ago is in my opinion dead and buried. If we have any shred of financial competence we'll look to sell and recover as much as possible, as soon as possible. We're currently in the same position we were when Chelsea bid for Rooney; his stock and value are far greater than his ability. He'll be depreciating at £15m per year, whilst costing us another £10m in wages from now on.
He will be spared. Mkhi never kept on starting games regardless of performances, he was given chances but he was very often substituted and often not even played. Lukaku has a totem of immunity, he's here until the end
When you add weight (muscle/fat) to your body, in a sport where you have to run for 90 minutes (that's a lot), you will suffer.
The ideal physique for football is to be slim and athletic. For me, Vardy has the perfect physique for an EPL footballer, in 2018.
IMO, Lukaku is getting heavier (probably muscle) and it's making it difficult for him to run for sustained periods of time.
But's he utter shite at controlling them! This is what I don't get. Lukaku clearly doesn't have the technique to kill a long ball dead with his first touch, so it's pointless lumping it up to him.
I'd rather have Fellaini as the target man since the guy actually has beautiful chest control, can win headers and is actually physically imposing (if he doesn't elbow people).
GIven that we are desperate for points, I'd be quite happy to put Fellaini up top as the striker and have him bring down long balls and pass them to Rashford, Mata, Martial, Sanchez. At least this way, we completely bypass our midfield and get the ball straight to our attackers, who can then try and work their magic, to score the vital goals.
Right now, Lukaku is useless at everything (though I think he may still be able to cross the ball from the right).
Some very funny comments in this thread, which I won't add to.
We all know he lacks skill, can't pass, can't dribble, poor first touch, too big to be a footballer, slow, cumbersome, looks exhausted, etc.
We also know that last season, Miki was repeatedly played and given chances to play himself into form, by Jose. Eventually, Jose lost patience.
Do people think that Lukaku could suffer the same fate or that because he is one of Jose's soldiers, he will be spared?
Edit: another funny comment:
He’ll be spared IMO, but it won’t be anything to do with what he does on the pitch. Lukaku gives interviews about things not being the managers fault, he also talks a lot about hard work(even though on the field he is lazier then anyone else) which can then be used as a stick to beat other supposed “lazier” players with.
Joss will want to keep Lukaku on his side as Lukaku has an unwavering loyalty to him. No way he gets dropped.
So what? His bottom level was just as a bad as Lukaku's bottom level. Please don't even attempt to deny it....
No. CR7 bulked up and became unstoppable. De Gea bulked up and became top 3 in the world
Rooney also could produce a string of games of utter awfulness with no end in sight when in bad form. Even at his peak. It was always the one strange thing about him. He'd suddenly lose all ability to pass, dribble, shoot or control the ball, on top of running into cul de sacs and blind alleys and it never made sense.
This run of Lukaku is just a bad. What compounds it is he doesn't have the redeemer of having been legendary at his best for United like Rooney did, to fall back on
Badly needs a goal , how long has it been ?
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Rooney's worst performances came in midfield after losing his pace nearing 30 years old.
I don't even want to know what Lukaku would be like in midfield now, never mind when he's 30.
Not everyone needs to bulk up though. De Gea was like a stick when he came here and he's a goalkeeper. Lukaku had a more than powerful enough build to begin with.
I agree. I too hate the way he plays football but when he is so out of form/tired the manager should step in and try to protect him. Bring him on as a sub for 20 minutes so he is full of energy and can buzz around till the end of games. Or switch him to the right more often. When things are going so badly for him he must be losing confidence with every little thing he is doing wrong. This will continue to affect aspects of his game he is usually good at.
I'm probably of a similar opinion to you on Rooney, I often felt he was very average for large spells of seasons. He'd have 10 game spells that were nothing special but Ronaldo would take stick for being inconsistent and Rooney would be talked about as a week in week out 8/10 player.....but he was streets ahead of Lukaku in terms of ability and technique in his prime. No way Rooney would produce a lowlight reel like the ones earlier in this thread.
Also you can't question why we signed him....he was a brilliant signing. I'd kill for us signing an 18 year old Rooney right now.
Some people think its only this season he's been wank but he missed some real chances last season as well. They're not all sitters but it just goes to show he's never going to be the striker we need. Some of these games he scored in as well but only after missing some gilt edged chances. 16 PL goals is never good enough.
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